Future Events Gaban having a child will be his downfall

#21
The same Momo who stood up to Kaido and the others and almost got executed for it? The same Momo who went up and bit Kaido and dragged Onigashima as much as he could away from the capital? The same Momo who went up and fought Green Bull, an Admiral? Despite how clearly out of his league he was, despite having a fully grown version of Kaido's fruit and an adult body now?

That is cowardice? I...uh....I'm actually speechless here. I can't reason with this at all.

He's 8 years old too. He doesn't even have the bonus of being giant sized and thus enhanced strength like Colon has compared to humans, Momo is just an ordinary kid and doesn't have his fathers freakish Herculean strength and overconfidence too. He's been struggling to live in the legacy of such an immense legend, Ace had that problem too and so do others.

Its not like his parents were brutally murdered or anything right too? His father was BOILED to death in oil and killed by 2 extremely oppressive and unstoppable tyrants who have ruled over the country for 20 years without any remote chance of being stopped and taken down, after killing his parents?

The CHILD was TRAUMATISED and we saw evidence of that when he first appeared and how he behaved and had that actual traumatic flashback to Kaido taunting him.

This "coward" went face to face with the STRONGEST threat in the current story so far and literal biggest by far and stared him in the face, despite how terrified he was:



This was after he bit him on Luffy's insistence and thus provoking and challenging Kaido directly and going on a suicide mission here. It was a damn near miracle that Kaido hasn't killed him up to this point.

He also saw Kaido "KILL" his adoptive father who has been lovingly taking care of him this whole time, since they fled to the future to escape Orochi and Kaido in the first place.











Even Kaido was shocked and grimaced by Momo's audacity, his BRAVERY here! A "coward" would never have PROUDLY and LOUDLY declared his own name and OPENLY TAUNTED Kaido and Orochi and all the Beast Pirates, enemy Samurai and whoever else like this, knowing they would LITERALLY KILL him for being Oden's son and disrespecting them like this, yet he still revealed himself, even though Kaido's own men said he should lie to protect himself!

If you guys genuinely think this is "cowardice" then I'm sorry, but you have something seriously wrong with you. No joke. Or and you genuinely don't understand the story or read it properly or and you don't know what actual bravery is. Fuck me.

I didn't want to reply as I knew I'd get pissed off, but I think it needs to be said. I'm so tired of such direspectful, ignortant Momo slander by delusional, overcompensating, faux macho keyboard warriors here.

Once again I will emphasise Momo is a CHILD, a mere CHILD! 8 years old! Deeply traumatised! The trauma is fresh as his wounds right now! Including Kanjuro beating him up to a pulp and him being put into a similar position of being crucified here too!

JFC guys. Sorry but I have to get it off my chest, Momo slander pisses me off too much too. "Real cowards" make fun of him and children in general, especially children getting literally tortured, beaten up, almost murdered and abused in general.


:crocusuh::lawsigh::Kata_Woah:


I totally heard this whilst reading this, amazing lmfao:


"The decision is thine own" goes so hard somehow.
Well he was a coward but his arc is about stopping being one. Though Momo isn't at all at fault for Oden dying, since he wasn't kidnapped anyway, it was just a trick
 
#22
I get where you're coming from, but i feel like Collun might serve as a boost for Gaban instead of a nerf.

Also, Collun is pretty ballsy, he jumped Luffy even knowing he is a Younko

Still, even if something happens to Gaban due to Collun, i don't think it will be a big deal like Momo was for Oden for example.
 
#23
The same Momo who stood up to Kaido and the others and almost got executed for it? The same Momo who went up and bit Kaido and dragged Onigashima as much as he could away from the capital? The same Momo who went up and fought Green Bull, an Admiral? Despite how clearly out of his league he was, despite having a fully grown version of Kaido's fruit and an adult body now?

That is cowardice? I...uh....I'm actually speechless here. I can't reason with this at all.

He's 8 years old too. He doesn't even have the bonus of being giant sized and thus enhanced strength like Colon has compared to humans, Momo is just an ordinary kid and doesn't have his fathers freakish Herculean strength and overconfidence too. He's been struggling to live in the legacy of such an immense legend, Ace had that problem too and so do others.

Its not like his parents were brutally murdered or anything right too? His father was BOILED to death in oil and killed by 2 extremely oppressive and unstoppable tyrants who have ruled over the country for 20 years without any remote chance of being stopped and taken down, after killing his parents?

The CHILD was TRAUMATISED and we saw evidence of that when he first appeared and how he behaved and had that actual traumatic flashback to Kaido taunting him.

