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Simple answer you guys just live in cosy world and say Free Palestine you are feed with one side narrative.
But reality is most Arab countries secretly desire extermination of Jews . There is two side of story it’s unfortunate woke news channel show only one part and I am not really surprised Israel has a bad PR because they know if they give up arming it’s end of them .
Hamas final objective is destruction of Israel if you endorse them I can’t help it .
Both sides are fighting for their own cause one for complete eradication of a Jewish race and another to protect themselves .
But reality is most Arab countries secretly desire extermination of Jews . There is two side of story it’s unfortunate woke news channel show only one part and I am not really surprised Israel has a bad PR because they know if they give up arming it’s end of them .
Hamas final objective is destruction of Israel if you endorse them I can’t help it .
Both sides are fighting for their own cause one for complete eradication of a Jewish race and another to protect themselves .
Yet you support the extermination of the Palestinians, Justifying it because of October 7th and claiming the only way for Israel to be safe is by expelling every single Palestinian. Bringing wokeness into it which means absolutely nothing except trying to shame those who have basic human emapthy for 1.5 million people who are at the brink of being cleansed from their own native land.
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That's quite one sided don't you think?
You mean the final solution?
Ofc you are eight for the most part but I need to address the bolded part. Certain sides of the political spectrum hyper focus on this particular conflict and this particular instance of genocide / ethnic cleansing while most other instances are neither talked about now even shown on the mainstream news, resulting in extreme biases as to which group of people is worth protesting for and which isn't. Try not to fall into this media trap.
You mean the final solution?
Ofc you are eight for the most part but I need to address the bolded part. Certain sides of the political spectrum hyper focus on this particular conflict and this particular instance of genocide / ethnic cleansing while most other instances are neither talked about now even shown on the mainstream news, resulting in extreme biases as to which group of people is worth protesting for and which isn't. Try not to fall into this media trap.
The definition of ethnic cleansing is this.
The conditions and actions that constitute ethnic cleansing are as follows:
Trump’s reasoning for relocating Gaza’s population centers around ensuring their safety. He stated this:
That statement there implies his belief that having the Gaza population be transferred to a different location could improve their standard of living, since right now at this time, their homeland is pretty much in tatters, and risks of them facing more danger are high.
Right now, the plan at this stage appears to be focused on providing humanitarian relief, aiming to move Palestinians away from active conflict zones. Infrastructure in Gaza has been heavily damaged from the prolonged bombardments that happened in war, and access to basic necessities like water, electricity, and healthcare is severely limited.
Trump’s proposal can be interpreted as an effort to provide immediate safety and stability for civilians rather than an attempt to erase their presence or cultural identity...maybe.
I know that Egypt and Jordan are reluctant to take in Palestinians for fear of destabilization. I mean, a sudden influx of refugees would put a strain on their already limited resources and worsen any existing social tensions between them and Palestine.
But...
Have the two countries step into the shoes of the U.S. for a moment and experience what it’s like to take in migrants at such a massive scale that public services get overwhelmed, social divisions deepen, and political tensions spiral out of control. It might just end up being a learning experience for them on the effects of mass migration on a country...and for some of us too.
Edit: Israel is pretty much responsible for the conditions that Gaza is in such that only option for the Palestinians is a mass exodus, or live in a high-risk zone where their entire nation has been torn to pieces.
What a pain.
Ethnic cleansing is the systematic forced removal of an ethnic, religious, or cultural group from a specific geographic area through the use of force, intimidation, or coercion. This action is carried out with the intent of allowing another group to claim exclusive control of the land, aiming to achieve ethnic, cultural, or political uniformity.
The conditions and actions that constitute ethnic cleansing are as follows:
- Forced Displacement: The systematic removal of an existing population from an area based on their ethnicity, religion, or identity, through deportations, including evacuation orders.
- Coercion and Intimidation: The use of threats, violence, or other forms of pressure by the offending party to force individuals or groups to leave their homes.
- Acts of Violence: Actions such as killings, torture, or other acts intended to degrade or harm a specific group.
- Destruction of Property: The intentional demolition of homes, places of worship, or cultural landmarks by the offending party, effectively erasing the group's connection to the area.
