Powers & Abilities Future sight and Ryou are now obsolete
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The Ryou/AdCOA power up is lame for multiple reasons :
- visually it was always a nightmare : during the rooftop Luffy using AdCOA was visually always so confusing, we never really knew visually when he used it or not etc. It was already quite bad in that aspect.
- the explaination behind it : there are 2 stages of adCOA : the barrier and the deep one destroying the inside. Even just with the barrier you can hurt Kaido : Scabbards, Zoro etc. And we never really knew what stage Luffy used each time. During Udon training it seemed he mastered the last stage with internal destruction but frankly during the fight it was impossible to tell.
- the different ways to hurt Kaido : we learnt that that COA was mandatory to hurt Kaido, that it was a central tool to finally hurt him. But 2 seconds later : Killer, Kid, Law, Momo, Raizon etc etc all managed to hurt Kaido in different ways only using their power creatively. Law sending fucking rocks to Kaido managed to hurt him. Kid only with metal fist trying ti crush Kaido managed to hurt him etc etc etc etc.
- and the big fat last nail in the coffin : AdCOC. 2 second after Luffy first haki PU, he received an other haki PU, that trivialized the first big time. And above all Luffy using adCOC on screen made it look like he was using AdCOA internal destruction. What was the fucking difference between AdCOA internal destruction and adCOC ?? Impossible to tell on screen. Luffy was shown to send mid range punch to destroy the tree with AdCOA and then with adCOC he was doing the same..... Ok cool
AdCOA was a big fail overall
- visually it was always a nightmare : during the rooftop Luffy using AdCOA was visually always so confusing, we never really knew visually when he used it or not etc. It was already quite bad in that aspect.
- the explaination behind it : there are 2 stages of adCOA : the barrier and the deep one destroying the inside. Even just with the barrier you can hurt Kaido : Scabbards, Zoro etc. And we never really knew what stage Luffy used each time. During Udon training it seemed he mastered the last stage with internal destruction but frankly during the fight it was impossible to tell.
- the different ways to hurt Kaido : we learnt that that COA was mandatory to hurt Kaido, that it was a central tool to finally hurt him. But 2 seconds later : Killer, Kid, Law, Momo, Raizon etc etc all managed to hurt Kaido in different ways only using their power creatively. Law sending fucking rocks to Kaido managed to hurt him. Kid only with metal fist trying ti crush Kaido managed to hurt him etc etc etc etc.
- and the big fat last nail in the coffin : AdCOC. 2 second after Luffy first haki PU, he received an other haki PU, that trivialized the first big time. And above all Luffy using adCOC on screen made it look like he was using AdCOA internal destruction. What was the fucking difference between AdCOA internal destruction and adCOC ?? Impossible to tell on screen. Luffy was shown to send mid range punch to destroy the tree with AdCOA and then with adCOC he was doing the same..... Ok cool
AdCOA was a big fail overall
they arent obselete
awakening without training in the prev most particularly ryou and adv coc
would fail to damage kaido significantly .
luffy will incorporate all he has learned and add it to the awakening to make it even more cracked.
it also important to note that not everyone has cracked devil fruits .
oden, roger , rayleigh garp etc held their own at the top without fancy devil fruits or awakenings
the information we got on ryou , advanced conquerors , future sight etc gave us the chance to get a glimpse of how it was possible to.
awakening without training in the prev most particularly ryou and adv coc
would fail to damage kaido significantly .
luffy will incorporate all he has learned and add it to the awakening to make it even more cracked.
it also important to note that not everyone has cracked devil fruits .
oden, roger , rayleigh garp etc held their own at the top without fancy devil fruits or awakenings
the information we got on ryou , advanced conquerors , future sight etc gave us the chance to get a glimpse of how it was possible to.
Imo ryou is like a necessary step to knowing how to coat attacks w CoC (the flowing haki and barrier aspect not the internal destruction). Could explain why Zoro, as an armament specialist, can immediately pick CoC coating up while Kid, someone that’s had CoC for way longer, hasn’t got it still. FS idk tbh I think he just needs to write it in the fights more, I feel like he just wanted to create a higher level of observation and something to make fights more interesting but he’s barely using it. Internal destruction is the skill I don’t like because you can’t tell which character has it unless it’s explicitly stated, almost like he only really put it in so Luffy can free Yamato because I can’t even feel Luffy using it in battle.
Both abilities are op and a mean to fight df abilities.
Both were introduced by RHM/YC1 (Rayligth and katakuri ) and both will be relevant and important in upcoming arcs BUT from people in YC1 or even YC2 category.
From this point and onwards top tiers will play with everything (adv CoC, adv CoA, adv CoO, awakening and other super abilities) so we shouldn't expect to see Luffy have a fight like katakuri, he is moved on from that level.
I don't understand how adv CoA become irrelevant, people need to reread wano, it is as important as FS and in pure 1vs1 it is even more so.
Both were introduced by RHM/YC1 (Rayligth and katakuri ) and both will be relevant and important in upcoming arcs BUT from people in YC1 or even YC2 category.
From this point and onwards top tiers will play with everything (adv CoC, adv CoA, adv CoO, awakening and other super abilities) so we shouldn't expect to see Luffy have a fight like katakuri, he is moved on from that level.
I don't understand how adv CoA become irrelevant, people need to reread wano, it is as important as FS and in pure 1vs1 it is even more so.
