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The funniest grift in the world, is the people/bots who told me Kamala wanted civil war.

No, the people who want to bring back slavery want civil war, because their child-slave-raping ancestors couldn't handle picking the cotton themselves in the damn first place.

The same kind of losers who started the Civil War want a new one, because Trumpty Dumpty doesn't want to fall off his Border Wall and go to Prison where the real Traffickers belong.

But, hey.

I guess some Trump supporters just hate drug traffickers more than child sex traffickers. At least, that's how they vote.

Oh wait, I forgot Musk was drugged up like he was a college student at Woodstock in the Whitehouse, before Trumpty Dumpty kicked him out over posting about Trumpty Dumpty trafficking child sex slaves, whooops, I forgot

The Republicans are fine with drugs and drug traffickers, as long as those drug traffickers support Trumpty Dumpty's child sex trafficking

Fascist and freaky frauds.
 
I believe women without the need of proof and I think we should all do that
This is ridiculously insane. Not even Sanji was ever this kind of simp

We don't need proof to judge a situation
This is sick. You are the worst and dumbest kind of dictator.

Never better

Just more politicized in term of ethical awereness about the domination of the world. And I'm not alone, I'm including with me, Blax, Mathias, Toby, Jew and other leftists here.
AKA I know better than you because I'm a leftist. By the way, you are the person who are not aware that muslims literally want to take over the world.

You are talking to a fan of science fiction who think we will one day be able to live forever inside computer worlds with a complete understanding of the universe and more.
This is another proof how you don't understand science and humans as well. This sentence has nothing to do with science. You can be fan of whatever you want and believe in whatever utopia you want. What you are fan of, what utopia you crave for, has nothing to do with science.

You have no idea how much I believe in our scientific potential. I will surprise you at every turn on this, and points you toward a vision of the universe so strange and extraordinary that you call me a delusionnal dreamer on the very first sentence.
You are totally againt science. For you we'd be living in stone age or even before that just to prevent any kind of job to go instinct. You literally said people from ancient times lived better than us while fighting for their lives to get their food everyday, running from predators, not being able to treat from simple diseases that we don't even bother nowadays, and not being aware of poisonous living beings, gases etc.

What you described to me when I asked you about the future of your system (I'm still waiting a reply btw) is something that I was imagining when I was 19 while crafting my worlds. But to make things realistic, I had to understand how the world actually works. And believing blindly in the potential of technology and unlimited ressources is not just naive, it's dangerous.
I already replied. I won't reply again if you don't accepted my answer because it won't change.

You have low to zero understanding of how the world works. And I'm being polite to not say your understanding is actually negative.

I never said about unlimited resources.
 
In that fascism is anti capitalist, but only in a limited sense.
Fascism is in between. As fascism maintains some elements of capitalism while opposing others. Whereas socialism and communism want to abolish capitalism altogether.
Absolutely and utterly : NO

Fascism is PURELY capitalist
. And historically placed at the far right of the political spectrum.

Fascism is literally what Capitalism can do when there is no barrier (libertarianism) and when they are reactionnary values added to the mix.

For exemple, Eugenism, is an extention of ableism that also exist and is pushed by fascism.

Fascism is a perfect product of capitalism.


Fascism is in a very technical way Centrism yes
Centrist like Merkel and Third Wayers get very insecure when it's pointed out that their rhetorics is similar to Early Fascists
No, it's far right. The reason why centrists are pointed out, is because the current rightistist in Europe (Merkel, Macron) are leaning far right. There is nothing "centrist" about Fascism.

But historically, it is a fact that fascism was allowed to pass because of the bourgeoisie. Simply because fascism has the same interest.


I want everyone to be more well off. Your Conflating Maga to be one with all Millionaires/Billionaires.
I don't see any bitching about the Leftist Billionaries/Millionaries. *Bernie as well.
There can't be a billionnaire leftist. Millionnaire yes as it's much more easy to do.

Maybe we should ALL look for the difference between 1 million and 1 billion
(don't worry, we don't have to watch all the video):



This is ridiculously insane. Not even Sanji was ever this kind of simp
If you can't believe a woman that tells you that she was raped, then trust me.
I'm not the problem.


This is sick. You are the worst and dumbest kind of dictator.
Saying this while completely ignoring a scenario where the option of not needing proof to judge is wild. But since you are using bad faith, here is a clearer exemple for you:

If a man kills another man in front of you. You don't have to wait for the delivering of a justice tribunal to call the man a murderer.

