Current Events Garp might be a MASSIVE Fraud Ngl

[ShishioIsBack]

Signs were always there for example he literally had to train to beat Don Chinjao when he is in his Prime.
And his dialogues implies that he probably tried before and he couldn't do so he had to be better this time

And then equaling Aokiji in contest of fists

But this chapter reveals what I always thought.
Garp was portrayed as Rayleigh's Bitch in his old age, his presentation was no where near Rayleigh's and now we learn that Garp was fighting version of Roger who was so young he didn't even have a mustache and their "clash" is one of the most underwhelming clashes ever

Forget that lack of sky split which is status quo for a Yonko level clash but these conqueror's Haki sparks are so pathetic they make Yamato vs Kaido look legendary in comparison

Look at Roger's Actual Equal where Roger has Full Mustache
Looks like in his late 30s
Probably close to if not actually in his prime

The whole terrain was impacted by their clash

You can't tell me Garp doesn't looks like a fucking joke right here?

And if you think Garp equaling in attack power with Rookie Roger means they are forever equals then you guys have to apply same logic to Luffy and Zoro as well

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Any thoughts??

 

[MonsterKaido]

This is younger Roger and garp and they exchanged attacks than splitting.

But I think Mihawk , Shanks , Kaido all are close to PK tier of PK themselves.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

This is younger Roger and garp and they exchanged attacks than splitting.

But I think Mihawk , Shanks , Kaido all are close to PK tier of PK themselves.

I know but how do we know this scales to their prime selves as well?
I guess it does but hypocrisy to think Shanks was not in his prime when he fought Mihawk in his 30s or late 20s but rookie Garp and Roger clashing = they are equals.

Anyways if Oda draws clashes like this at some point, he probably scales to their prime as well.
If Oda were to draw Luffy vs Zoro their fight won't go much different than Whiskey Peak fight, only difference would be huge attacks, sky splits etc.

 

[Impact]

Lol.... Maybe you shouldn't have crazy expectations built on fantasies over years anymore and this won't happen to you.

This is normal to me, but to you this is somehow Oda "literally" shitting all over his fan and his story.

 

[kekaro]

what is blud waffling about

 

[Cruxroux]

And then equaling Aokiji in contest of fists

Funny part being
Old garp , who's injured , no named attack , just CoA.
Matches
Aokiji probably in the prime , Named attack + Devil fruit Powers, CoA.
And yet got ragdolled.

Just how weak are C3 Admirals.

 

[Juanpiz]

what is blud waffling about

Blabla Fraud Blabla skysplit

 

[Dragon777]

not only now 30-40 YO Roger isn't enough, but even narrator statement aren't.

Literally "spoken of in legends", but hey.

P.S.

That wasn't even a clash, as already said in Garp vs Aokiji.

 

[Cruxroux]

not only now 30-40 YO Roger isn't enough, but even narrator statement aren't.

Literally "spoken of in legends", but hey.

Never bring up whitebeard to hype Admirals because he wasn't used on the same line of action.

 

[Dragon777]

Never bring up whitebeard to hype Admirals because he wasn't used on the same line of action.

Spoiler

I have WB above Roger because he has the title when Roger was alive. Obv. by a very small margin.

 

[Cruxroux]

Spoiler

I have WB above Roger because he has the title when Roger was alive. Obv. by a very small margin.

So narrator Rocks , Roger , Garp is irrelevant?

The way I see it. They are only talking about factions here. Rocks pirates. ROGER Pirates and marines.

WB was under Rocks , and Ray was under Roger.

But both were equally legends as mentioned names.

 

[Dragon777]

So narrator Rocks , Roger , Garp is irrelevant?

The way I see it. They are only talking about factions here. Rocks pirates. ROGER Pirates and marines.

WB was under Rocks , and Ray was under Roger.

But both were equally legends as mentioned names.

Imho It's Just Oda giving "spotlight focus" depending on the context.

We had plenty of focus for WB in the pre TS and during Oden's FB.
Now we have Garp as the Hero of GV, Roger and Xebec and so he Is giving It to them.

It could be faction too, but the root of It Is Oda giving praise when he thinks is needed. Before was WB, not it's Garp and Rocks.

 

[Killerj]

He is literally top 3 of his era alongside Roger and Xebec

 

[a_fan]

That’s why he refused to fight Rocks until Kong mentioned Roger.

Fighting his rival is easier than someone who killed an admiral then clashed evenly with a Yonko level next minute.

 

[Lor D. Coast]

Forget that lack of sky split which is status quo for a Yonko level clash but these conqueror's Haki sparks are so pathetic they make Yamato vs Kaido look legendary in comparison

I'm not going to defend either of them but...

They didn't clash, they tagged each other with their named named moves and if look at the panel with the kuja's ship you can see the haki lightning in the sky but you can't see any other ship in the horizon.

 

[ZenZu]

This chapter de legitimized any fraud claims for Garp, I was one of them who was skeptical about Garp due to things like struggling and training for Chinjao. But that is irrelevant now, it just means Chinjao's drill was that powerful.

We just got confirmation that Roger and Garp using AdCoC and AdCoA were near the beginning of their long careers together. So even the weakest versions of themselves that were going at it were top tiers, it's only up from here. Garp and Roger were as legit of contemporaries as they come, heck I'm starting to question WB more than Garp atm. That narrator box placing Garp, Roger, and Xebec together is massive.

I'm still expecting Roger to edge out a bigger piece of the pie in GV...but as for Garp being a fraud...It's over.

 

[Monet]

This chapter de legitimized any fraud claims for Garp, I was one of them who was skeptical about Garp due to things like struggling and training for Chinjao. But that is irrelevant now, it just means Chinjao's drill was that powerful.

We just got confirmation that Roger and Garp using AdCoC and AdCoA were near the beginning of their long careers together. So even the weakest versions of themselves that were going at it were top tiers, it's only up from here. Garp and Roger were as legit of contemporaries as they come, heck I'm starting to question WB more than Garp atm. That narrator box placing Garp, Roger, and Xebec together is massive.

I'm still expecting Roger to edge out a bigger piece of the pie in GV...but as for Garp being a fraud...It's over.

Same for mihawk the time will come when he have to show what hae has but fans are don't have patience.
...

 

[kekaro]

This chapter de legitimized any fraud claims for Garp, I was one of them who was skeptical about Garp due to things like struggling and training for Chinjao. But that is irrelevant now, it just means Chinjao's drill was that powerful.

We just got confirmation that Roger and Garp using AdCoC and AdCoA were near the beginning of their long careers together. So even the weakest versions of themselves that were going at it were top tiers, it's only up from here. Garp and Roger were as legit of contemporaries as they come, heck I'm starting to question WB more than Garp atm. That narrator box placing Garp, Roger, and Xebec together is massive.

I'm still expecting Roger to edge out a bigger piece of the pie in GV...but as for Garp being a fraud...It's over.

My face when the author of the manga that preaches since years ago Roger and Garp were at each other throat at every oppurtinity are equals:
I thought you waking up from zoros bros gaslighting thought you author intent > headcanon

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Mustache scaling

 

[soupongo]

That’s why he refused to fight Rocks until Kong mentioned Roger.

Fighting his rival is easier than someone who killed an admiral then clashed evenly with a Yonko level next minute.

Kong didn´t even mention Rocks?