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Like every technological revolution some people are lazy to change to the new work environment. They don't want to learn the new technology and prepare themselves for the new work demands. So yeah it is laziness.
Yup.
In fact it may even benefit the person A since the book is still her (even if person B try to sell like being the author the truth always comes to everyone).
For example here in Brazil we had the best Brazilian production movie called "Tropa de Elite" which people copied and sold way cheaper on the streets.
That allowed to many more Brazilians watch the movie and be fan of it.
When the time "Tropa de Elite 2" came out everyone runned to the cinema to watch it making it one of the best movie audiences we had in Brazil.
When asking some of the producers about it they even admit the second movie wouldn't have made such a success if it wasn't for the piracy on the first movie.
Humanitarian help is getting there. But it is supplying Hamas.
Yeah it is always luck when someone else can do what you can't.
It is luck when someone prevent themselves from going out and wasting their money in superfluous things in order to invest in stocks and in the future you collect the profits of your young age behavior.
It is luck when you decide to drop college/work to start your own business and then succeed.
You just can't say why it is luck. Your argument will probably be because many others try and failed. Well that's your answer for this argument they failed in some point while others succeed.
You know what is luck? In this case bad luck a fucking pandemic going on during your 4 years governament. You know what else is luck? China growing like crazy and then your governament benefits from it without you doing anything. This is luck. Not making your own business and succeeding. No one succeeds with luck.
Social capital what the hell is that for you? Cultural capital as well.
Economic capital.. nowadays we have the cheapest way to make more money that it internet. There are tons of way to make money from it and they are no expensive. For example making a YouTube channel. Maybe you don't get billionaire from it but many doors will open after that.
They can find other things to do. Not sure what jobs you are talking about. I've heard of Hollywood writers that went on a strike and then basically got fired since they didn't wanted to work and now we have AI to do their work(and they were doing a terrible work).
Maybe I didn't expressed myself correctly previously. AI will "steal" jobs but that doesn't mean there won't be created new jobs for them.
If AI work is poor quality why the artist would lose their work in first place? This makes no sense.
And no we don't need regulation. People will decide if they want AI work of artist work.
Israel is not terrorizing anyone. That's Hamas.
Yup.
In fact it may even benefit the person A since the book is still her (even if person B try to sell like being the author the truth always comes to everyone).
For example here in Brazil we had the best Brazilian production movie called "Tropa de Elite" which people copied and sold way cheaper on the streets.
That allowed to many more Brazilians watch the movie and be fan of it.
When the time "Tropa de Elite 2" came out everyone runned to the cinema to watch it making it one of the best movie audiences we had in Brazil.
When asking some of the producers about it they even admit the second movie wouldn't have made such a success if it wasn't for the piracy on the first movie.
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Humanitarian help is getting there. But it is supplying Hamas.
Yeah it is always luck when someone else can do what you can't.
It is luck when someone prevent themselves from going out and wasting their money in superfluous things in order to invest in stocks and in the future you collect the profits of your young age behavior.
It is luck when you decide to drop college/work to start your own business and then succeed.
You just can't say why it is luck. Your argument will probably be because many others try and failed. Well that's your answer for this argument they failed in some point while others succeed.
You know what is luck? In this case bad luck a fucking pandemic going on during your 4 years governament. You know what else is luck? China growing like crazy and then your governament benefits from it without you doing anything. This is luck. Not making your own business and succeeding. No one succeeds with luck.
Social capital what the hell is that for you? Cultural capital as well.
Economic capital.. nowadays we have the cheapest way to make more money that it internet. There are tons of way to make money from it and they are no expensive. For example making a YouTube channel. Maybe you don't get billionaire from it but many doors will open after that.
They can find other things to do. Not sure what jobs you are talking about. I've heard of Hollywood writers that went on a strike and then basically got fired since they didn't wanted to work and now we have AI to do their work(and they were doing a terrible work).
Maybe I didn't expressed myself correctly previously. AI will "steal" jobs but that doesn't mean there won't be created new jobs for them.
If AI work is poor quality why the artist would lose their work in first place? This makes no sense.
And no we don't need regulation. People will decide if they want AI work of artist work.
Israel is not terrorizing anyone. That's Hamas.
