Controversial General Political Discussion

[Tejas]

Which if your favourite Hindu god?

All of them

First my Guru Dattatreya and my Mother Anagha

Ganesha, the God of Beginnings and Rover of Obstacles

The Trimurthi(3) and their respective wives:
Shiva - Parvati and Ganga
Vishnu - Lakshmi and Bhumi
Brahma - Saraswati, Gayatri and Savitri

Kartikeya - The God of War
Ayyappan

Surya The Sun God
Rama
Hanuman
Nandi the Bull
Garuda the Eagle
Adi Sesha and Vasuki the World Snakes

Jambavan the Bear
Soma Nandi/ Waghoba the Tiger/Leopard


And different forms of Shiva and Vishnu:
Sarabheshwara the Primordial Beast
Narasimha the Man-Lion
Kalabhairava
Virabhadra
Varaha the Galaxy sized Boar
Krishna
Dakshinamurthi
Hayagreeva

The Pramatha Ganas, attendants of Shiva
The Kumuda Ganas, attendants of Vishnu

Then Navagrahas or 9 celestial objects
Aditya, Chandra, Angaraka, Budha, Brihaspati, Shukraacharya, Shanischara, Rahu and Ketu

And 10 Dikpalakas
Indra, Agni, Yama(Enma), Nrrti, Varuna, Vasuki, Kubera, Isana, Narayana and Brahma

Vishwakarma the Divine architect
Chitragupta the Divine Scribe and record keeper
Aswins the horse headed Twins
Manmadha/Kama, the God of love and Vishnu's son
Maruts the Storm Gods
Pavaka, Pavamana and Shuchi the 3 aspects of fire and Sons of Agni
Anura/Aruna the original Phoenix
12 Adityas the Gods of light
The Viswedevas, the judges of Rituals
The Pitrus, our forefathers
The Rishis the sages
The river Godesses
The Mountain Gods
The 8 Immortals


In reality all of these are just forms of Brahman/Supreme which responds when prayed to any form or even no form

 

[Luffy is the mc]

So basically the George Floyd riots but for Frenchies

Just like for Georges Floyd, I think there should be a good reason behind a riot. In both cases, there simply isn't. It's just people who want to break and burn shit.

 

[Zolo]

All of them

First my Guru Dattatreya and my Mother Anagha

Ganesha, the God of Beginnings and Rover of Obstacles

The Trimurthi(3) and their respective wives:
Shiva - Parvati and Ganga
Vishnu - Lakshmi and Bhumi
Brahma - Saraswati, Gayatri and Savitri

Kartikeya - The God of War
Ayyappan

Surya The Sun God
Rama
Hanuman
Nandi the Bull
Garuda the Eagle
Adi Sesha and Vasuki the World Snakes

Jambavan the Bear
Soma Nandi/ Waghoba the Tiger/Leopard


And different forms of Shiva and Vishnu:
Sarabheshwara the Primordial Beast
Narasimha the Man-Lion
Kalabhairava
Virabhadra
Varaha the Galaxy sized Boar
Krishna
Dakshinamurthi
Hayagreeva

The Pramatha Ganas, attendants of Shiva
The Kumuda Ganas, attendants of Vishnu

Then Navagrahas or 9 celestial objects
Aditya, Chandra, Angaraka, Budha, Brihaspati, Shukraacharya, Shanischara, Rahu and Ketu

And 10 Dikpalakas
Indra, Agni, Yama(Enma), Nrrti, Varuna, Vasuki, Kubera, Isana, Narayana and Brahma

Vishwakarma the Divine architect
Chitragupta the Divine Scribe and record keeper
Aswins the horse headed Twins
Manmadha/Kama, the God of love and Vishnu's son
Maruts the Storm Gods
Pavaka, Pavamana and Shuchi the 3 aspects of fire and Sons of Agni
Anura/Aruna the original Phoenix
12 Adityas the Gods of light
The Viswedevas, the judges of Rituals
The Pitrus, our forefathers
The Rishis the sages
The river Godesses
The Mountain Gods
The 8 Immortals


In reality all of these are just forms of Brahman/Supreme which responds when prayed to any form or even no form

its strange how, but our paganism has so many conections to hinduism, nobody knows how

 

[Haoshoku]

Just like for Georges Floyd, I think there should be a good reason behind a riot. In both cases, there simply isn't. It's just people who want to break and burn shit.

Idk what is going on exactly but I do know that the North African/Muslim community in France has been facing discrimination for a while now. The pent up frustrations in France look hella more understandable than the George Floyd protests.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

One can protest without looting and rioting.

Idk what your goal is it just make people less sympathetic to your causes.

 

[Logiko]

Just like for Georges Floyd, I think there should be a good reason behind a riot. In both cases, there simply isn't. It's just people who want to break and burn shit.

There is a good reason in both case : systemic police violence

 

[Zolo]

One can protest without looting and rioting.

Idk what your goal is it just make people less sympathetic to your causes.

sometimes its blessing to live in a country where immigrants run away from too when they get there

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Idk what is going on exactly but I do know that the North African/Muslim community in France has been facing discrimination for a while now. The pent up frustrations in France look hella more understandable than the George Floyd protests.

As far as I know there isn't any discrimination towards them.

