I m saying the teachings are flawed themselves

dreams are meaningless
Are you saying that the teachings are flawed because people contradict them in action?,

And as for dreams, some are spiritual experiences, some aren't, but a dream in the spirit isn't the only type of spiritual experience someone can have,
 
I think it's pretty strange to have a physicalist view of the world though when you are aware, you are real, you exist, and your body is part of you, but you are somewhere beyond it, you actively experience and are alive and aware and exist, in theory physicalism is talked about, but how is your awareness and how are you just a group of objects put together a certain way, I don't think you are,
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Like really look at yourself and how alive you are, things aren't, but you are, you have an actual non physical experience that comes from above the physical and interacts with it but is not a physical thing,
 

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Are you saying that the teachings are flawed because people contradict them in action?,
what do you mean by contradicting action??

I m saying the teachings of the holy books are unfair towards women and the LGBTQ+ community

btw no offense to any religion
And as for dreams, some are spiritual experiences, some aren't, but a dream in the spirit isn't the only type of spiritual experience someone can have,
lol there's no such thing but if you believe that then good
 
I do not hate christians. In fact I never hated any believers, not even now.

As for christiannity, no groups are oppressed in the west because they are christian. However, it's the case for others like Muslims. So yeah, I will not treat the attacks on both religion the same way.

It's called having a rationnal and sociological approach of domination relationships
I think it's pretty strange to have a physicalist view of the world though when you are aware, you are real, you exist, and your body is part of you, but you are somewhere beyond it, you actively experience and are alive and aware and exist, in theory physicalism is talked about, but how is your awareness and how are you just a group of objects put together a certain way, I don't think you are,
For me, consciousness is a result. An illusion created by matter. I know I exist as a result but I also know that this result is the product of material conditions.
 
what do you mean by contradicting action??

I m saying the teachings of the holy books are unfair towards women and the LGBTQ+ community

btw no offense to any religion

lol there's no such thing but if you believe that then good
Does the holy book that they follow say to do what they do, or does it say otherwise?,

I do not hate christians. In fact I never hated any believers, not even now.

As for christiannity, no groups are oppressed in the west because they are christian. However, it's the case for others like Muslims. So yeah, I will not treat the attacks on both religion the same way.

It's called having a rationnal and sociological approach of domination relationships

For me, consciousness is a result. An illusion created by matter. I know I exist as a result but I also know that this result is the product of material conditions.
Well, do you consider your experience a physical thing?,
 

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You can do it! And you will!!!
Alex Jones, is that you? There is this concept of Hungry Ghosts in Buddishm/Hinduism(don't quote me on that), did you hear about it? They are basically what you described: Energy Vampires.
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Jinns are basically Islam's spin on Angels.
I have heard about the Hungry Ghosts.

The issue is that people think you have to be a certain race, or something, to fall. No, anyone can be susceptible to this shit.

Everyone is capable of being good, or evil. Obviously, your environment, upbringing, and past lives effect a lot, but, still; everyone has the choice to help those around them, or hurt them.

Anyone can become evil. We spend so much time struggling against others, when our greatest enemy is often ourselves.

Hell, I've caught myself being an energy vampire, and attacking people to make myself feel better about myself. It's way too easy to do.

The voice in your head, saying "Hey, why not hurt them? Why not steal it? Why should you suffer, but not them?" That's Satan, whatever the hell you want to call that shit.

People think I hate spirituality, no, I hate religion because it raped my baby cock and wanted me to murder innocent people to make rich trash more oil money.

Yeah, Jinn are just Angels. Same concept: the same, race, with some number respecting and loving the creator, and the other side rebelling to try to rule the world and take it over. The Demons in Judeo Christian Mythology are literally fallen Angels.

Hell, I always thought hating Evolution was dumb, just because humans are literally devolved Angels, according to the Abrahamic religions (this is accurate, too, in the sense that humanity has lost a SHIT TON of DNA due to various calamities/entropy over time. We've lost so much DNA in the last 13,000 years).

I believe in/love Jesus, I'm so sick of people here acting like I hate God/Jesus, when I hate religion.

Jesus didn't teach me and Hitler we should kill gay people, I hate religion, I love Jesus and Mary.
 

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You can do it! And you will!!!
let me give an example Islam says a woman shouldn't step outside the house unless she is in need and covered in cloths from head to to toe

now tell me should we follow this??
No being should ever be punished for how their body looks, to me.

I really love people who think insects are cute (a lot of insects scare the shit out of me). We don't control how we look, to a great extent.

Humans need to wear clothing in public because it's distracting to see a bunch of boobs, dicks, and ballsacks bouncing all over the place. We could not get work done if we were all walking around naked, we're just too immature as a species (hell, look at me).

As long as humans are wearing enough clothing to hide their parts that arouse others, there is absolutely no reason to go after them.

Women should be able to wear tank tops and sports bras in the summer without freaks harassing them. Men should be able to wear skirts/kilts if it helps them from getting swamp-ass.

Women don't wear skimpy clothing in summer to attract weirdos. It's because it's fucking hot out, and they want to feel the wind on their skin, and be able to have their sweat evaporate.

I hate how religion blames women for people abusing them. We used to kill women because they had too many moles.
 
no angels are basically another race who are made of light and are servants of god
Suposedly they are different, but when we compare the capabilities of Angel with a Dijnn, they are pretty much the same thing.
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no, angels are still a thing in islam.
I didn't know about that...now that i remember it, Mohamed was supposedly visited by the Angel Gabriel.
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No being should ever be punished for how their body looks, to me.

I really love people who think insects are cute (a lot of insects scare the shit out of me). We don't control how we look, to a great extent.