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Not wanting to adapt to harmful changes is not "laziness"
Plus you're talking about "new work demands" as if they were a natural entity when it's just rich humans forcing shit onto others. Work cannot "demand" anything 🤣
Now this is indeed a very tricky situation, it's the same that happened with the manga and anime industry that only became successful in the West because of piracy. I think we must differentiate between big intellectual properties and smaller independent creators whether copying their work without authorisation is ethical or not BUT if we got rid of all copyright laws overnight what would happen is that small creators are going to be screws over even more than they already are. Do you have any idea how many successful movies and songs are based on content stolen from artist that never get any recognition and nobody has ever heard of them?
Plus you're talking about "new work demands" as if they were a natural entity when it's just rich humans forcing shit onto others. Work cannot "demand" anything 🤣
Now this is indeed a very tricky situation, it's the same that happened with the manga and anime industry that only became successful in the West because of piracy. I think we must differentiate between big intellectual properties and smaller independent creators whether copying their work without authorisation is ethical or not BUT if we got rid of all copyright laws overnight what would happen is that small creators are going to be screws over even more than they already are. Do you have any idea how many successful movies and songs are based on content stolen from artist that never get any recognition and nobody has ever heard of them?
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It is laziness when you complain about it and there is no harmful changes when society is improving productivity.
Dude so trapped into rich vs poor agenda... It is not rich humans forcing shit onto others. It is evolution. Anyone can make your own AI just like there is open-source projects being developed. You don't have to be rich to be part of the evolution.
In every industry we basically have the big guys lobbying and pushing regulations to prevent smaller guys to take space from them. They don't wanna share. That's why big companies are usually so tied with governament. I believe I shared here the history of Heinz right? The ketchup that lobby to get rid 90% of his competitors that were using the same ingredient than him.
And since you are talking about smaller artists being stolen from bigger artists isn't that copyright law protecting the bigger artists now? If there wasn't such law the smaller artist could profit from such song that was stolen without any problems but now if they do they will be criminal?
The truth is that all those protections do more harm than good. Another example is the Xbox vs Playstation "war". Playstation 2 specially was much more famous than any Xbox competitor that had at time (I have no idea of what it was IF there was any) because of piracy. And then it seems PS3 was harder to do such piracy but then it was easier on Xbox 360 therefore it became more famous (even with die hard fans of PS series like me).
Dude so trapped into rich vs poor agenda... It is not rich humans forcing shit onto others. It is evolution. Anyone can make your own AI just like there is open-source projects being developed. You don't have to be rich to be part of the evolution.
In every industry we basically have the big guys lobbying and pushing regulations to prevent smaller guys to take space from them. They don't wanna share. That's why big companies are usually so tied with governament. I believe I shared here the history of Heinz right? The ketchup that lobby to get rid 90% of his competitors that were using the same ingredient than him.
And since you are talking about smaller artists being stolen from bigger artists isn't that copyright law protecting the bigger artists now? If there wasn't such law the smaller artist could profit from such song that was stolen without any problems but now if they do they will be criminal?
The truth is that all those protections do more harm than good. Another example is the Xbox vs Playstation "war". Playstation 2 specially was much more famous than any Xbox competitor that had at time (I have no idea of what it was IF there was any) because of piracy. And then it seems PS3 was harder to do such piracy but then it was easier on Xbox 360 therefore it became more famous (even with die hard fans of PS series like me).
If you say rightfull things, there is no reasons for me to disagree with you. 
Just keep them going..
No evidences of that.
No, its the combinaison of the four factors, not just luck.
This one is more due to cultural and economic capital
Cultural + economic + Social capital. Not everyone can afford to do that.
I told you, you choosed to ignore.
Its not just luck. Its:
Luck
+ Social capital
+ Cultural capital
+ Economic capital
Read what I say before posting please.
You mean, the pandemic that was denied by trump, the Pandemic's vaccine that Trump try to prevent the population from getting ? This pandemic ?
Social, cultural and economic (+symbolic) capital are sociological terms that allows us to understand how people from different culture and classes in society can end up where they are beginning with childhood and a way to contextualize and question the myth of meritocracy:
Here is a quick video to understand those four notion.
What you need to understand is that we are not equal in term of opportunities in life. We live are educated in environment with different forms of those capitals. And society doesn't adjust to equate those with lesser capital than others which creates inequalities. Therefore rich people are not rich because they worked hard, but because they were educated and had access to those form of capital and luck.
That's their F*CKING JOBS, their dreams and their lives you are talking about you ignorant. No they should not have to find other things to do, they should be able to live from what they want to do in life.
Are you freaking sane ??
In a future utopia maybe. But NOT in our current society were people need to live from their art.
It makes no sence because you don't know how the industry work.
If you believe that all producers and marketing strategists are seeking quality, you are completely mistaken !