This "coward" went face to face with the STRONGEST threat in the current story so far and literal biggest by far and stared him in the face, despite how terrified he was:



This was after he bit him on Luffy's insistence and thus provoking and challenging Kaido directly and going on a suicide mission here. It was a damn near miracle that Kaido hasn't killed him up to this point.

He also saw Kaido "KILL" his adoptive father who has been lovingly taking care of him this whole time, since they fled to the future to escape Orochi and Kaido in the first place.











Even Kaido was shocked and grimaced by Momo's audacity, his BRAVERY here! A "coward" would never have PROUDLY and LOUDLY declared his own name and OPENLY TAUNTED Kaido and Orochi and all the Beast Pirates, enemy Samurai and whoever else like this, knowing they would LITERALLY KILL him for being Oden's son and disrespecting them like this, yet he still revealed himself, even though Kaido's own men said he should lie to protect himself!

If you guys genuinely think this is "cowardice" then I'm sorry, but you have something seriously wrong with you. No joke. Or and you genuinely don't understand the story or read it properly or and you don't know what actual bravery is. Fuck me.

I didn't want to reply as I knew I'd get pissed off, but I think it needs to be said. I'm so tired of such direspectful, ignortant Momo slander by delusional, overcompensating, faux macho keyboard warriors here.

Once again I will emphasise Momo is a CHILD, a mere CHILD! 8 years old! Deeply traumatised! The trauma is fresh as his wounds right now! Including Kanjuro beating him up to a pulp and him being put into a similar position of being crucified here too!

JFC guys. Sorry but I have to get it off my chest, Momo slander pisses me off too much too. "Real cowards" make fun of him and children in general, especially children getting literally tortured, beaten up, almost murdered and abused in general.


:crocusuh::lawsigh::Kata_Woah:


I totally heard this whilst reading this, amazing lmfao:


"The decision is thine own" goes so hard somehow.
The definition of bravery is pretty much just overcoming your fear even if you are terrified (as opposed to not being afraid to begin with) so yeah Momo is super brave.
 

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#24
Well he was a coward but his arc is about stopping being one. Though Momo isn't at all at fault for Oden dying, since he wasn't kidnapped anyway, it was just a trick
Missed my point about calling a child, a coward. You guys are something else. I'm trying to avoid resorting to petty insults but it's getting more tempting. I'm not saying anymore on this ridiculous topic as I really will snap. I'm wasting my words here as I thought.

:pepeanger::tchpepe:

The definition of bravery is pretty much just overcoming your fear even if you are terrified (as opposed to not being afraid to begin with) so yeah Momo is super brave.
Exactly what I wanted to say too. I was gonna say that little but I thought that would go over their heads ironically and not be enough.

:goyea::ronalugh:


Calling an 8 year old, a mere child a coward. This is some of the absolute lowest I've ever seen this forum go. Its coming off as sociopathic even.
 
#25
Ray not coming to MF to save ace was a L for him.
I'm genuinely believe Roger never even say anything about his soon to be son to Ray, because we see Roger leave him and the ship with Gaban and others. I believe Roger and Rouge had "you know what it is" after leaving them.

Hell even Shanks knew Ace was Roger son when Ace himself met him, and despite all that Shanks didn't even say anything to Ray or Gaban about Ace cuz he only talk about Luffy. Shanks could even say something about him before Ace got defeated by BB lol
 
#27
Missed my point about calling a child, a coward. You guys are something else. I'm trying to avoid resorting to petty insults but it's getting more tempting. I'm not saying anymore on this ridiculous topic as I really will snap. I'm wasting my words here as I thought.

:pepeanger::tchpepe:



Exactly what I wanted to say too. I was gonna say that little but I thought that would go over their heads ironically and not be enough.

:goyea::ronalugh:


Calling an 8 year old, a mere child a coward. This is some of the absolute lowest I've ever seen this forum go. Its coming off as sociopathic even.
Idk why you're taking it so seriously, the entire point of his arc is that he starts out being scared of standing up for himself until by the end where he does stand up to Kaido/GB etc. It's not like anyone is saying they would be different if they were a traumatized kid, it's simply just descriptive
 
#29
I'm genuinely believe Roger never even say anything about his soon to be son to Ray, because we see Roger leave him and the ship with Gaban and others. I believe Roger and Rouge had "you know what it is" after leaving them.

Hell even Shanks knew Ace was Roger son when Ace himself met him, and despite all that Shanks didn't even say anything to Ray or Gaban about Ace cuz he only talk about Luffy. Shanks could even say something about him before Ace got defeated by BB lol
Sabody is close to MF. When Sengoku declared ace was Roger's son , ray could have travelled to MF imo.
 
