They just not buying into this identity bullshit that undermines biology which people care much more about
People like you or ttransphobe don't care about science. If that was the case you would understand that there are studies about trans and identities. You only care about your own perception and the fear that this perception might be (is) wrong.

And you lashes out at trans people and there identity because of that, creating the perfectly place for oppression. An oppression that kills.
 
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I dont think anyone disagrees with their existence. They just not buying into this identity bullshit that undermines biology which people care much more about
No, Logiko has a point. People want to say "science only plz" until it contradicts their beliefs. Gender dysphoria doesn't go against what we continue to learn about humans
 
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People like you or ttransphobe don't care about science. If that was the case you would understand that there are studies about trans and identities. You only care about your own perception and the fear that this perception might be (is) wrong.

And you lashes out at trans people and there identity because of that, creating the perfectly place for oppression. An oppression that kills.
I care alot about science. Im fine with the identity stuff, but i also value biology much more. And i dont exactly care about the feelings of strangers.

And how am i lashing out?

And trans people arent the only people on the planet being bullied,discriminated,oppressed, yet their suicide rate is crazy high.
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No, Logiko has a point. People want to say "science only plz" until it contradicts their beliefs. Gender dysphoria doesn't go against what we continue to learn about humans
Most people dont care about gender, that was my point. They care about sex. Then you have people who in their native language dont even have the distinction of sex and gender. Im well aware that gender dysphoria is a medical condition, but i will stand by what I said earlier. If random strangers not accepting their self identification/perception results in them committing suicide, then they need professional help.
 
And trans people arent the only people on the planet being bullied,discriminated,oppressed, yet their suicide rate is crazy high.
Yes, because there is a thing called gender disphoria. Something that is intrically related to the way societies and transphobes view trans people and marginalized genders.


Most people dont care about gender, that was my point. They care about sex.
Then those people don't care about science.


their self identification/perception results in them committing suicide, then they need professional help
Yes, a treatment that is related to the acception of one self. Sadly a professionnal doesn't have power on those who don't accept them. And those people and the people who say "I love science but I care about biology first, so who cares about identity" are the problem.
 
I care alot about science. Im fine with the identity stuff, but i also value biology much more. And i dont exactly care about the feelings of strangers.

And how am i lashing out?

And trans people arent the only people on the planet being bullied,discriminated,oppressed, yet their suicide rate is crazy high.
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Most people dont care about gender, that was my point. They care about sex. Then you have people who in their native language dont even have the distinction of sex and gender. Im well aware that gender dysphoria is a medical condition, but i will stand by what I said earlier. If random strangers not accepting their self identification/perception results in them committing suicide, then they need professional help.
Not sure about the subjectivity of "most people" because I realize that the majority of people don't have an objective qualification in things that don't affect them and likely don't generate their desire to form a well rounded perspective. Where I live, people will literally go on about Adam and Eve lol.

And maybe there was some convo I missed if y'all were talking about suicide, but we know in very many cases that it's less about being accepted and more about active persecution.
 
Yes, because there is a thing called gender disphoria. Something that is intrically related to the way societies and transphobes view trans people and marginalized genders.



Then those people don't care about science.



Yes, a treatment that is related to the acception of one self. Sadly a professionnal doesn't have power on those who don't accept them. And those people and the people who say "I love science but I care about biology first, so who cares about identity" are the problem.
How are people who care more about biology among other things stopping trans people from getting professional help?
 
How are people who care more about biology among other things stopping trans people from getting professional help?
Its all a matter of context. In a context where we are talking about trans and there struggle and when we are trying to sensibilize people about the science behind gender studies, saying "I just care about biology and not gender identity" is actually harmfull for the narrative that is trying to help trans people.

Plus saying that trans people need help is straight up transphobe. Those who need help are those who suffer from gender disphoria, something that can be healed by simple gender affirming care, trans in general do not need help so lets stop pathologizing them or things will get ugly real fast.

I hate people who try to pathologize other people.
 
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