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There too many extremist (doesen't matter left or right) who consume false and/or twisted news around the world; believing a narrative that paints a political side as absolute evil and drowing in propaganda. It affects mostly the already mentally unwell and weak think they would change something using violence or are fighting a enemy because the media (be it newsworks, twitter, reddit or any kind of cesspool who only ONE believe matters, ONE believe is right and any other are wrong, evil, fascist, ect.).
And C4N WANTS to be a millitant radical Left-Wing Extremist which is more than worrying.
And C4N WANTS to be a millitant radical Left-Wing Extremist which is more than worrying.
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Don't worry, as I said, you are not relevant enough to make me lose sleep.
No, I'm always being very precise. Some of you are not and are confusing me calling you a far rightist with a fascist. Those things are not the same.
I'm an antifascist. I fight fascists and crypto fascists as much as I can. Don't ask me why, that's just who I am. This place is where I put some of my time in, so I want it to be clean of that kind of darkness. Gladly, there are just some rando bigots here, so you don't have to worry about my health.
I'm sure you didn't pay attention to what is happening in France and all over the world those past few month, right ?
Why fighting fascism should be "radical" ? Have you lost your mind ? This should be the prime directive of everyone.
lmao, that's cute.
Lol dude.. I'm not even a radical leftist. Relax, me being an antifascist is just a result of the good education I had over the question of radicalization, fascism, war and oppression, there is absolutely nothing radical about that. Everyone should be an antifascist.
Don't worry, as I said, you are not relevant enough to make me lose sleep.
No, I'm always being very precise. Some of you are not and are confusing me calling you a far rightist with a fascist. Those things are not the same.
I'm an antifascist. I fight fascists and crypto fascists as much as I can. Don't ask me why, that's just who I am. This place is where I put some of my time in, so I want it to be clean of that kind of darkness. Gladly, there are just some rando bigots here, so you don't have to worry about my health.
I'm sure you didn't pay attention to what is happening in France and all over the world those past few month, right ?
Why fighting fascism should be "radical" ? Have you lost your mind ? This should be the prime directive of everyone.
lmao, that's cute.
Lol dude.. I'm not even a radical leftist. Relax, me being an antifascist is just a result of the good education I had over the question of radicalization, fascism, war and oppression, there is absolutely nothing radical about that. Everyone should be an antifascist.
Do you know why there is a saying that says "we don't discuss with fascist, we fight them" ?
The primary reason why, is that because by trying to discuss with fascist, you are actively inviting fascist ideas in to the discussion table. In short, you are transforming fascist idea into something acceptable to have a discussion with. You are therefore opening the overton windows completely to the far right and fascist political spectrum.
Secondly, its also because in the discussion with the fascist, there can only be one winner, the fascist.
A fascist only wants one thing, a place to talk and propagate their ideology. By discussing with them, we are giving them just that and by making the discussion last to the eyes of everyone we are risking the possibility of a propagation of ideas..
.. Because don't be blind, far right ideaologies are far from being hard to process. In fact its VERY EASY to be tempted by far right and fascists ideologies, simply because of the way our brain is wired. You can see that happening in real time all over the world and here in this forum.
So fascists is where I draw the lines. Note that I shouldn't be discussing with far right biggot like those guys here, but I'm doing it anyway because this forum is already corrupted by far right idea and its needs a real leftist voice. But fascism is out of the line. It only has one place, and that's out.
The primary reason why, is that because by trying to discuss with fascist, you are actively inviting fascist ideas in to the discussion table. In short, you are transforming fascist idea into something acceptable to have a discussion with. You are therefore opening the overton windows completely to the far right and fascist political spectrum.
Secondly, its also because in the discussion with the fascist, there can only be one winner, the fascist.
A fascist only wants one thing, a place to talk and propagate their ideology. By discussing with them, we are giving them just that and by making the discussion last to the eyes of everyone we are risking the possibility of a propagation of ideas..
.. Because don't be blind, far right ideaologies are far from being hard to process. In fact its VERY EASY to be tempted by far right and fascists ideologies, simply because of the way our brain is wired. You can see that happening in real time all over the world and here in this forum.
So fascists is where I draw the lines. Note that I shouldn't be discussing with far right biggot like those guys here, but I'm doing it anyway because this forum is already corrupted by far right idea and its needs a real leftist voice. But fascism is out of the line. It only has one place, and that's out.
The term "Fascism" gets brought up here every now and then (including the last couple of replies on this thread) but it's not a term that should be brought up in a political convo thread lightly at all.
Bringing up historical observations on how fascism in Nazi Germany and Italy came about + how life under fascism was for the average German citizen could prove to be more beneficial for discussion here. A dictator at the top of the helm of his/her political party is one trait of fascist governments, but how the ones in authority treats other citizens that have differing views from what the authority preaches to be "the common good" (actions would matter more than words said by a politician or dictator here) can be another trait.
The members who lean towards the left side of the political spectrum complain about various human rights issues, rights for certain people, and any other personal issues that affect them as a people. Note that they may have but they usually go about their business (and have their privacy to themselves) outside of their daily lives.
Under true fascism, these people would already be purged/disappeared/sent to camps.
(There is an enormous amount of content to unpack here because understanding how fascism took ahold of Nazi Germany + events + changes in life for the regular citizens under this new government during WW2 on a deep level might be a prerequisite for discussing this topic).
Oh, and its possible alternative (life under Stalin during USSR) wasn't that much better either, unfortunately because both regimes were legitimately restrictive asf for the average citizens that lived during those times compared to life as a US citizen after WW2.
Bringing up historical observations on how fascism in Nazi Germany and Italy came about + how life under fascism was for the average German citizen could prove to be more beneficial for discussion here. A dictator at the top of the helm of his/her political party is one trait of fascist governments, but how the ones in authority treats other citizens that have differing views from what the authority preaches to be "the common good" (actions would matter more than words said by a politician or dictator here) can be another trait.
The members who lean towards the left side of the political spectrum complain about various human rights issues, rights for certain people, and any other personal issues that affect them as a people. Note that they may have but they usually go about their business (and have their privacy to themselves) outside of their daily lives.
Under true fascism, these people would already be purged/disappeared/sent to camps.
(There is an enormous amount of content to unpack here because understanding how fascism took ahold of Nazi Germany + events + changes in life for the regular citizens under this new government during WW2 on a deep level might be a prerequisite for discussing this topic).
Oh, and its possible alternative (life under Stalin during USSR) wasn't that much better either, unfortunately because both regimes were legitimately restrictive asf for the average citizens that lived during those times compared to life as a US citizen after WW2.
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Indeed, that's why we must fight it works before it happens, because what you just described is fascism applied to the states. What I'm fighting against is the stage before that, where fascist is just an ideology engrain in some people and where media leaves too much rooms for far right ideologies to expand.
