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You do understand that the corruption within the USSR is not something that we negate, right?
You are literally implying "communism fell because capitalism was not fully eradicated"
Which is true, the USSR could have never get rid of capitalism to begin with, they were not intersectionnal and real materialists. It would have never worked like that anyway.
I feel like you are not seeing your contradictions here so I will try to destruct this step by step.
> First, what do you think happens to the wealth of billionnaires when we strip them from that wealth and redistribute it ?
> Second, do you understand the reason why monopolies under capitalism are bad ?
> Did you know that billionnaire uses leftist imagery to stay under the radars of the population ?
> Is Elon musk asking for Communism ?
Yes, but collectivisation is not impossible. In fact, we can see this type of system in many of our lifes aspect (wikipedia for ex).
So people are not exploited by the bourgeoisie ?
If you strangle me, do you think someone would be wrong to tell you that you are preventing me from breezing?
BEcause that's exactly what you are saying right now. The blocus and sanctions are literally preventing ressources and energy to flow.
You are literally implying "communism fell because capitalism was not fully eradicated"
Which is true, the USSR could have never get rid of capitalism to begin with, they were not intersectionnal and real materialists. It would have never worked like that anyway.
I feel like you are not seeing your contradictions here so I will try to destruct this step by step.
> First, what do you think happens to the wealth of billionnaires when we strip them from that wealth and redistribute it ?
> Second, do you understand the reason why monopolies under capitalism are bad ?
> Did you know that billionnaire uses leftist imagery to stay under the radars of the population ?
> Is Elon musk asking for Communism ?
Yes, but collectivisation is not impossible. In fact, we can see this type of system in many of our lifes aspect (wikipedia for ex).
So people are not exploited by the bourgeoisie ?
If you strangle me, do you think someone would be wrong to tell you that you are preventing me from breezing?
BEcause that's exactly what you are saying right now. The blocus and sanctions are literally preventing ressources and energy to flow.
Lad.. What makes you think that you are not the one being "used"?
You are defending capitalism while dunking on hypercapitalists while trying to argue that the end of capitalism is not possible with someone who wants communist all while still believing in the myth of meritocracy perpetuated by capitalists to keep you under their exploitation...
Your rethoric logically looks like this as a result:
Capitalism is our current system mate I'm sorry. It's the private ownership of the means of production. While capitalism do exist, true communism never did indeed. Even you demonstrated that under the so called communist states, there were still remains of capitalism mindset yet..
Why? Mostly because you can't create communism through only one nation because capitalist country will mechanically attack any socialist nation that rises for these nation will become a threat to their interests. The reason why China managed to go by is because they are freaking powerfull. And gradually, you will see them move away from capitalism, which has the potential to push america to fight them to keep their interests.
This is why there are sanctions over north korea, this is why venezuela has been attacked, this is why the URSS was attacked by all side, this is why Cuba is currently being starved and mostly, this is why the west, especially the US has been intervening in raising socialist countries all over the global south.
That's called imperialism, one of the aspects of capitalism. And imperialism is why Iran is being attacked right now btw.
So yes, socialist country do exist. You could even say that the state of transition between capitalism country and communism has been tried multiple time also, but true communism has never seen the light of day. You would know, we would live in a literal paradise by now.
And I'm not even joking, if communist is done through intersectionnal and materialistic means, what will be created will be close to heaven on earth.
Within the span of a few decades you will see the violences against women and children disappear, you will see crime stop (no reason to steal within communism), you will see the end of imperialism which means that nation will start to let the place to myriads of diverse populations and knowledge.
Our diversity of Art, music, science and culture will be demultiplied by the simple fact of integrating the entirerity of the human specy instead of simply the whitesupremacist north global.
People will start to work at of fullfillment for the community instead of survival. Anger and hunger will disappear, conflict will be reduced radically, people will have time to think, chill, create, research, inovate everyday.
