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Roo

Roo

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Mathias said:
This kind of statements make no sense to me.
He is both.
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there's a level of malice involved when someone is a racist, even if they don't believe they're doing anything wrong.

Musk is too socially retarded to do that. I think he's easily swayed by whatever anti establishment theory is out there at the time. Reminder before Trump the guy was pretty left winged
 
Fn Lucci

Fn Lucci

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Roo said:
didn't he say "true" to a post saying jews have spread anti white propaganda or something like that?

That is basically white replacement stuff, the tiki torch guys were screaming "jews will not replace us" lol

edit; btw i dont think hes a racist, musk is just a retard
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In the article I linked, the only Tweet they show is something completely different, then they link to a previous article about Tucker Carlson and Matt Gaetz
 
Photon

Photon

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I just found this gem of a website:

palestineremembered.com

From my first read:

In 1938, Ben-Gurion stated the following:

"Almost every [Palestinian] Arab" opposed Zionism, "because he is an Arab, because he is a Muslim, because he dislikes foreigners, and because we are hateful to him in every way." The conflict had lasted thirty years, and was liable "to continue for perhaps hundreds more." This was a "real war, a war of life or death." (Shabtai Teveth, p. 184)
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"[I am] satisfied with part of the country, but on the basis of the assumption that after we build up a strong force following the establishment of the state--we will abolish the partition of the country and we will expand to the whole Land of Israel." (One Palestine Complete, p. 403)
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In 1956, in an oration at the funeral of an Israeli farmer killed by a Palestinian Arab, Moshe Dayan (former Israeli Defense Minister) said the following:

". . . Let us not today fling accusation at the murderers. What cause have we to complain about their fierce hatred to us? For eight years now, they sit in their refugee camps in Gaza, and before their eyes we turn into our homestead the land and villages in which they and their forefathers have lived.

We should demand his blood not from the [Palestinian] Arabs of Gaza but from ourselves. . . . Let us make our reckoning today. We are a generation of settlers, and without the steel helmet and gun barrel, we shall not be able to plant a tree or build a house. . . . Let us not be afraid to see the hatred that accompanies and consumes the lives of hundreds of thousands of [Palestinian] Arabs who sit all around us and wait for the moment when their hands will be able to reach our blood." (Iron Wall, p. 101)
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In 1998, Ehud Barak (former Israeli Defense & Prime Minister) told Ha'aretz's Gideon Levy the following:

"If I were a Palestinian of the right age, I'd eventually join one of the terrorist organizations."
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Next time a retarded pro-Zionist is spewing gibberish about how Israel didn't steal the land or that Israel wanted peace, show them this. I'll try to give it more reading, and i'll share any new information I can find
 
Daniel

Daniel

Tani
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Someone digs info from past sources from way back from sites that record quotes/text from history and this Israel-Palestine conflict involves not just the initial terrorist attack that Hamas did (music festival attack and yes I know about the IDF helicopter attack that killed 7 of their own people) but all of the past grievances between Israel and its neighbouring nations whose primary religion is Islam.

Thus, a war like this is almost guaranteed to have disastrous consequences for one or the other (or both) parties involved.

Some people here may be shocked by the forceful occupation and the retaliation from Israel against Gaza but the actions of Israel I can understand why they do it.

Not that I fully agree with or even condone their "responses", but retaliation and the punishment dealt always hits harder than the initial attack committed by the aggressor.
 
Daniel

Daniel

Tani
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A moment of silence for this man's political career...

Tbh this issue is greatly troubling for me because right now I can't make a firm stance on any actions/motivations related to this conflict except for a couple obvious things...

Remind me of that day when Israel ended up bombing a hospital but you got ppl on the chans calling that incident fake news despite news media sites spreading that incident everywhere.
 
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Photon

Photon

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An overlooked detail:

During 5 years of operation, 232,000 children were sent to Auschwitz concentration camp. Assuming all of them were murdered, around 127 children were killed daily in Auschwitz.[1]

On the other hand, around 5,500 children in Gaza have been killed so far within just 45 days. If we average the number, around 122 children are being killed daily in Gaza. What makes it more disturbing is the fact that this does not count the missing and the critically injured.[2]

And then there are people who claim what is happening in Gaza is not a Genocide by proving that the population in Gaza has increased in the past few years. Well of course because the Genocide didn't happen continuously
 
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