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People are so quick to attach -isms and -phobias onto people these days. 
But I know how you operate here so i know what you're gonna say and how you'll obfuscate from my core argument. You guys are culture warriors at the end of the day.
You also misjudge people's characters at a whim. We don't agree politically, but I don't argue from bad faith. I can't speak for anyone else on that matter.
I also don't have the time to scope out someone's past posts. Furthermore, they're your words, as I haven't said those. However, in this political climate, if someone said: "I have a problem with Muslim grooming gangs," it wouldn't be: "Yeah, that shit is awful," it'll usually be: "Why are you such a racist? Islamophic?!" When it's not even about ALL Muslims, just a group of them which do target white and Sikh girls.
I do think a core issue is that people never really want to communicate. At the end of the day, finding understanding with your 'enemy' is the harder course of action, so people don't even try. Better to demonize them, eh? But I'm mostly a whitey, so I gotta stay quiet? Yeah?
...Damn, I love this, lmao.
I also don't have the time to scope out someone's past posts. Furthermore, they're your words, as I haven't said those. However, in this political climate, if someone said: "I have a problem with Muslim grooming gangs," it wouldn't be: "Yeah, that shit is awful," it'll usually be: "Why are you such a racist? Islamophic?!" When it's not even about ALL Muslims, just a group of them which do target white and Sikh girls.
I do think a core issue is that people never really want to communicate. At the end of the day, finding understanding with your 'enemy' is the harder course of action, so people don't even try. Better to demonize them, eh? But I'm mostly a whitey, so I gotta stay quiet? Yeah?
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...Damn, I love this, lmao.
I do not judge anyone. One can disagree with Gender Politics but be completely okay with the individuals in question. Though this is murky, as some people assume not 100% affirmation is by it's nature, not accepting.
Ethnic background does not matter to me. I was the person here who argued that blood and soil is a myth and retarded. It's about adopting the culture of your homeland that makes you a member of that nation, not your blood -- so once again, wrong.
Finally, immigration status? Yes. I certainly do NOT agree with illegal immigration. If you're an illegal immigrant you are stepping on the hard work of those who legally moved to the country. You are disrespecting the laws of that country. You are nothing but a selfish individual who believes you are above the law. Yet, would I actively leave such people to die if I saw them starving? No. It may surprise you, but I have a heart.
Instead of listening to what you want to believe me to be because I'm not of your political affiliation, how about you listen to what I say?
As for why ethnicity was brought into this -- technically, Zolo did. I was continuing that conversation thread. Since you were so happy to call people a racist, I was bringing up situations where others will call people racists unjustifiably.
Ethnic background does not matter to me. I was the person here who argued that blood and soil is a myth and retarded. It's about adopting the culture of your homeland that makes you a member of that nation, not your blood -- so once again, wrong.
Finally, immigration status? Yes. I certainly do NOT agree with illegal immigration. If you're an illegal immigrant you are stepping on the hard work of those who legally moved to the country. You are disrespecting the laws of that country. You are nothing but a selfish individual who believes you are above the law. Yet, would I actively leave such people to die if I saw them starving? No. It may surprise you, but I have a heart.
Instead of listening to what you want to believe me to be because I'm not of your political affiliation, how about you listen to what I say?
As for why ethnicity was brought into this -- technically, Zolo did. I was continuing that conversation thread. Since you were so happy to call people a racist, I was bringing up situations where others will call people racists unjustifiably.
I didn't call no one a racist. I asked him what he meant by that and then Solis implied he might be racist. I responded with "figured, but let's hear what he says to say *wink* *wink*"
Sure there might be an implication, but I'm actually asking what he meant by that cause he isn't being clear.
Now, if you can't understand why illegal immigration is a thing in the first place, or you simply don't care as to why it happens then it's not worth having this conversation. In good faith, I welcome you to read on Latin American immigration, especially those coming from central america, and why those people are fleeing to the united states.
Sure there might be an implication, but I'm actually asking what he meant by that cause he isn't being clear.
Now, if you can't understand why illegal immigration is a thing in the first place, or you simply don't care as to why it happens then it's not worth having this conversation. In good faith, I welcome you to read on Latin American immigration, especially those coming from central america, and why those people are fleeing to the united states.
I can have empathy for why people immigrate, sometimes even illegally. But why do the rights of those fleeing outweigh that of the local populace who have their job market oversaturated with labour which drives down employment rates and wages?
