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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rotest-movement-met-repression-and-resistance
(these are just examples of course)
I didn't talked about that but yes indeed (well I talked about it here many times before, but for other reasons). The justice and political environment in the UK is currently starting to shift against trans people (therefore fundamentally against leftists too)
Did you know that the labour was considered as rightist (and even reactionnary sometimes) by simple depoliticized leftists here in France?
Children of chavs being right wing? Say it ain't so
What did Leftists expect from advocating childfree movement because "the planet is overpopulated"
In america Democrats pretty much rely on Mexicans to not lose Elections because of how much they lost the White Demographic as only conservatives have kids
What did Leftists expect from advocating childfree movement because "the planet is overpopulated"
In america Democrats pretty much rely on Mexicans to not lose Elections because of how much they lost the White Demographic as only conservatives have kids
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rotest-movement-met-repression-and-resistance
(these are just examples of course)
I didn't talked about that but yes indeed (well I talked about it here many times before, but for other reasons). The justice and political environment in the UK is currently starting to shift against trans people (therefore fundamentally against leftists too)
Did you know that the labour was considered as rightist (and even reactionnary sometimes) by simple depoliticized leftists here in France?
It's incredibly classy to be classist, innit? Christ, you're unreal.
Over here, the right don't have kids. The foreigners do. We're undergoing massive demographic shifts as a result.
I personally think people ascribe too much morality to left and right. Many of these issues are not a left and right thing. However, a lot of these people are still left-wing.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rotest-movement-met-repression-and-resistance
(these are just examples of course)
I didn't talked about that but yes indeed (well I talked about it here many times before, but for other reasons). The justice and political environment in the UK is currently starting to shift against trans people (therefore fundamentally against leftists too)
Did you know that the labour was considered as rightist (and even reactionnary sometimes) by simple depoliticized leftists here in France?
You are aware that Heba Muraisi committed crimes and is now freely starving herself in protest? That's on her for being stupid.
In addition, they're being arrested for committing terror attacks. The articles make it clear they're committing vandalism against UK industries. They deserve to be in jail. Palestine Action are, in effect, committing either terrorism or acts of war. It's no surprise they'd be cracked down on.
Check actual Palestine protests, they're allowed and happen frequently here. Do you know what IS heavily policed? Protests against immigration.
As for Labour, they are absolutely not right wing. They're left, just not extreme left like you want.
Over here, the right don't have kids. The foreigners do. We're undergoing massive demographic shifts as a result.
I personally think people ascribe too much morality to left and right. Many of these issues are not a left and right thing. However, a lot of these people are still left-wing.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...rotest-movement-met-repression-and-resistance
(these are just examples of course)
I didn't talked about that but yes indeed (well I talked about it here many times before, but for other reasons). The justice and political environment in the UK is currently starting to shift against trans people (therefore fundamentally against leftists too)
Did you know that the labour was considered as rightist (and even reactionnary sometimes) by simple depoliticized leftists here in France?
In addition, they're being arrested for committing terror attacks. The articles make it clear they're committing vandalism against UK industries. They deserve to be in jail. Palestine Action are, in effect, committing either terrorism or acts of war. It's no surprise they'd be cracked down on.
Check actual Palestine protests, they're allowed and happen frequently here. Do you know what IS heavily policed? Protests against immigration.
As for Labour, they are absolutely not right wing. They're left, just not extreme left like you want.
Did you know that Nazis designated the french resistance as terrorist while being the occupying and therefore legal force?
So if a group is designated as terrorist by a state, how do you make sure that this designation is ethical ?
What crime ?
Do you consider the disruption of the UK arms industry to prevent the help of the country for a genocide, to be "terror attacks"?
As I showed you, yet, pro-palestine protest who tried to denounce the repression of Palestine Action were actually massively arrested.
Do you feel as the risk relative to Anti-immigration protests (with counter manifestation, organization in sensible area, sometimes straight up fascist and racist behaviors)... is the same as with protestors trying to prevent a genocide?
So if a group is designated as terrorist by a state, how do you make sure that this designation is ethical ?
What crime ?
Do you consider the disruption of the UK arms industry to prevent the help of the country for a genocide, to be "terror attacks"?