Science, Technologies and copyright which are currently limited by the arms of greed will be freed from the constrain of having to make profit. You will see the people starting to make things to better the humanity instead of making money thus creating - in the span of a decade - a massive technological leap close to the gap we currently have between the 2000's and the 1500'. (And I'm not even kiddin).
And all of that can be done at the condition that we collectively agree to push ourselves forward.
A truly, it's our only choice. Between the current crisis of capitalism, global warming and the development of AI, if we do not create a shift between now and 100 years from now, humanity will boil alive.
You are defending capitalism while dunking on hypercapitalists while trying to argue that the end of capitalism is not possible with someone who wants communist all while still believing in the myth of meritocracy perpetuated by capitalists to keep you under their exploitation...
Your rethoric logically looks like this as a result:
Capitalism is our current system mate I'm sorry. It's the private ownership of the means of production. While capitalism do exist, true communism never did indeed. Even you demonstrated that under the so called communist states, there were still remains of capitalism mindset yet..
Why? Mostly because you can't create communism through only one nation because capitalist country will mechanically attack any socialist nation that rises for these nation will become a threat to their interests. The reason why China managed to go by is because they are freaking powerfull. And gradually, you will see them move away from capitalism, which has the potential to push america to fight them to keep their interests.
This is why there are sanctions over north korea, this is why venezuela has been attacked, this is why the URSS was attacked by all side, this is why Cuba is currently being starved and mostly, this is why the west, especially the US has been intervening in raising socialist countries all over the global south.
That's called imperialism, one of the aspects of capitalism. And imperialism is why Iran is being attacked right now btw.
So yes, socialist country do exist. You could even say that the state of transition between capitalism country and communism has been tried multiple time also, but true communism has never seen the light of day. You would know, we would live in a literal paradise by now.
And I'm not even joking, if communist is done through intersectionnal and materialistic means, what will be created will be close to heaven on earth.
Within the span of a few decades you will see the violences against women and children disappear, you will see crime stop (no reason to steal within communism), you will see the end of imperialism which means that nation will start to let the place to myriads of diverse populations and knowledge.
Our diversity of Art, music, science and culture will be demultiplied by the simple fact of integrating the entirerity of the human specy instead of simply the whitesupremacist north global.
People will start to work at of fullfillment for the community instead of survival. Anger and hunger will disappear, conflict will be reduced radically, people will have time to think, chill, create, research, inovate everyday.
Science, Technologies and copyright which are currently limited by the arms of greed will be freed from the constrain of having to make profit. You will see the people starting to make things to better the humanity instead of making money thus creating - in the span of a decade - a massive technological leap close to the gap we currently have between the 2000's and the 1500'. (And I'm not even kiddin).
And all of that can be done at the condition that we collectively agree to push ourselves forward.
A truly, it's our only choice. Between the current crisis of capitalism, global warming and the development of AI, if we do not create a shift between now and 100 years from now, humanity will boil alive.
Lad.. What makes you think that you are not the one being "used"?
You are defending capitalism while dunking on hypercapitalists while trying to argue that the end of capitalism is not possible with someone who wants communist all while still believing in the myth of meritocracy perpetuated by capitalists to keep you under their exploitation...
Your rethoric logically looks like this as a result:
Capitalism is our current system mate I'm sorry. It's the private ownership of the means of production. While capitalism do exist, true communism never did indeed. Even you demonstrated that under the so called communist states, there were still remains of capitalism mindset yet..
Why? Mostly because you can't create communism through only one nation because capitalist country will mechanically attack any socialist nation that rises for these nation will become a threat to their interests. The reason why China managed to go by is because they are freaking powerfull. And gradually, you will see them move away from capitalism, which has the potential to push america to fight them to keep their interests.
This is why there are sanctions over north korea, this is why venezuela has been attacked, this is why the URSS was attacked by all side, this is why Cuba is currently being starved and mostly, this is why the west, especially the US has been intervening in raising socialist countries all over the global south.