#31
Rayleigh is messed up, I think Shakky mentioned he had disappeared for months before the Sabody arc or something, My man enjoys getting enslaved
 
#36
The same Momo who stood up to Kaido and the others and almost got executed for it? The same Momo who went up and bit Kaido and dragged Onigashima as much as he could away from the capital? The same Momo who went up and fought Green Bull, an Admiral? Despite how clearly out of his league he was, despite having a fully grown version of Kaido's fruit and an adult body now?

That is cowardice? I...uh....I'm actually speechless here. I can't reason with this at all.

He's 8 years old too. He doesn't even have the bonus of being giant sized and thus enhanced strength like Colon has compared to humans, Momo is just an ordinary kid and doesn't have his fathers freakish Herculean strength and overconfidence too. He's been struggling to live in the legacy of such an immense legend, Ace had that problem too and so do others.

Its not like his parents were brutally murdered or anything right too? His father was BOILED to death in oil and killed by 2 extremely oppressive and unstoppable tyrants who have ruled over the country for 20 years without any remote chance of being stopped and taken down, after killing his parents?

The CHILD was TRAUMATISED and we saw evidence of that when he first appeared and how he behaved and had that actual traumatic flashback to Kaido taunting him.

This "coward" went face to face with the STRONGEST threat in the current story so far and literal biggest by far and stared him in the face, despite how terrified he was:



This was after he bit him on Luffy's insistence and thus provoking and challenging Kaido directly and going on a suicide mission here. It was a damn near miracle that Kaido hasn't killed him up to this point.

He also saw Kaido "KILL" his adoptive father who has been lovingly taking care of him this whole time, since they fled to the future to escape Orochi and Kaido in the first place.











Even Kaido was shocked and grimaced by Momo's audacity, his BRAVERY here! A "coward" would never have PROUDLY and LOUDLY declared his own name and OPENLY TAUNTED Kaido and Orochi and all the Beast Pirates, enemy Samurai and whoever else like this, knowing they would LITERALLY KILL him for being Oden's son and disrespecting them like this, yet he still revealed himself, even though Kaido's own men said he should lie to protect himself!

If you guys genuinely think this is "cowardice" then I'm sorry, but you have something seriously wrong with you. No joke. Or and you genuinely don't understand the story or read it properly or and you don't know what actual bravery is. Fuck me.

I didn't want to reply as I knew I'd get pissed off, but I think it needs to be said. I'm so tired of such direspectful, ignortant Momo slander by delusional, overcompensating, faux macho keyboard warriors here.

Once again I will emphasise Momo is a CHILD, a mere CHILD! 8 years old! Deeply traumatised! The trauma is fresh as his wounds right now! Including Kanjuro beating him up to a pulp and him being put into a similar position of being crucified here too!

JFC guys. Sorry but I have to get it off my chest, Momo slander pisses me off too much too. "Real cowards" make fun of him and children in general, especially children getting literally tortured, beaten up, almost murdered and abused in general.


:crocusuh::lawsigh::Kata_Woah:


I totally heard this whilst reading this, amazing lmfao:


"The decision is thine own" goes so hard somehow.
Dude I get why Momo was a coward but he indeed was. In some ways he was the total opposite of his father, he's also way more clever than him. The trauma did a great impact on his selfdepiction and I totally respect him as a character, but he was a coward the same way Colon is delusional about his strength which turns him into someone too courageous. Colon needs to be humbled but I would like Oda not to use him as excuse for Gaban's downfall (hostage piece again?)
 
#37
Missed my point about calling a child, a coward. You guys are something else. I'm trying to avoid resorting to petty insults but it's getting more tempting. I'm not saying anymore on this ridiculous topic as I really will snap. I'm wasting my words here as I thought.

:pepeanger::tchpepe:



Exactly what I wanted to say too. I was gonna say that little but I thought that would go over their heads ironically and not be enough.

:goyea::ronalugh:


Calling an 8 year old, a mere child a coward. This is some of the absolute lowest I've ever seen this forum go. Its coming off as sociopathic even.
At the risk of being optimistic, I think people calling him "coward" or saying he had "less balls" is more of a thoughtless remark or a miswording than anything else.

I'd be surprised if anyone here genuinely thought Momo was less of a person for being scared in the nightmarish circumstances he was in.

I gotcha about the irony part.

Also do you know Momo's the third pink character I've seen who's had to go through a journey of facing fear and overcoming it? First two were Courage the Cowardly Dog and Bocchi the Rock.

I guess Majin Buu might also count, specifically Fat Buu trying to beat Kid Buu.

I know that pink is the "calming colour" so maybe that's why.
 
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