- Denial of Return: Policies or physical barriers that prevent displaced populations from returning to their original homes.
- Permanent Removal: The permanent removal of a group from an area, where the offending party aims to erase the presence of the group that previously lived there.
Trump’s reasoning for relocating Gaza’s population centers around ensuring their safety. He stated this:
That statement there implies his belief that having the Gaza population be transferred to a different location could improve their standard of living, since right now at this time, their homeland is pretty much in tatters, and risks of them facing more danger are high.
Right now, the plan at this stage appears to be focused on providing humanitarian relief, aiming to move Palestinians away from active conflict zones. Infrastructure in Gaza has been heavily damaged from the prolonged bombardments that happened in war, and access to basic necessities like water, electricity, and healthcare is severely limited.
Trump’s proposal can be interpreted as an effort to provide immediate safety and stability for civilians rather than an attempt to erase their presence or cultural identity...maybe.
I know that Egypt and Jordan are reluctant to take in Palestinians for fear of destabilization. I mean, a sudden influx of refugees would put a strain on their already limited resources and worsen any existing social tensions between them and Palestine.
But...
Have the two countries step into the shoes of the U.S. for a moment and experience what it’s like to take in migrants at such a massive scale that public services get overwhelmed, social divisions deepen, and political tensions spiral out of control. It might just end up being a learning experience for them on the effects of mass migration on a country...and for some of us too.
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Edit: Israel is pretty much responsible for the conditions that Gaza is in such that only option for the Palestinians is a mass exodus, or live in a high-risk zone where their entire nation has been torn to pieces.
What a pain.
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I based an entire character in a book off of the concept that people from "1st world" countries treat people from non 1st world countries like statistics.
Reducing humans down to numbers, to numerical value, is the core flaw of capitalism, IMO.
This is why I hate education systems obsessed with "grading" children and pitting them against each other.
People act like it's only a genocide if it's over 6 million people, it's ridiculous.
I've fallen into this mindset a lot in my life living in brainwashed societies.
The Ontological shock of realizing your branch of religion/government is evil is just too great for a lot of people, so they lie/deny to keep their brains from accepting they're wrong.
Reducing humans down to numbers, to numerical value, is the core flaw of capitalism, IMO.
This is why I hate education systems obsessed with "grading" children and pitting them against each other.
People act like it's only a genocide if it's over 6 million people, it's ridiculous.
I've fallen into this mindset a lot in my life living in brainwashed societies.
The Ontological shock of realizing your branch of religion/government is evil is just too great for a lot of people, so they lie/deny to keep their brains from accepting they're wrong.
I voted for Harris
but ngl browsing Reddit makes me want to defend Trump because every other post there is so needlessly clickbait-y or hyperbolic
https://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/s/wLRZ2lK1yo
Like this thing outright didn’t happen. Native Americans are not under threat of deportation.
What happened is that ICE targets illegal immigrants, some native Americans got caught up in their operations, but those people were identified and released.
And that is bad no doubt. But native Americans aren’t being targeted or deported.
And like you can make the argument that immigration enforcement is inherently racist because most undocumented immigrants are brown.
But it’s a silly argument because on some level, immigration law needs to be enforced. The discretion to which is debatable.
But it is a good thing that the US is showing illegal immigrants that they are not welcome. These immigrants are exploited by people who sell them false promises and subsequently exploited by businesses to be leveraged against American labor.
but ngl browsing Reddit makes me want to defend Trump because every other post there is so needlessly clickbait-y or hyperbolic
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https://www.reddit.com/r/nottheonion/s/wLRZ2lK1yo
Like this thing outright didn’t happen. Native Americans are not under threat of deportation.
What happened is that ICE targets illegal immigrants, some native Americans got caught up in their operations, but those people were identified and released.
And that is bad no doubt. But native Americans aren’t being targeted or deported.
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And like you can make the argument that immigration enforcement is inherently racist because most undocumented immigrants are brown.
But it’s a silly argument because on some level, immigration law needs to be enforced. The discretion to which is debatable.
But it is a good thing that the US is showing illegal immigrants that they are not welcome. These immigrants are exploited by people who sell them false promises and subsequently exploited by businesses to be leveraged against American labor.
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