Its not the case of all, but some (that will use AI) are just interested in selling product that people have already seen before. They are not interested in originality but efficiency and profit.
So hiring just a few people that will work on trained AI instead of hiring quantities of qualitative artist is the best solution for them to make good profit as they will have access to the work of those artists anyway in their databanks.
Gladly, this is not up to you.
And AI work is ARTIST WORK. Again, you listenned and understood NOTHING to what I explained.
You are ignorant about the subject, just move away.
Israel is not terrorizing anyone except the entire population of Gaza..
Damn, you really have bigoted, awfull and ignorant takes on everything.
Dude, you are not rich, stop defending them.
Just keep them going..
No evidences of that.
No, its the combinaison of the four factors, not just luck.
This one is more due to cultural and economic capital
Cultural + economic + Social capital. Not everyone can afford to do that.
I told you, you choosed to ignore.
Its not just luck. Its:
Luck
+ Social capital
+ Cultural capital
+ Economic capital
Read what I say before posting please.
You mean, the pandemic that was denied by trump, the Pandemic's vaccine that Trump try to prevent the population from getting ? This pandemic ?
Social, cultural and economic (+symbolic) capital are sociological terms that allows us to understand how people from different culture and classes in society can end up where they are beginning with childhood and a way to contextualize and question the myth of meritocracy:
Here is a quick video to understand those four notion.
What you need to understand is that we are not equal in term of opportunities in life. We live are educated in environment with different forms of those capitals. And society doesn't adjust to equate those with lesser capital than others which creates inequalities. Therefore rich people are not rich because they worked hard, but because they were educated and had access to those form of capital and luck.
That's their F*CKING JOBS, their dreams and their lives you are talking about you ignorant. No they should not have to find other things to do, they should be able to live from what they want to do in life.
Are you freaking sane ??
In a future utopia maybe. But NOT in our current society were people need to live from their art.
It makes no sence because you don't know how the industry work.
If you believe that all producers and marketing strategists are seeking quality, you are completely mistaken !
Its not the case of all, but some (that will use AI) are just interested in selling product that people have already seen before. They are not interested in originality but efficiency and profit.
So hiring just a few people that will work on trained AI instead of hiring quantities of qualitative artist is the best solution for them to make good profit as they will have access to the work of those artists anyway in their databanks.
Gladly, this is not up to you.
And AI work is ARTIST WORK. Again, you listenned and understood NOTHING to what I explained.
You are ignorant about the subject, just move away.
Israel is not terrorizing anyone except the entire population of Gaza..
Damn, you really have bigoted, awfull and ignorant takes on everything.
Dude, you are not rich, stop defending them.
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If you say rightfull things, there is no reasons for me to disagree with you.
Just keep them going..
No evidences of that.
No, its the combinaison of the four factors, not just luck.
This one is more due to cultural and economic capital
Cultural + economic + Social capital. Not everyone can afford to do that.
I told you, you choosed to ignore.
Its not just luck. Its:
Luck
+ Social capital
+ Cultural capital
+ Economic capital
Read what I say before posting please.
You mean, the pandemic that was denied by trump, the Pandemic's vaccine that Trump try to prevent the population from getting ? This pandemic ?
Social, cultural and economic (+symbolic) capital are sociological terms that allows us to understand how people from different culture and classes in society can end up where they are beginning with childhood and a way to contextualize and question the myth of meritocracy:
Here is a quick video to understand those four notion.
What you need to understand is that we are not equal in term of opportunities in life. We live are educated in environment with different forms of those capitals. And society doesn't adjust to equate those with lesser capital than others which creates inequalities. Therefore rich people are not rich because they worked hard, but because they were educated and had access to those form of capital and luck.
That's their F*CKING JOBS, their dreams and their lives you are talking about you ignorant. No they should not have to find other things to do, they should be able to live from what they want to do in life.
Are you freaking sane ??
In a future utopia maybe. But NOT in our current society were people need to live from their art.
It makes no sence because you don't know how the industry work.
If you believe that all producers and marketing strategists are seeking quality, you are completely mistaken !
Its not the case of all, but some (that will use AI) are just interested in selling product that people have already seen before. They are not interested in originality but efficiency and profit.
So hiring just a few people that will work on trained AI instead of hiring quantities of qualitative artist is the best solution for them to make good profit as they will have access to the work of those artists anyway in their databanks.
Gladly, this is not up to you.
And AI work is ARTIST WORK. Again, you listenned and understood NOTHING to what I explained.
