Episode Discussion GATE OF THE SUN
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Renji can't beat Ishida
ishida up til TYBW was always no moe than LT/3rd Seat, now TYBW this 4 eyed neek had the biggest no training power creep that put him above squad zero...
thats like saying franky is now above admirals.
The Uryu jump in power is crazy i agree, but for now he fought Shikai Ichigo who was holding back, Renji who is strong sure but NOT among the strongest, and Senjumaru but Antithesis + him resonating with Yhwach carried him
So it's fine for now, Uryuu is about to get humbled by JuGOAT later
So it's fine for now, Uryuu is about to get humbled by JuGOAT later
Balance > Antitheses
That is not true. Uryu did more against Szayellaporo than Renji did, and Espadas are captain-level. Uryu also beat Mayuri who is a captain in SS arc, even though he used a special device. Now in TYBW, Sklaverei and vollstandig basically allow him to do the same shit, but better. He also has blut to help with offence and defense.
Uryu is HIM. Put some respect on his name.
Uryu is HIM. Put some respect on his name.
they both lost and Szayell wasnt even taking them serious he 1v4 and low diffed them all while renji and ishida were working together ..... lol Mayuri then had to come and low diff him, this was not plout driven and showed the real gap between captain level and LT and below... next.
once again plot driven but Uryu had to use a forbidden technique then trade his Qunicy powers "permanently" for a temporary power boost which was equivalent or higher to raw power from Vollstandig, yet even then Mayuri admitted himself he was caught off guard by something he has never seen before while also admitting he isnt a real combatant so Uryu gaining temporary physical strength to beat mayuri was the only actual logic way to beat a captain moreso Mayuri cause if he faced any other captain he was finshed, and in the end uryu was left fatally poisoned and saved my nemu meanwhile mayuri left with his head and was fine, which is what uryu went for.
powers not his given to him by Ywach and are comletely plot driven... once again that shouldnt give him that huge of a power creep to surpass squad zero or even fully realize renji, at best they should be equals on the lower end of captain.
once again plot driven but Uryu had to use a forbidden technique then trade his Qunicy powers "permanently" for a temporary power boost which was equivalent or higher to raw power from Vollstandig, yet even then Mayuri admitted himself he was caught off guard by something he has never seen before while also admitting he isnt a real combatant so Uryu gaining temporary physical strength to beat mayuri was the only actual logic way to beat a captain moreso Mayuri cause if he faced any other captain he was finshed, and in the end uryu was left fatally poisoned and saved my nemu meanwhile mayuri left with his head and was fine, which is what uryu went for.
powers not his given to him by Ywach and are comletely plot driven... once again that shouldnt give him that huge of a power creep to surpass squad zero or even fully realize renji, at best they should be equals on the lower end of captain.
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Uryu still did better than Renji at that point. Mayuri came in later with prep time and a counter to Szayel's powers.
A captain is a captain, they need to be able to show that they are able to at least be a certain strength or quality to attain that position. Whether he got a temporary boost or not, he still won. You can call it plot driven, but that would be for all the powers shown later on.
Blut and Sklaverei are natural quincy techniques, he had his schrift before Yhwach, but never unlocked it. He wasn't given these powers, he only had them unlocked.
The only thing he was given were amps from aushwalen which did help him get stronger.
Renji getting a "real" bankai can also be argued to be a plot-driven power since he was always taking L's most of the series.
Renji:
Lost to Byakuya
Lost to Szayellaporo
Lost to As Nodt (small confrontation)
A captain is a captain, they need to be able to show that they are able to at least be a certain strength or quality to attain that position. Whether he got a temporary boost or not, he still won. You can call it plot driven, but that would be for all the powers shown later on.
Blut and Sklaverei are natural quincy techniques, he had his schrift before Yhwach, but never unlocked it. He wasn't given these powers, he only had them unlocked.
The only thing he was given were amps from aushwalen which did help him get stronger.
Renji getting a "real" bankai can also be argued to be a plot-driven power since he was always taking L's most of the series.
Renji:
Lost to Byakuya
Lost to Szayellaporo
Lost to As Nodt (small confrontation)
define better?
& mayuri did showcase that in sheer reiatsu where Uryu realized he was significantly weaker and couldnt beat him then found out mayuri was partially responsible for his grandfather and quincy purge which then went onto release once again a forbidden ancient weapon/technique that once use you lose all of your own powers following, Uryu had to pour out power, speed and strength that wasnt his and put everything into getting one phyiscal alt that bypassed hisghogijizou and was what beat mayuri, physical power which we all know he is possibly one of the phyiscally weakest captains. & no one actually won that fight, like i said Mayuri was fine after the blast with a hole in his chest due to his own abilities and was fine shortly after Uryu was left for dead after being fatally poisoned and nemu just randomly gave him the antidote... up until lets was released he was outclassed in every aspect..
not really cause uryu never had a "captain"-liek showing following that, HM was evident and proof that eveb after new found powers and training from his father that he was still just ats best LT level. this is a much stronger version than the one that fought mayuri on SS. why do you think it was that uryu didnt run into any other captain than being faced with the physically weakest on SS?
cause he wouldve lost by sheer physical force and unlike mayuri none of the other captains wouldve toyed around and antagonized him.
yet they are all only awakened through Ywach and the schrift isnt assured it is what ywach deems is right for each character.
not really renji was constantly in a battle with his own bankai this goes back to SS against Byakuya.
So Renji only lost to characters that were actaully stronger than him and he didnt win absed off of plot driven storylines thanks for confirming this for us.
uryu us trash
& mayuri did showcase that in sheer reiatsu where Uryu realized he was significantly weaker and couldnt beat him then found out mayuri was partially responsible for his grandfather and quincy purge which then went onto release once again a forbidden ancient weapon/technique that once use you lose all of your own powers following, Uryu had to pour out power, speed and strength that wasnt his and put everything into getting one phyiscal alt that bypassed hisghogijizou and was what beat mayuri, physical power which we all know he is possibly one of the phyiscally weakest captains. & no one actually won that fight, like i said Mayuri was fine after the blast with a hole in his chest due to his own abilities and was fine shortly after Uryu was left for dead after being fatally poisoned and nemu just randomly gave him the antidote... up until lets was released he was outclassed in every aspect..
not really cause uryu never had a "captain"-liek showing following that, HM was evident and proof that eveb after new found powers and training from his father that he was still just ats best LT level. this is a much stronger version than the one that fought mayuri on SS. why do you think it was that uryu didnt run into any other captain than being faced with the physically weakest on SS?
cause he wouldve lost by sheer physical force and unlike mayuri none of the other captains wouldve toyed around and antagonized him.
yet they are all only awakened through Ywach and the schrift isnt assured it is what ywach deems is right for each character.
not really renji was constantly in a battle with his own bankai this goes back to SS against Byakuya.
So Renji only lost to characters that were actaully stronger than him and he didnt win absed off of plot driven storylines thanks for confirming this for us.
uryu us trash