Agreed. Why is 'transphobia' as a term a thing?

People across the course human history has abhorred deviation.
We don't agree with pedos.
We don't agree with murderers.
Heck, people rarely put up with the ugly or those who suffer from dwarfism.
But Transgender is a protected class despite it's deviation? Fuck off.
Why are you comparing being a dwarf or a transgender to being a literal criminal?
 
Why are you comparing being a dwarf or a transgender to being a literal criminal?
Ahem.
I knew this would come.
It is to highlight that deviation usually is villainised, for better or worse.
Nobody cares about people with dwarfism. In fact, I've seen many get mocked. But there is no moral panic or outrage or even demands that they should have the world cater to them.
Meanwhile, if I accidentally say: "Hey, thanks man," and I'm talking to a gender ideologue, I'm about to be run through the mill for an honest mistake.
There are people who want to integrate pedophillia into the sexual umbrella of identities even. Sure, it's a minority, but MAP-Pride is not a meme, it's a real thing, and it's disgusting.
 
As someone who was told by the NHS doctor I still see that the real statistic is roughly 30-40% who leave the service (detransition), we're not a minor minority. You can't talk about shit like this without the LGBTQIA+ community and lobbyists calling you a monster.
Yeah that's a lot higher from the reported 2-3%, you got a source? if not I don't believe it.

What makes you think I agree with the LGBT+ community on this? I think silencing anybody questioning trans issues is doing more harm than good. We should be able to talk about this, just like we talked about gay issues before it became more widely accepted
 
Yeah that's a lot higher from the reported 2-3%, you got a source? if not I don't believe it.

What makes you think I agree with the LGBT+ community on this? I think silencing anybody questioning trans issues is doing more harm than good. We should be able to talk about this, just like we talked about gay issues before it became more widely accepted
You don't need to believe it. But just check studies for "those who opt to not continue treatment." It's not mentioned, because it's a large group of people that delegitimizes this issue.

Try and find a truly unbiased study on it that wasn't formed off the back of queer theory.

Ultimately, for all those calling me bigoted, I am coming from this as someone who was harmed by this experimental process. The fact that people treat people like me as non-existent, is frustrating. Mostly, though, it's heart-rending because these 'open-minded' people tend to mock people like me to prop up their beloved trans 'victims'.

Logiko and buzzwords. Name a more iconic duo.
 
Can you answer my question please ?
Dude, you're literally someone who doesn't learn or want to learn anything outside of your narrow sphere of beliefs pointing a finger at everyone else as if they're the narrow-minded ones.

In all honesty, I used to think similarly to you in regards to transgender until I was harmed to the point of no return by a process you're championing.

Do you believe in the affirmative care process? One that says: "If you believe you're that way, you are."

If you do, then Transracial is real, yes?
 
Dude, you're literally someone who doesn't learn or want to learn anything outside of your narrow sphere of beliefs pointing a finger at everyone else as if they're the narrow-minded ones.
Sure, I'm the one narrow minded. :josad::milaugh:

If you do, then Transracial is real, yes?
No its no real :)
You can't be white and become black just as you can't be black and become white.
Trying to do it is just appropriating a culture that is not yours.

transgender until I was harmed to the point of no return by a process you're championing.
Using your own experience to deny an entire sociological group their right is not only not rationnal but offensive


you really didn't get what I said??
Stop avoiding my question and answer it please :)
 
You know, you experience doesn't prevent you from being a bigot, right ?
Sure, I'm the one narrow minded. :josad::milaugh:


No its no real :)
You can't be white and become white just as you can't be black and become white.
Trying to do it is just appropriating a culture that is not yours.


Using your own experience to deny an entire sociological group their right is not only not rationnal but offensive

I'm not a bigot because I would still jump in front of a car for a trans person if it was to help them in desperate need. I dislike the ideology, not the people. I hate the mindset of not questioning. I hate the fact that we don't consider other avenues of care. And I most certainly hate the lack of accountability from everybody who champions this and then passes off detrans individuals as 'statistics'.

You know, being an advocate doesn't make you any better of a person right? Our words are not as important as our actions. I would not EVER want to verbally or physically assault a trans person. Does it mean I agree with their identity? No. But I'll show them common respect and call them what they want to be called.

Just because someone disagrees, doesn't mean they want to genocide them.

As for transracialism, your point makes it clear. You cannot see the blatant similarities. Sex and Gender - Race and Culture.

My thoughts on cultural appropriation... well... my fucking word. Cultural appropriation? You real, bud? Cultural appreciation.

But I'm tired of it. So honestly, fuck off with the self-righteous bullshit. I thought you were actually a compassionate person, but it isn't that, is it? It's as if you try and use your views like a fucking bludgeon, a declaration that you're a good person. The words are hollow, Logiko, drivel that is repeated by Marxist scholars in and people in the universities that are so confident in being 'intellectually superior' that they're out of touch with the world, looking down on those they see as below.

I'm done. Just fucking done.
 
I answered you but you just didn't understand it

anything that's part of our psychology is a mental state

better?? or you still didn't get it??
So you think that being Cis or hetero is a mental state or not ? Do you consider them "part of our psychology ?"


I'm not a bigot because I would still jump in front of a car for a trans person if it was to help them in desperate need. I dislike the ideology, not the people. I hate the mindset of not questioning. I hate the fact that we don't consider other avenues of care. And I most certainly hate the lack of accountability from everybody who champions this and then passes off detrans individuals as 'statistics'.
Sure "I'm not a transphobe but I dislike the ideology" :few:


You know, being an advocate doesn't make you any better of a person right?
Indeed.



Lul, i see way more "anti-lgbtq"-Stuff talking than i ever hear LGBTQ-People talking.
Sadly..
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Maybe in here, but in every day life, LGBTQ is more than accepted, it's idolised.
Not at all.
 

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Maybe in here, but in every day life, LGBTQ is more than accepted, it's idolised.
Sorry, but thats nonsense. Believe it or not, but i live in "day life", work in a clinic, in a european capital. Lesbians, Gays, Trans etc. were still verbally and physically attacked, specially in the late hours. They still get weird views etc..
How can you say it is idolized? In what kind of bubble do you live?
 
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