This is what not needing justice to judge means.


AKA I know better than you because I'm a leftist. By the way, you are the person who are not aware that muslims literally want to take over the world.
I will ignore this for your sake.


This is another proof how you don't understand science and humans as well. This sentence has nothing to do with science. You can be fan of whatever you want and believe in whatever utopia you want. What you are fan of, what utopia you crave for, has nothing to do with science.
Your world has nothing to do with science mate, I'm very sorry. I'm trying to be respectfull but don't push the buttons here.

Learn about science, leanr about SOCIAL science too and then you will come back to me to try to lecture me about science.


You are totally againt science. For you we'd be living in stone age or even before that just to prevent any kind of job to go instinct. You literally said people from ancient times lived better than us while fighting for their lives to get their food everyday, running from predators, not being able to treat from simple diseases that we don't even bother nowadays, and not being aware of poisonous living beings, gases etc.
Never said "lived better". I said that there are things that were better, like for example, the distributions of tasks.

You are confusing everything I say while purpusely ignoring 50% of the actual content.. which is really starting to bug me off at the moment since I'm doing major effort to be nice.



I already replied. I won't reply again if you don't accepted my answer because it won't change.

You have low to zero understanding of how the world works. And I'm being polite to not say your understanding is actually negative.

I never said about unlimited resources.
I checked TWICE everything.

No you didn't. You ignored the entire paragraph


Here it is again :


I will not talk about all the magic thinking about technology you are displaying to solve all your problems in your system, I wanna concentrate on the real stuff: You are talking about the fact that I lack nuance. Why not. And to explain that you are invoking the fact that the world is is not only about being rich, it's about wealth, knowledge, informations or even luck.

This is good, because you are talking here about something scientifics call "capitals", without entering in the detail right now (it's will be for another discussion I think) Capitals are composed of different factors that are economic, social and cultural. And you are right in the sense that those capitals are what push us toward wealth and health and overall a potential happyness

Now, here comes my interrogation:

No matter how lucky or knowledgeable you are in your world, one's financial wealth will ALWAYS get first access to ressources and technologies, and will always remain the main potential gatekeeper. As long as someone can block access to key resources, you cannot compete with an absolute monopoly, no matter if it’s a city block wide or the size of an entire galaxy !

All the luck or knowledge in the world doesn’t change that. Your system is still black and white: there are those who get there first, and everyone else.

As such... If financial wealth always allow the controls and access of key ressources and key assets & can allow people to create infinite needs and robotic or human exploitation, how do you prevent someone from monopolizing everything and thus perpetuating a cycle of inequalities ?
 
If you can't believe a woman that tells you that she was raped, then trust me.
I'm not the problem.
You are the problem because you don't believe women lie

Saying this while completely ignoring a scenario where the option of not needing proof to judge is wild. But since you are using bad faith, here is a clearer exemple for you:

If a man kills another man in front of you. You don't have to wait for the delivering of a justice tribunal to call the man a murderer.

This is what not needing justice to judge means.
I'm a witness of the crime. It wasn't the case in your rape scenario. You are dishonest.

I will ignore this for your sake.
You will ignore because it is true

Your world has nothing to do with science mate, I'm very sorry. I'm trying to be respectfull but don't push the buttons here.

Learn about science, leanr about SOCIAL science too and then you will come back to me to try to lecture me about science.
Another bunch of nothing you said here with the same old I'm better than you and you can't hold a discussion with me because you don't understand the things I do

Never said "lived better". I said that there are things that were better, like for example, the distributions of tasks.

You are confusing everything I say while purpusely ignoring 50% of the actual content.. which is really starting to bug me off at the moment since I'm doing major effort to be nice.
Fair enough I may be wrong about this then.

I checked TWICE everything.

No you didn't. You ignored the entire paragraph


Here it is again :
My word is final
 
You are the problem because you don't believe women lie


I'm a witness of the crime. It wasn't the case in your rape scenario. You are dishonest.


You will ignore because it is true


Another bunch of nothing you said here with the same old I'm better than you and you can't hold a discussion with me because you don't understand the things I do


Fair enough I may be wrong about this then.


