Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

So it's in the B areas, Israelis don't live there, but you can drive through a road with an israeli car (not recommended) few months ago a father and son went to a car garage there and were murdered by Palestinians (those guys endangered their life to cheapen out on car maintenance).

Anyway, in the same city a pizza place posted this ad today:

That grandma is one of the abducted people
shortly after...
I think because it doesn't paint a good light some pics were removed now, but some israeli civilians went in to damage the pizza place, but they didnt do much
- IDF then went in and damaged the place:

- Israeli journalist says Netanyahu was involed 😂
- another pizza place did the same thing (the pic above is actually the 2nd pizza cause that pic was deleted or something)
-2nd pizza place (non damaged one) owners were arrested. Lol.
- pizza placed posted a facebook apology

yeah,i'm reading the news about it on MSN.I understand why some people might take it the wrong way lol

 

[Logiko]

Apologies could soften the population in general,but it certainly won't do a thing to Hamas.I think it actually might make them even more pissed.They might take it as mockery.

You forget that Hamas is a product of decennies of colonisation and oppression. Hamas is part of the population. They have fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, brothers and sisters. Their hatred is not ideological like the ideology of Daesh.

Therefore there are no reasons for the big group to stay afloat forever. Like I said, you will still have extremists that want the death of Israel as a whole but once the group sees their family happy again, they will chill out.

But that will be the job of Palestine to handle that group as a nation.

 

[NAMELESS]

You forget that Hamas is a product of decennies of colonisation and oppression. Hamas is part of the population. They have fathers, mothers, sons, daughters, brothers and sisters. Their hatred is not ideological like the ideology of Daesh.

Therefore there are no reasons for the big group to stay afloat forever. Like I said, you will still have extremists that want the death of Israel as a whole but once the group sees their family happy again, they will chill out.

But that will be the job of Palestine to handle that group as a nation.

There were other groups that wanted a more secular approach to this.Hamas is financed by others arab groups too.There is no defending what these guys want.You can't simply expect Israel to vanish of the map.

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@Logiko they have religious ideology as well,they don't want to surrender their old land to non-muslims.
https://www.britannica.com/topic/Hamas
From the late 1970s, activists connected with the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood established a network of charities, clinics, and schools and became active in the territories (the Gaza Strip and West Bank) occupied by Israel after the 1967 Six-Day War. In Gaza they were active in many mosques, while their activities in the West Bank generally were limited to the universities. The Muslim Brotherhood’s activities in these areas were generally nonviolent, but a number of small groups in the occupied territories began to call for jihad, or holy war, against Israel. In December 1987, at the beginning of the Palestinian intifada (Arabic intifāḍah, “shaking off”) uprising against Israeli occupation, Hamas (which also is an Arabic word meaning “zeal”) was established by members of the Muslim Brotherhood and religious factions of the PLO, and the new organization quickly acquired a broad following. In its 1988 charter, Hamas maintained that Palestine is an Islamic homeland that can never be surrendered to non-Muslims and that waging holy war to wrest control of Palestine from Israel is a religious duty for Palestinian Muslims. This position brought it into conflict with the PLO, which in 1988 recognized Israel’s right to exist.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

 

[Toby D. Dog]

So fucking gross.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

So fucking gross.

making up stories about their own babies being killed while they bomb hospitals and brag about killing babies on tv. its easy to see that this isnt really about politics, its racial supremacy. the israelis think they deserve to live more than anyone else, that they're like humans but better. they dont consider the palestinians to be the same species.

 

[NAMELESS]

what did they edit in place of the puppy?

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making up stories about their own babies being killed while they bomb hospitals and brag about killing babies on tv

ahh ok

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making up stories about their own babies being killed while they bomb hospitals and brag about killing babies on tv

I expect a to see a lot of psyops in this incident.i'm taking everything i see with a grain of salt.

 

[Tobra]

@Tobra I believe either you or Nikainparis told me that,but i forgot to mention this.This is actually more evidence that Israel is trying to starve them a bit before raiding them.They bombed supplies,right

yeah it’s clear the idf wants to kill as many palestinians as they want

they say evacuate but bomb every single place people can go to, they bomb locations they already bombed to get rid of medics trying to save lives

i don’t know how many journalists are dead

people’s batteries are running out that means no cameras that means whatever atrocities israel commits we wouldnt be able to see

and they say it’s not apartheid

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what did they edit in place of the puppy?