You are ignorant about the subject, just move away.
Israel is not terrorizing anyone except the entire population of Gaza..
Damn, you really have bigoted, awfull and ignorant takes on everything.
Dude, you are not rich, stop defending them.
Just keep them going..
No evidences of that.
No, its the combinaison of the four factors, not just luck.
This one is more due to cultural and economic capital
Cultural + economic + Social capital. Not everyone can afford to do that.
I told you, you choosed to ignore.
Its not just luck. Its:
Luck
+ Social capital
+ Cultural capital
+ Economic capital
Read what I say before posting please.
You mean, the pandemic that was denied by trump, the Pandemic's vaccine that Trump try to prevent the population from getting ? This pandemic ?
Social, cultural and economic (+symbolic) capital are sociological terms that allows us to understand how people from different culture and classes in society can end up where they are beginning with childhood and a way to contextualize and question the myth of meritocracy:
Here is a quick video to understand those four notion.
What you need to understand is that we are not equal in term of opportunities in life. We live are educated in environment with different forms of those capitals. And society doesn't adjust to equate those with lesser capital than others which creates inequalities. Therefore rich people are not rich because they worked hard, but because they were educated and had access to those form of capital and luck.
That's their F*CKING JOBS, their dreams and their lives you are talking about you ignorant. No they should not have to find other things to do, they should be able to live from what they want to do in life.
Are you freaking sane ??
In a future utopia maybe. But NOT in our current society were people need to live from their art.
It makes no sence because you don't know how the industry work.
If you believe that all producers and marketing strategists are seeking quality, you are completely mistaken !
Its not the case of all, but some (that will use AI) are just interested in selling product that people have already seen before. They are not interested in originality but efficiency and profit.
So hiring just a few people that will work on trained AI instead of hiring quantities of qualitative artist is the best solution for them to make good profit as they will have access to the work of those artists anyway in their databanks.
Gladly, this is not up to you.
And AI work is ARTIST WORK. Again, you listenned and understood NOTHING to what I explained.
You are ignorant about the subject, just move away.
Israel is not terrorizing anyone except the entire population of Gaza..
Damn, you really have bigoted, awfull and ignorant takes on everything.
Dude, you are not rich, stop defending them.
Do you know the definition of lazy?
Complaining about things ≠ laziness
So
Ai=evolved
People who don't use ai=primitive?
according to you?
You're mixing so many factors together after you chopped them into unrecognizable pieces and then you serve it as a smoothie.
One of the worst expressions ever invented
A brain? What is that? Are we supposed to have one?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Complaining about things ≠ laziness
So
Ai=evolved
People who don't use ai=primitive?
according to you?
You're mixing so many factors together after you chopped them into unrecognizable pieces and then you serve it as a smoothie.
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One of the worst expressions ever invented
A brain? What is that? Are we supposed to have one?🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
That's why state is the monopoly of violence. In the concept of "state of nature", before the existence of society the violence was decentralized. The emergence of the first societies that created the monopoly. And this monopoly makes it possible to create laws and rights. That's why state violence is legitimate. But that doesn't mean it's moral. States can take immoral actions
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Alright Mr. No Evidences
https://x.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1734120838008336492?s=20
I was talking more about Bolsonaro but I guess you are wrong about Trump denying pandemics and vaccines just like everything else.
Timeline of Trump’s Coronavirus Responses | Congressman Lloyd Doggett (house.gov)
Thanks I wasn't aware of those terms.
Yes they are very true. Of course no one has equal opportunities. Since we are talking about all those capitals why not Gene/DNA capital too? Someone that just borned with blessed genes? A genius? Or someone that is very good in an specific area that allows the person to grind in society/economics better than others? Athletes for example.
Yes the world is not fair but that doesn't mean you don't have meritocracy.
I have a very good example right in my family. My grandad by my dad's part used to living on the streets as young boy. Therefore he didn't had any of those capitals you are talking about (probably we can say he had the gene capital I talked about) yet he managed to study and grind on himself and became very successful. So meritocracy DOES exist. Of course if he born in a better family with more economic capital, culture capital and social capital chances are he is doing even far better although not 100% guarantee since we have people who born in what we call "cradle of gold" in Brazil yet they managed to lose all the things their ancestors did.
When cars were invented people had jobs using charretes to travel people around places. They lost their job. Will you ask for us to abolish cars so those people have their jobs back?