As I showed you, yet, pro-palestine protest who tried to denounce the repression of Palestine Action were actually massively arrested.
Do you feel as the risk relative to Anti-immigration protests (with counter manifestation, organization in sensible area, sometimes straight up fascist and racist behaviors)... is the same as with protestors trying to prevent a genocide?
You can be born in the ghetto and not be ghetto
You can be born in a poor Russian city and not be a gopnik
You can be born to poor Mizrahim jews and not be a Arsem
Don't be dense, it's more of a lifestyle culture than a class one
Correct. It has no place in the UK in the first place.
She broke into Elbit systems as part of Palestine Action's acts.
In my case, my own discretion rather than the state's words. Attacking industries within the UK on behalf of a foreign state's agenda is terrorism, bruv.
Because that protest is literally promoting a terrorist organisation.
Now, we disagree on what 'racism' means, as you think it is all about executable power and domination, but yes, I do.
I don't think being anti-immigration is racist, especially in the face of demographic and cultural change which the people of the country didn't even vote for.
The protesters can say they are trying to prevent genocide, but all they're doing is committing terrorism against the nation that was kind enough to give them a home in most cases. If they really want to stop a genocide, go to the country directly, don't commit domestic attacks.
I'd let the daft woman starve herself to death as a lesson to everyone else who threatens to kill themselves in order to get out of jail. Consequences.
It's the assumption that they vote in the first place. People in those communities rarely vote. The ones that do vote tend to go for left-wing governments because it gives them more handouts.
She broke into Elbit systems as part of Palestine Action's acts.
In my case, my own discretion rather than the state's words. Attacking industries within the UK on behalf of a foreign state's agenda is terrorism, bruv.
Because that protest is literally promoting a terrorist organisation.
Now, we disagree on what 'racism' means, as you think it is all about executable power and domination, but yes, I do.
I don't think being anti-immigration is racist, especially in the face of demographic and cultural change which the people of the country didn't even vote for.
The protesters can say they are trying to prevent genocide, but all they're doing is committing terrorism against the nation that was kind enough to give them a home in most cases. If they really want to stop a genocide, go to the country directly, don't commit domestic attacks.
I'd let the daft woman starve herself to death as a lesson to everyone else who threatens to kill themselves in order to get out of jail. Consequences.
It's the assumption that they vote in the first place. People in those communities rarely vote. The ones that do vote tend to go for left-wing governments because it gives them more handouts.
Do you think that a genocide is happening in Gaza currently?
But isn't that precisely your state's words ?
Ok so what if french people had created protest in occupied France to support the resistance that was considered a terrorist organization by Nazi, would you think that these protest would have been illegitimate and unethical?
We are talking about the dangerosity of two different type of protest. One, against the genocide (with thousands of arrest) without coutner protest or very little and another, with big counter protests and a risk of racists attacks (because of the antimigration structural ideology) (without that many arrests).
Yet, you are implying that the police will concentrated injustifiably on the right wings who protest against immigration more than leftists who protest against palestinians.
The thousands of protester arrested by the police who had nothing to do with palestine action who simply supported their ethical right to fight back against a genocide ? This people "commited terrorism against your nation" ?
Do understand that this can be considered as a pro-fascist statement within the context of their action and the genocide in Gaza?
I'm simply curious
I completely agree, so you also agree with black people fighting neo-colonialism in the west (like in france)?
But isn't that precisely your state's words ?
Ok so what if french people had created protest in occupied France to support the resistance that was considered a terrorist organization by Nazi, would you think that these protest would have been illegitimate and unethical?
We are talking about the dangerosity of two different type of protest. One, against the genocide (with thousands of arrest) without coutner protest or very little and another, with big counter protests and a risk of racists attacks (because of the antimigration structural ideology) (without that many arrests).
Yet, you are implying that the police will concentrated injustifiably on the right wings who protest against immigration more than leftists who protest against palestinians.
The thousands of protester arrested by the police who had nothing to do with palestine action who simply supported their ethical right to fight back against a genocide ? This people "commited terrorism against your nation" ?
Do understand that this can be considered as a pro-fascist statement within the context of their action and the genocide in Gaza?
I'm simply curious
I completely agree, so you also agree with black people fighting neo-colonialism in the west (like in france)?