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ahh ok

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I expect a to see a lot of psyops in this incident.i'm taking everything i see with a grain of salt.

https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1712586601249812485?s=46&t=7CFxwAtj7epYbh060po-XA

 

[Toby D. Dog]

yeah it’s clear the idf wants to kill as many palestinians as they want

they say evacuate but bomb every single place people can go to, they bomb locations they already bombed to get rid of medics trying to save lives

i don’t know how many journalists are dead

people’s batteries are running out that means no cameras that means whatever atrocities israel commits we wouldnt be able to see

and they say it’s not apartheid

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https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1712586601249812485?s=46&t=7CFxwAtj7epYbh060po-XA

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712458867446305139

 

[NAMELESS]

yeah it’s clear the idf wants to kill as many palestinians as they want

they say evacuate but bomb every single place people can go to, they bomb locations they already bombed to get rid of medics trying to save lives

i don’t know how many journalists are dead

people’s batteries are running out that means no cameras that means whatever atrocities israel commits we wouldnt be able to see

and they say it’s not apartheid

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https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1712586601249812485?s=46&t=7CFxwAtj7epYbh060po-XA

I think the Israeli should retaliate with boots on the ground.Bombing them just produces new terrorists because of all the civilian casualties.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

https://x.com/jacksonhinklle/status/1712586601249812485?s=46&t=7CFxwAtj7epYbh060po-XA

Be careful with this hinkle guy. He is an actual anti-Semite.

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https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1712503258734870884

 

[Tobra]

i now hope this turns into a war that iran and hezboallah participate in

im so sick of my people living in misery while we are made out to be monsters iraq libya syria yemen palestine it has never stopped

and we have to condemn every single time an arab or a muslim does something terrible

 

[Toby D. Dog]

i now hope this turns into a war that iran and hezboallah participate in

im so sick of my people living in misery while we are made out to be monsters iraq libya syria yemen palestine it has never stopped

and we have to condemn every single time an arab or a muslim does something terrible

If this turns into a full scale war it'll mean more dead civilians, including Palestinian children.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

If this turns into a full scale war it'll mean more dead civilians, including Palestinian children.

civilians are all israel knows how to kill. if it comes down to a real war maybe it will eventually end.

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I think the Israeli should retaliate with boots on the ground.Bombing them just produces new terrorists because of all the civilian casualties.

this would be vietnam 2 electric boogaloo. it would go really badly

 

[Tobra]

If this turns into a full scale war it'll mean more dead civilians, including Palestinian children.

palestinians have been dying for 75 years if there’s a possibility of change by a war i would support it

 

[Toby D. Dog]

civilians are all israel knows how to kill. if it comes down to a real war maybe it will eventually end.

It's a war that a coalition of countries like Iran and Libya can't win. Israel is too powerful and has the full support of NATO. It would be a bloody war that would end with the complete annihilation of Palestine and its people.

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palestinians have been dying for 75 years if there’s a possibility of change by a war i would support it

There isn't any. They can't win in a full out war. Peace is the only solution where these children get to live.

 

[NAMELESS]

civilians are all israel knows how to kill. if it comes down to a real war maybe it will eventually end.

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this would be vietnam 2 electric boogaloo. it would go really badly

palestinians have been dying for 75 years if there’s a possibility of change by a war i would support it

They probably won't win such war and even if they do,the west will retaliate.The best solution is to compromise and create a Palestinian state.Israel isn't going away anytime soon.No more wars.

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I just saw some gore by accident on twitter.Fuck Elon Musk.

 

[Roo]

i now hope this turns into a war that iran and hezboallah participate in

im so sick of my people living in misery while we are made out to be monsters iraq libya syria yemen palestine it has never stopped

and we have to condemn every single time an arab or a muslim does something terrible

LMAO hoping for an outright world war has to be a new low for this thread.

What exactly do you think will happen to Palestine and Israel if other countries get involved? What do you wish to see? Stop being tribalistic and use your brain.

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Why Egypt won't open it's border and arab countries hate the palestinians, by redditors

It's just a matter of national security. Lebanon, Jordan and Egypt don't want to risk the chance of any islamist sneaking in amongst the refugees.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Why Egypt won't open it's border and arab countries hate the palestinians, by redditors

Spare us your cheap ass rationalizations. No one here is gonna agree with your bloodthirsty mental gymnastics as to why it's justified to kill innocents.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

palestinians have been dying for 75 years if there’s a possibility of change by a war i would support it

Iran invading Israel would have a decent chance of escalating into a third world war.

Backing israel into a corner would also give the likud party the justification they need to completely exterminate the Palestinians.

really, the only hope for the Palestinians is that

1. Israel elects more palestine-sympathetic leaders
2. America forces israel to end the apartheid and treat the Palestinians better

Honestly, I think the most realistic scenario would be for the Arab world to finally just give in to the west, accept Israel, and relocate the Palestinians elsewhere.