Humans need to wear clothing in public because it's distracting to see a bunch of boobs, dicks, and ballsacks bouncing all over the place. We could not get work done if we were all walking around naked, we're just too immature as a species (hell, look at me).

As long as humans are wearing enough clothing to hide their parts that arouse others, there is absolutely no reason to go after them.

Women should be able to wear tank tops and sports bras in the summer without freaks harassing them. Men should be able to wear skirts/kilts if it helps them from getting swamp-ass.

Women don't wear skimpy clothing in summer to attract weirdos. It's because it's fucking hot out, and they want to feel the wind on their skin, and be able to have their sweat evaporate.

I hate how religion blames women for people abusing them. We used to kill women because they had too many moles.
That arousal is more culture related than anything else. Native Americans barely wear clothing.
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Well, do you consider your experience a physical thing?,
A product of a physical thing.

Just like an idea is a product of physical interactions in the brain, my experiences are the product of the interactions beween every results producted by matter in my brain : Memory, consciousness etc.

My experience is a real physical product of the interactions between real matter, but it is an illusion as an object of study.
 
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These stories are horrific. I know most of you only care about trolling and triggering the wokies and the libs but this is fucking real life. The Biden administration is complicit and directly responsible for all these deaths, and now we have an administration coming in that is even more committed to this genocide. We're the bad guys, there's no way around it.

 

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A product of a physical thing.

Just like an idea is a product of physical interactions in the brain, my experiences are the product of the interactions beween every results producted by matter in my brain : Memory, consciousness etc.

My experience is a real physical product of the interactions between real matter, but it is an illusion as an object of study.
It's kind of interesting to note that you have strong opinions on things and as far as you are concerned I feel those opinions are filtered in your eyes through Socrates Dialectical process.

Those opinions are true or false are totally different matter but having such abiltiy is in itself remarkable.

Though after such process people often end up getting rigid on their opinions so if you can overcome this or find a way to not it affect you then I think you would do great in real life
 
It's kind of interesting to note that you have strong opinions on things and as far as you are concerned I feel those opinions are filtered in your eyes through Socrates Dialectical process.

Those opinions are true or false are totally different matter but having such abiltiy is in itself remarkable.

Though after such process people often end up getting rigid on their opinions so if you can overcome this or find a way to not it affect you then I think you would do great in real life
Interesting. I didn't know that this process had a name. I think trying to deconstruct a concept in its most basic components is the most efficient way to make someone understand it.

Little bio moment because I think it's interesting to understand why I do that:

I applied that to me first. As far as I can remember, I've been obsessed with the nature of reality and since my studient years I've been obsessed with one thing : seeking the truth in all its aspect.

This process led me to complotism, it got me out of it, it then led me to far right ideas and got me out of it etc. for all the beliefs and knowledge I encountered.

I remember being a studient and having a pitch black vision of reality and everything surrounding it. I simply did not understand the world. Despite my education, everythink looked like a neverending maze with a magical like inaccessible knowledge at the center.
Flashforward to this day: I've never seen things I care about that clearer. Art, societies, politics, reality, science, One Piece etc.. For about a year or two, I have been living with the feeling of a subtle illumination : I know that I don't know, but I know that I'm close to knowing.

All of that was thanks to this process : At everypoint, I approached reality like an art study : Instead of trying to complexify things, I tried to simplify them.

You see, I have a flaw. For some reason, books are afraid of me. So I can't rely on them to gather knowledge. So what do I do to evolve ? Well...

I seek conflicts. Because where there is conflict, there is a form of truth.

So, everytime I start to get a little bit rigid in a position about something in our reality, I hang on a conflict that involves the position I'm in against a position I never encountered before or never got rid of. Then, instead of taking side, I spend days or month deconstructing all the most basic elements that create the conflict for the opposing side, I put all the elements I have deconstructed in the past(that I know are solid) and I try to judge which is the most rationnal approach based on a baby approach.

For ex: At one point a few years ago, I had very liberal and someone reactionnaries ideas about politics, self development and Islam. I was critic to the religion to a point were I was going a bit Islamophobic and yet I was calling myself a leftist at the time. But... people like me were called out by leftists... so there was a conflict and since I was becoming rigid in my beliefs, I thought that it was the time to start understanding and judging the vision of those leftists.

So.. I went quiet. I stopped talking and listened. And at this time, the left on twitter was starting to voice strongly their opinion on skeptics. And it was very similar to what I was facing. So I listened.

And this is were I learned about something I wasn't aware of : Sociology. I literally had no knowledge of this scientific field (for systemic reasons).

So I started to deconstruct the basic ideas behind this field of knowledge : Materialism, the structures that create societies, the notions of systemic oppressions etc.

And in the blink of a eye, the hatred I had of Islam faded away the moment I understood that the problem were not religions but the capitalist and patriarcal systems that created them. It took me a few month of deonctruction and simplifying each values to the most basic elements but I managed to understand bit by bit a radical leftist knowledge without ever opening a single book.

Of course, the flaw of this process is that I can't speak about the history or the personnalities behind the knowledge I have, but the knowledge itself is clear as crystal.

I know that I will never go back toward far rightism but I also know that there are still things to understand and therefore a potential radicalization toward the left.

So as you can see, I managed to find a way to prevent any rigidity in my thinking process. And this is also the reason why I'm so assured here. Pretty much all the knowledge I'm sharing are things that I had to understand and weight myself on a scale against other beliefs systems or preconceived certainties and I know that I'm at a point where there is very little knowledge left to understand in all of my field of care.

It just seems like this knowledge is not possible for me to share at this moment.

Thanks for the compliment anyway. :)
 
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