My word is final
Who is the real retard here, Herrera, let's be honest.
You know you are talking with a retard, you know beforehand and yet you still engage.
You guys all should stop replying to him, it's clearly unhealthy for all people involved.
 
Absolutely and utterly : NO

Fascism is PURELY capitalist. And historically placed at the far right of the political spectrum.

Fascism is literally what Capitalism can do when there is no barrier (libertarianism) and when they are reactionnary values added to the mix.

For exemple, Eugenism, is an extention of ableism that also exist and is pushed by fascism.

Fascism is a perfect product of capitalism.
This is tbh propaganda leftists use to slander capitalism by equating it with fascism.

irl fascists and capitalists want very different things.

Take Elon Musk. Elon might do the Nazi salute and back Trump. But at the end of the day, there is a stark divide between Musk and actual Nazis.

The difference being that whereas Elon has come out publicly in support of H1-B visas, actual Nazis despise the H1-B program as it lets immigrants, often from India and other non-white countries, benefit at (from their perspective) the expense of white people.

Fascists are willing to limit the extent of capitalism for the sake of the collective(however that is defined).

But they are not as extreme as the socialist in wanting to abolish private property
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Hence I’d argue they are a mid point between neoliberalism and socialism, but it is often worse than either.
 
You are the problem because you don't believe women lie
You are confusing not believing that women can lie and thinking that women who risk their mental, economic, social and physical life when they call out a man will very rarely lie.

If you consider that a woman is lying to you when she tells you that she was raped. You are a danger for women. Plain and simple.


I'm a witness of the crime. It wasn't the case in your rape scenario. You are dishonest.
No, it's the same. What you are refusing is the body of evidences showing that women do not lie in this situation the absolute majority of the time.

Therefore, you are doing the same thing as not believing yourself if you saw a murder. Or if a group of friend told you that there was a murder. You are rejecting a body of converging evidences.

And you are doing the same thing with capitalism.


You will ignore because it is true
No I ignored that because it was racist and I don't want to deal with that with the lack of moderation on this thread. I already have enough hatefull rethoric.

Fair enough I may be wrong about this then.
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Your word is wrong. You are avoiding the question.

It's as simple as that.


This is tbh propaganda leftists use to slander capitalism by equating it with fascism.
No, this is historical fact my guy. I'm relaying the words of historian, not just leftists here. This is a logic that is not hard to understand if you let me explain.


irl fascists and capitalists want very different things.
No they are not.
There are difference, yes, but not as big as you may think.


Take Elon Musk. Elon might do the Nazi salute and back Trump. But at the end of the day, there is a stark divide between Musk and actual Nazis.
Elon is LITERALLY a Nazi advocater and defender bro. And I think you do not understand that Nazism is just ONE type of fascism. We don't call out Elon just because he made a bad Nazi salute (which was not a roman Salute btw, Roman never used that, and which was actually a Nazi)

Elon is a white surpremacist and an eugenist. He is a fascist through and through.

Fascists are willing to limit the extent of capitalism for the sake of the collective(however that is defined).
No. They do the opposite.

They strike down the collective. They diseappear unions. Fascism is the last tool of the bourgeoisie to impose it's dominance.


Indeed.

People who call themselves "rationnal" but do not use ethics, materialism or social sciences to look beyond their horizon are doomed to fall into the WORST traps of reactionnarism.

This is why I already warned you about Richard Dawkins, who is now considered an Eugenist by the left. And a person with a problem of ethics by scientists.
 
Japan has always been a racist country. The refusal of SOME of the far right sympathizer is nothing new. This country should open the borders massively to immigration. They need it.
Gladly you don't make Japan's decisions. It doesn't need massive immigration, It's own population needs better work standards, wage etc.
That and hopefully with government benefits to them having children. The pop, is unhappy from what I heard.

Once again you a piece of shit, Trying to tell other people what to do, a sign of a Piece of shit.
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Oh look, the opposite has happened, and yet another one of the usual suspects does crime.
 
Gladly you don't make Japan's decisions. It doesn't need massive immigration, It's own population needs better work standards, wage etc.
That and hopefully with government benefits to them having children. The pop, is unhappy from what I heard.

Once again you a piece of shit, Trying to tell other people what to do, a sign of a Piece of shit.
wow.

I triggered you it seems. You are lucky I'm refusing to send back the hate bra.