There is a good reason in both case : systemic police violence

This isn't a thing. Some cops are assholes, some cops are not well trained enough (especially in the USA).

 

[Haoshoku]

There is a good reason in both case : systemic police violence

There isn’t a good reason to riot and loot, it’s not simply not an effective way. Is it understandable? Certainly in this case. But the situation in France goes beyond simply “systemic police violence”, most of which is blown out of context anyway at least from what I know in the US, police violence could’ve been the case in this situation but considering the parties involved it doesn’t take a geopolitical expert to realize what is going on with the country as a whole and their discriminatory governmental policies towards the 6 million Muslims living there.

 

[Logiko]

This isn't a thing. Some cops are assholes, some cops are not well trained enough (especially in the USA

This is a thing, that centrist or right wingers like you refuse to aknowledge but it's a SYSTEMIC reality.

There isn’t a good reason to riot and loot, it’s not simply not an effective way. Is it understandable? Certainly in this case. But the situation in France goes beyond simply “systemic police violence”, most of which is blown out of context anyway at least from what I know in the US, police violence could’ve been the case in this situation but considering the parties involved it doesn’t take a geopolitical expert to realize what is going on with the country as a whole and their discriminatory governmental policies towards the 6 million Muslims living there.

France's democracy was literally built on riot. So yes, there are GOOD reasons for rioting. It's not an "effective way" its "A way" there are no "effective way to take down fascism or systemic violences, if that was the case we would already be living in a paradise.

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As far as I know there isn't any discrimination towards them.

There is, you just refuse to see them.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

This is a thing, that centrist or right wingers like you refuse to aknowledge but it's a SYSTEMIC reality

Will you then explain to me what exactly you refer to as "sistemic violence from the police" in France? I really have no idea what it is you are talking about and would genuinely like to know more about it

 

[Haoshoku]

As far as I know there isn't any discrimination towards them.

Well you’ve proven you don’t know much at all regarding that. Been going on for a while now, the worst coming under Macron with the hijab ban in schools and work. This isn’t to be confused with the circus show that is American politics btw, the situation in France is not the same.

 

[Luffy is the mc]

Well you’ve proven you don’t know much at all regarding that. Been going on for a while now, the worst coming under Macron with the hijab ban in schools and work. This isn’t to be confused with the circus show that is American politics btw, the situation in France is not the same.

No I know about that but this isn't discrimination. In France it's been like that for more than a 100 years, religion signs are not allowed at schools unless it's private schools, there is a separation between religion and public affairs.
There shouldn't be an exception for Muslims.
They can do whatever they want at home or in the streets but not at work and schools or public offices

 

[Logiko]

Will you then explain to me what exactly you refer to as "sistemic violence from the police" in France? I really have no idea what it is you are talking about and would genuinely like to know more about it

Systemic violence in the police means that, there is a violence that is happening not just because of one or 36 bad apple but because of a systemic problem inside of said institution. That systemic problem can have multiple face:

- The way policemen are taught to do their job
- The problem of having a huge representation of far right voters inside the police
- The problem of systemic discrimination and the way people of color are treated by said police
- The problem of sexism inside the institution on a global scale
- The way the police is treated by the justice compared to normal citizen
- The way CRS (in france) are literal animal asking for violences against protester
- Etc. Etc.

There are many many MANY systemic problems regarding police in France but also in the US.

Again, this isn't one or two incident, this is a systemic violence that take us back to the sixties. The police is unchecked and violent, most of them are far right and some of them are straight up fascist.

To quote Andor: It's easier to hide behind 30 atrocities that behind a single incident.

We must end police's impunity.

 

[Zolo]

break next week

 

[Haoshoku]

No I know about that but this isn't discrimination. In France it's been like that for more than a 100 years, religion signs are not allowed at schools unless it's private schools, there is a separation between religion and public affairs.
There shouldn't be an exception for Muslims.
They can do whatever they want at home or in the streets but not at work and schools or public offices

It ain’t just this, their secularism of course plays a role however Macron’s administration themselves been too far on the wrong end towards Muslims with nonsense like their separatism law they put out a few years ago. Clearly targeting the Muslim community there. If that ain’t discrimination and prejudice then I don’t know what is. In the age of “human rights” and “liberalism” France’s governmental policies sticks out as the most hypocritical by far in the West.

 

[Logiko]

It ain’t just this, their secularism of course plays a role however Macron’s administration themselves been too far on the wrong end towards Muslims with nonsense like their separatism law they put out a few years ago. Clearly targeting the Muslim community there. If that ain’t discrimination and prejudice then I don’t know what is. In the age of “human rights” and “liberalism” France’s governmental policies sticks out as the most hypocritical by far in the West.

Indeed. Muslims are a systemic target in France.

 

[K!NG HARA$H!MA]

Remember the George Floyd's protests?

BLM got 1 Billion in donation with support and marketing of major corporations even but really nothing changed for blacks.

The BLM founder was busy buying house after house for millions

 

[BangOO🍅]

French protesters telling Prigozhin how to do a coup

 

[Zolo]

French protesters telling Prigozhin how to do a coup

Prigozhin is a bad ass. Im happy it ended the way it did. They need to focus on Ukraine... funny how journalist actually presented him with that idea 5 month ago lol