Controversial General Political Discussion

[Zenos7]

making clay structures doesn't count

Good thing i also mentioned agriculture.

And these clay structures can even have water drain tunnels so their nests dont get flooded when it rains.

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its your loss,then

Yeah im asking for evidence for a soul and you make a super vague "look up supernatural shit" reply. Sorry that im not taking it seriously.

 

[DarkestKnightofSpoilers]

Der Autor der ersten Rezension schreit in seiner Freizeit sicher "WiR sINd Das VoLk" 🤣🤣🤣

Basically he is this

 

[Zenos7]

He's speaking from a biblical perspective I guess

?

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

?

Humans were made in the image of God, they are creators etc
Sounds like biblical references

 

[NAMELESS]

Der Autor der ersten Rezension schreit in seiner Freizeit sicher "WiR sINd Das VoLk" 🤣🤣🤣

The book was written in German for a German audience


He's speaking from a biblical perspective I guess

No,i meant by intellectual achievements. Animals are too rudimentary to be compared to us.

 

[Zenos7]

Humans were made in the image of God, they are creators etc
Sounds like biblical references

So its arrogance based on the ignorance of thousands of years ago?

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No,i meant by intellectual achievements. Animals are too rudimentary to be compared to us.

The japanese optimized their subway system based on a slime mold lmao

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No,i meant by intellectual achievements. Animals are too rudimentary to be compared to us.

Also does this mean you deny humans being animals? Or do you still accept we are animals but think we are special and above other animals?

 

[NAMELESS]

So its arrogance based on the ignorance of thousands of years ago?

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The japanese optimized their subway system based on a slime mold lmao

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Also does this mean you deny humans being animals? Or do you still accept we are animals but think we are special and above other animals?

If by animal you mean biological entity?then yes.But if you think that we have no free will,then i will disagree.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

No,i meant by intellectual achievements. Animals are too rudimentary to be compared to us.

Define intellectual

 

[Zenos7]

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If by animal you mean biological entity?then yes.But if you think that we have no free will,then i will disagree.

Im not settled on free will tbh.

But in abrahamic religions free will is definitely a scam

 

[NAMELESS]

Define intellectual

Science,philosophy,theology,culture and so on.

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Im not settled on free will tbh.

But in abrahamic religions free will is definitely a scam

Also,there is no actual proof that animals can commit suicide.Animals hang on to life despite how bad they are.Humans suicide,because they have self awareness and free will.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Also,there is no actual proof that animals can commit suicide.Animals hang on to life despite how bad they are.Humans suicide,because they ha

Nah there's cases of injured and sick animals in the wild basically allowing themselves to get killed by predators by intentionally walking towards the predator. I'd classify that as suicide

 

[NAMELESS]

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/do-animals-commit-suicide

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But in abrahamic religions free will is definitely a scam

elaborate plz

 

[Zenos7]

Science,philosophy,theology,culture and so on.

Also,there is no actual proof that animals can commit suicide.Animals hang on to life despite how bad they are.Humans suicide,because they have self awareness and free will.

There also isnt actual proof that animals cant commit suicide, which is why that topic is still contested in academia.

And i said consciousness to an extent.

 

[NAMELESS]

There also isnt actual proof that animals cant commit suicide, which is why that topic is still contested in academia.

And i said consciousness to an extent.

Yes,but human suicide is a thing.People can choose.

 

[Zenos7]

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/do-animals-commit-suicide

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elaborate plz

Just a very recent video about agriculture in termites. And leaf cutter ants also do agriculture. Other ants basically have mealy bug farms. . .

 

[NAMELESS]

Just a very recent video about agriculture in termites. And leaf cutter ants also do agriculture. Other ants basically have mealy bug farms. . .

no,explain why free will as described in Abrahamic religions is bs plz

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Just a very recent video about agriculture in termites. And leaf cutter ants also do agriculture. Other ants basically have mealy bug farms. . .

Feeding is a basic instinct.Plenty of animals store food for later.

 

[Zenos7]

no,explain why free will as described in Abrahamic religions is bs plz

Oh, because god either already knows everything or ordains everything, so ultimately its all gods will

 

[NAMELESS]

Oh, because god either already knows everything or ordains everything, so ultimately its all gods will

That is not how it is.God made natural laws and we can't do much about those.People behaving in such ways or making certain life choices is 100% up to them.If God had decided everything for us,there would be no free will at all. Abrahamic religions aren't deterministic at all.

 

[Zenos7]

That is not how it is.God made natural laws and we can't do much about those.People behaving in such ways making certain life choices is 100% up to them.If God had decided everything for us,there would be no free will at all. Abrahamic religions arent deterministic at all.

That is exactly how it is though.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/do-animals-commit-suicide

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elaborate plz

The article contradicts your statement

Also

What Exactly Is Suicide?
It’s a complicated question, made even more so by the fact that we don’t fully understand the complexities of why humans kill themselves

Do acts like ceasing to eat or breath, however self-destructive, actually qualify as suicide?

Peña-Guzman thinks they might, in a sense. “There is a question in the human psychology literature about whether suicide includes only active cases of self-destruction, or whether it also includes cases of passive suicide,” he says. “And I prefer the more inclusive definition, which would describe a case like Flint’s.”