Japan is dying of old age. They needs immigration. It's just a fact. And yeah, you are right, they need better working conditions. And also the end of patriarchy and far right BS in their country. This means, the rise of leftism in the institutions.


Oh look, the opposite has happened, and yet another one of the usual suspects does crime.
Do you prefer videos over statistics ?


Maybe you are not wrong
- When people tell me "why did you headbutt with the majority of the thread right from the beginning" and they don't understand when I say that I noticed VERY EARLY ON each reactionnary alliances and behaviors and pinpointed very precisely who was close to progressive ideas or not...

- And when someone who calls me a retard and multiple times attacked me on my mental health is telling to someone who is promoting and defending war criminal while invisibilizing a genocide and saying other horrible stuff that I should be ignored while calling themselves a leftist.

This is what I meant by understanding very clearly who are leftist allies and who are not.
 
You are confusing not believing that women can lie and thinking that women who risk their mental, economic, social and physical life when they call out a man will very rarely lie.

If you consider that a woman is lying to you when she tells you that she was raped. You are a danger for women. Plain and simple.
Psycopaths don't risk anything.

No, it's the same. What you are refusing is the body of evidences showing that women do not lie in this situation the absolute majority of the time.

Therefore, you are doing the same thing as not believing yourself if you saw a murder. Or if a group of friend told you that there was a murder. You are rejecting a body of converging evidences.

And you are doing the same thing with capitalism.
You didn't showed a single evidence.

No I ignored that because it was racist and I don't want to deal with that with the lack of moderation on this thread. I already have enough hatefull rethoric.
Is not racist, you don't even understand that word.
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- When people tell me "why did you headbutt with the majority of the thread right from the beginning" and they don't understand when I say that I noticed VERY EARLY ON each reactionnary alliances and behaviors and pinpointed very precisely who was close to progressive ideas or not...

- And when someone who calls me a retard and multiple times attacked me on my mental health is telling to someone who is promoting and defending war criminal while invisibilizing a genocide and saying other horrible stuff that I should be ignored while calling themselves a leftist.

This is what I meant by understanding very clearly who are leftist allies and who are not.
Or maybe you are just extreme. No matter which "side" you go you will always be extreme to it. That's what many complain at US nowadays. They used to be left 20 years ago but people went to extreme and are not calling them right wing.

Donald Trump used to be a democrat, JFK kid used to be democrat, Elon Musk used to be democrat. Now they are all republicans. They didn't moved to the right, the democractic party went extreme to the left. They are sitll the same democrats from 00's.
 
Psycopaths don't risk anything.
Are you really naming women who are denounce their abusers, "psychopaths" ?

You didn't showed a single evidence.
Yes I did, a hundreds of times in this thread already. You can check, I shared many peer solid studies, words of researchers, sociologist, historians, activists.


Is not racist, you don't even understand that word.
You do not understand the system that is racism. I'm willing to explain it to you. I already told you that.

But FIRST you need to be willing to expand your windows of vision to look beyond what was delivered to you as vulgarization at school in the first years of your education.
 
Or maybe you are just extreme. No matter which "side" you go you will always be extreme to it. That's what many complain at US nowadays. They used to be left 20 years ago but people went to extreme and are not calling them right wing.
Yes, you are right. I'm extrem yes. I'm more radical that anyone on this thread despite not being a clear anarchist or communist. But this is not a biases, this is testimony that I know ALL the spectrum from the far right to the extrem left.

Precisely because - like I already explained to you - I went through ALL OF IT.

So when I see someone who is depicting the same behavior I did years ago, I know how to place them very easily. I can see the pattern and pinpoint your ideology LONG before you even explain to me how you act or think.

Of course I will be wrong sometimes here and there, and of course there are nuance. But when the body of evidences is clear, there is nothing to deny.

The US were never leftist. And democrats are not leftist. Do I need to remind you of the red scare ?

The ones who lie about it definitely are.
It's the absolute minority. A very small %.
And this %, is mainly due to the lack of proof, not the actual rumor that women are lying.

In reality, women are risking EVERYTHING by calling out their abusers.


You don't know what racism means.
I love it, you just ignored my entire post just to tell me the same thing.

We could go on and on. You are absolutely not willing to learn more than what was distributed to you as a child in your education system

C4N is a #BelieveAllWomen Type.
Yup. We all should be like that.

That's basic respect in front of a systemic oppression.
 
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