They managed to work with other stuff. And this time will be no different. What you are defending here is ridiculous. If technology took out your job find something else to do. It is said that Unrwa while many other entities purposefully wants to maintain Middle East conflicts constantly happening because once solved those people would be jobless. This is exactly what you are doing.
No. Not utopia or future. Right now! You don't work on what you want to work. You work on what people pay you for work. If no one wants to pay you for your art. Find another thing to do. All advanced technologies were always like that. People complained about losing jobs while others were created and society improved as a whole despite the crying.
Or because you are talking random things without understanding what you are talking and just end up being incoherent with your sayings.
What dictates are people. If people wants to buy what they already saw and wants to buy AI material is up to them not to you to say what people will or will not consume.
Yup the whole process of technology is to overtaken human job so human are FREE to do other things. If wasn't like that we would be all still hunting and gathering until today. But you are not complaining about machines taking human jobs on farms and allowing those 8 billion people around the world to be fed.
You are the ignorante here. You blame AI work is artist work because of the training that AI needs but forget that the artist also needed training (GUESS WHAT?) FROM OTHER ARTISTS that are not being paid for their profit. So you are just a hipocryte at the end.
That's Hamas job.
I don't want to be poor that's why I'm defending them. Go to Cuba dude. They are applying everything you preach for there. Except being reasonable with gays because communists are homophobics.
https://x.com/i24NEWS_EN/status/1734120838008336492?s=20
I was talking more about Bolsonaro but I guess you are wrong about Trump denying pandemics and vaccines just like everything else.
Timeline of Trump’s Coronavirus Responses | Congressman Lloyd Doggett (house.gov)
Thanks I wasn't aware of those terms.
Yes they are very true. Of course no one has equal opportunities. Since we are talking about all those capitals why not Gene/DNA capital too? Someone that just borned with blessed genes? A genius? Or someone that is very good in an specific area that allows the person to grind in society/economics better than others? Athletes for example.
Yes the world is not fair but that doesn't mean you don't have meritocracy.
I have a very good example right in my family. My grandad by my dad's part used to living on the streets as young boy. Therefore he didn't had any of those capitals you are talking about (probably we can say he had the gene capital I talked about) yet he managed to study and grind on himself and became very successful. So meritocracy DOES exist. Of course if he born in a better family with more economic capital, culture capital and social capital chances are he is doing even far better although not 100% guarantee since we have people who born in what we call "cradle of gold" in Brazil yet they managed to lose all the things their ancestors did.
When cars were invented people had jobs using charretes to travel people around places. They lost their job. Will you ask for us to abolish cars so those people have their jobs back?
They managed to work with other stuff. And this time will be no different. What you are defending here is ridiculous. If technology took out your job find something else to do. It is said that Unrwa while many other entities purposefully wants to maintain Middle East conflicts constantly happening because once solved those people would be jobless. This is exactly what you are doing.
No. Not utopia or future. Right now! You don't work on what you want to work. You work on what people pay you for work. If no one wants to pay you for your art. Find another thing to do. All advanced technologies were always like that. People complained about losing jobs while others were created and society improved as a whole despite the crying.
Or because you are talking random things without understanding what you are talking and just end up being incoherent with your sayings.
What dictates are people. If people wants to buy what they already saw and wants to buy AI material is up to them not to you to say what people will or will not consume.
Yup the whole process of technology is to overtaken human job so human are FREE to do other things. If wasn't like that we would be all still hunting and gathering until today. But you are not complaining about machines taking human jobs on farms and allowing those 8 billion people around the world to be fed.
You are the ignorante here. You blame AI work is artist work because of the training that AI needs but forget that the artist also needed training (GUESS WHAT?) FROM OTHER ARTISTS that are not being paid for their profit. So you are just a hipocryte at the end.
Israel is not terrorizing anyone except the entire population of Gaza..
Damn, you really have bigoted, awfull and ignorant takes on everything.
Damn, you really have bigoted, awfull and ignorant takes on everything.
I don't want to be poor that's why I'm defending them. Go to Cuba dude. They are applying everything you preach for there. Except being reasonable with gays because communists are homophobics.
He wants racists towards other black revolutionaires. Said they were good for nothings and stuff.
There is no such think as monopoly on violence. Self defense is a human right. It doesn't matter if the gov says otherwise. You can't take away from people what is in their nature to protect their dignity.
centralization of law and violence is a better definition that monopoly imo
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There is no such think as monopoly on violence. Self defense is a human right. It doesn't matter if the gov says otherwise. You can't take away from people what is in their nature to protect their dignity.
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centralization of law and violence is a better definition that monopoly imo
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