That's called imperialism, one of the aspects of capitalism. And imperialism is why Iran is being attacked right now btw.
So yes, socialist country do exist. You could even say that the state of transition between capitalism country and communism has been tried multiple time also, but true communism has never seen the light of day. You would know, we would live in a literal paradise by now.
And I'm not even joking, if communist is done through intersectionnal and materialistic means, what will be created will be close to heaven on earth.
Within the span of a few decades you will see the violences against women and children disappear, you will see crime stop (no reason to steal within communism), you will see the end of imperialism which means that nation will start to let the place to myriads of diverse populations and knowledge.
Our diversity of Art, music, science and culture will be demultiplied by the simple fact of integrating the entirerity of the human specy instead of simply the whitesupremacist north global.
People will start to work at of fullfillment for the community instead of survival. Anger and hunger will disappear, conflict will be reduced radically, people will have time to think, chill, create, research, inovate everyday.
Science, Technologies and copyright which are currently limited by the arms of greed will be freed from the constrain of having to make profit. You will see the people starting to make things to better the humanity instead of making money thus creating - in the span of a decade - a massive technological leap close to the gap we currently have between the 2000's and the 1500'. (And I'm not even kiddin).
And all of that can be done at the condition that we collectively agree to push ourselves forward.
A truly, it's our only choice. Between the current crisis of capitalism, global warming and the development of AI, if we do not create a shift between now and 100 years from now, humanity will boil alive.
You are defending capitalism while dunking on hypercapitalists while trying to argue that the end of capitalism is not possible with someone who wants communist all while still believing in the myth of meritocracy perpetuated by capitalists to keep you under their exploitation...
Your rethoric logically looks like this as a result:
Capitalism is our current system mate I'm sorry. It's the private ownership of the means of production. While capitalism do exist, true communism never did indeed. Even you demonstrated that under the so called communist states, there were still remains of capitalism mindset yet..
Why? Mostly because you can't create communism through only one nation because capitalist country will mechanically attack any socialist nation that rises for these nation will become a threat to their interests. The reason why China managed to go by is because they are freaking powerfull. And gradually, you will see them move away from capitalism, which has the potential to push america to fight them to keep their interests.
This is why there are sanctions over north korea, this is why venezuela has been attacked, this is why the URSS was attacked by all side, this is why Cuba is currently being starved and mostly, this is why the west, especially the US has been intervening in raising socialist countries all over the global south.
That's called imperialism, one of the aspects of capitalism. And imperialism is why Iran is being attacked right now btw.
So yes, socialist country do exist. You could even say that the state of transition between capitalism country and communism has been tried multiple time also, but true communism has never seen the light of day. You would know, we would live in a literal paradise by now.
And I'm not even joking, if communist is done through intersectionnal and materialistic means, what will be created will be close to heaven on earth.
Within the span of a few decades you will see the violences against women and children disappear, you will see crime stop (no reason to steal within communism), you will see the end of imperialism which means that nation will start to let the place to myriads of diverse populations and knowledge.
Our diversity of Art, music, science and culture will be demultiplied by the simple fact of integrating the entirerity of the human specy instead of simply the whitesupremacist north global.
People will start to work at of fullfillment for the community instead of survival. Anger and hunger will disappear, conflict will be reduced radically, people will have time to think, chill, create, research, inovate everyday.
Science, Technologies and copyright which are currently limited by the arms of greed will be freed from the constrain of having to make profit. You will see the people starting to make things to better the humanity instead of making money thus creating - in the span of a decade - a massive technological leap close to the gap we currently have between the 2000's and the 1500'. (And I'm not even kiddin).
And all of that can be done at the condition that we collectively agree to push ourselves forward.
A truly, it's our only choice. Between the current crisis of capitalism, global warming and the development of AI, if we do not create a shift between now and 100 years from now, humanity will boil alive.