I understand why it is a thing. But I don't agree with it. What I especially don't agree with are those crossing the UK channel every day on little dinghies endangering their lives, calling themselves refugees when they're already in a safe place - France. It might sound cruel, and it probably is, but when all the immigrants are young men of fighting age, their cries for 'Asylum' feel like lies.
Welcoming migrants is acceptable when the country has enough to provide. Mine does not. We do not have the economic strength to house more migrants. Do you know what happens? We put British nationals at the bottom of the housing list. We house migrants in hotels and give them new homes but let our own poor rot on the streets. Go to any major British city and you'll see the poverty. I grew up in that, so it hits very close to my heart.
I understand why it is a thing. But I don't agree with it. What I especially don't agree with are those crossing the UK channel every day on little dinghies endangering their lives, calling themselves refugees when they're already in a safe place - France. It might sound cruel, and it probably is, but when all the immigrants are young men of fighting age, their cries for 'Asylum' feel like lies.
Welcoming migrants is acceptable when the country has enough to provide. Mine does not. We do not have the economic strength to house more migrants. Do you know what happens? We put British nationals at the bottom of the housing list. We house migrants in hotels and give them new homes but let our own poor rot on the streets. Go to any major British city and you'll see the poverty. I grew up in that, so it hits very close to my heart.
I'm speaking about somewhere outside of the US fucking hell.
To add, I am not knowledgeable enough in American politics or culture to make a judgement. It could very well be that way. I'd have to look into it.
@Admiral Maynard I know many German individuals who hold a great disdain for the United States. The following question is not an assumption, but a curious question I have. Given what happened to Germany post WW2, would you consider Germany a country that had been colonized, at least culturally, by the U.S.A and Soviet Russia respectively? If so, do you think this is the cause of the mass-dislike of America that many from Germany have (I know about 12 German individuals who are all distinctly anti-American. Not a huge sample size, but enough to create a pattern).
Furthermore, on another (perhaps) interesting tangent, would people agree that rampant Capitalism's root cause could be extreme individualism? Hear me out: Capitalism was born in the biggest immigrant-founded country of all time, the U.S.A. It is well known that countries with homogenous ethnicities OR cultures tend to be more cohesive and communal. Examples of these are many modern day Asian countries (for example, Korea) and also Nordic countries.
America on the other hand has a massive issue with social cohesion from how the media portrays it. A lot of the racism that we hear about tends to be imported, so to speak, from America, where their historical grievances feel more valid. So I am wondering, do you think the lack of social cohesion due to massive ethnic and cultural differences due to how America was founded could have birthed the individualistically minded capitalism that focuses on personal wealth above all else? A lack of interest in one's neighbour, due to less social cohesion, could, in my mind, realistically birth such a philosophy.
As mentioned before, my understanding of American culture is murky, so this is just something that formed in my head as result of my conversation with @Toby D. Dog.
To add, I am not knowledgeable enough in American politics or culture to make a judgement. It could very well be that way. I'd have to look into it.
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@Admiral Maynard I know many German individuals who hold a great disdain for the United States. The following question is not an assumption, but a curious question I have. Given what happened to Germany post WW2, would you consider Germany a country that had been colonized, at least culturally, by the U.S.A and Soviet Russia respectively? If so, do you think this is the cause of the mass-dislike of America that many from Germany have (I know about 12 German individuals who are all distinctly anti-American. Not a huge sample size, but enough to create a pattern).
Furthermore, on another (perhaps) interesting tangent, would people agree that rampant Capitalism's root cause could be extreme individualism? Hear me out: Capitalism was born in the biggest immigrant-founded country of all time, the U.S.A. It is well known that countries with homogenous ethnicities OR cultures tend to be more cohesive and communal. Examples of these are many modern day Asian countries (for example, Korea) and also Nordic countries.
America on the other hand has a massive issue with social cohesion from how the media portrays it. A lot of the racism that we hear about tends to be imported, so to speak, from America, where their historical grievances feel more valid. So I am wondering, do you think the lack of social cohesion due to massive ethnic and cultural differences due to how America was founded could have birthed the individualistically minded capitalism that focuses on personal wealth above all else? A lack of interest in one's neighbour, due to less social cohesion, could, in my mind, realistically birth such a philosophy.
As mentioned before, my understanding of American culture is murky, so this is just something that formed in my head as result of my conversation with @Toby D. Dog.
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