Controversial General Religion Thread

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Do you guys have assurance of salvation?

I believe anyone who agrees that there is a monotheistic multipersonal God whose second person came down to earth and died for our sins is getting salvation

Obviously there's a lot of things I disagree with in other denominations but as long as you believe Jesus is our Lord and Saviour you should go heaven. That's what He said and I am nobody to condemn or judge anyone just because they disagree on the other aspects of the church

 

[Midnight Delight]

monotheistic multipersonal God

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Best way, I think I can describe the difference between real Jews and zionists is this.

1. Real Jewish people actually follow the ten commandments. Thou shalt not murder. Wow, I wonder what that means. It doesn't seem to be very specific.

2. Real Jews love God, and want to serve God out of love. They want to spread God out of love. The Zionists hate God, and worship power. They don't love God. They love the idea of them becoming being god themselves.

They want to kill God and replace them. Real Jews would never even think of this because they're serving their god out of love.

Zionists have no real god. They only worship power. They only worship the idea of them ruling above everyone else. If they do have any gods in their pantheon, they do not worship them they seek to kill them and usurp them. They're sucking up to the Archons to get scraps.

And since abrahamic theology is very open about God being the entire universe, the real Jews are generally very good to nature, since they understand that they themselves, the other animals, the plant life and everything around us is functionally the light of God.

This is why i'm able to understand and work with many people from the abrahamic faiths despite having significant disagreements with them about their theology.

It's because they're intent is fundamentally good, and a lot of the religion is based in truth that's been distorted.

The rise of antisemitism bothers me incredibly. The CIA and Mossad want us attacking our neighbors with Torahs and Qurans, not the Epstein Class using those innocent people as scapegoats.

Agreed. I really like Rabbi Tovia Singer.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Love this thread. So many people have their own opinions and beliefs about faith. As a Muslim I would not say I’m a good Muslim but I would say that I have improved from how I was in high school and college.
As for my beliefs, I’m what you’d call an orthodox Sunni Muslim whom follows the Athari madhab. I don’t know a lot but I’m researching and learning more daily.

An interesting thing about Islam ☪️ is the fact that it unites various peoples high and low status to prostrate shoulders to shoulders in the mosques.
There is also the idea of the Covenant of Ishmael that I do believe is reflected in Torah and other books.

Islamic nations I would like to see:

1. Egypt 🇪🇬
2. Morocco 🇲🇦
3. Indonesia 🇮🇩
4. Jordan 🇯🇴

 

[Midnight Delight]

Athari madhab

Aren't you South Asian?

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Aren't you South Asian?

I am. I have been looking into Athari

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Aren't you South Asian?

The Athari, Ashari, and Maturidi schools are the three main theological traditions within Sunni Islam. They are distinguished primarily by their approach to Divine Attributes and the role of reason versus revelation.

🏛️ Origins & Followers

· Athari: Emerged from the Ahl al-Hadith (people of hadith) movement, led by Ahmad ibn Hanbal (d. 855).
· Ashari: Founded by Abu al-Hasan al-Ash'ari (d. 935) in Baghdad. Followed by Shafi'i and Maliki schools, and scholars like al-Ghazali and al-Nawawi.
· Maturidi: Founded by Abu Mansur al-Maturidi (d. 944) in Samarqand. Followed by the Hanafi school (e.g., Deobandis, Ottoman scholars)

 

[Donquixote Shivercalero]

Agreed. I really like Rabbi Tovia Singer.

Tovia Singer is a zionist just because he realizes that dying rising mythological mangod isnt in the torah doesnt make him any better

 

[Donquixote Shivercalero]

Mahomets Gesang" (Mahomet's Song) is a poem written by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe in 1772–1773, published in 1774, which serves as a hymn of praise to the Prophet Muhammad, depicting him as a powerful, life-giving river. It was originally intended for a drama about the Prophet that was never completed.
P.S. same guy that wrote Tragedy of Dr. Faust aka the OG sell your soul to the devil story.
by Goethe aka peak European literature:

“Whether the Koran is of eternity?
I don’t question that!…
That it is the book of books
I believe out of the muslim’s duty.”
- Goethe (Rahimahullah)

 

[Donquixote Shivercalero]

Compared to Muslims where The Azhar Scholars view even Baha'i as Muslims even after Ibn Tamiyyah's Da'awa against Batiniya

Al Azhar are on the same faith as them after all disbelief is but one creed.

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Tovia Singer is a zionist just because he realizes that dying rising mythological mangod isnt in the torah doesnt make him any better

Agreed. I really like Rabbi Tovia Singer.

tbh the only Jews who aren’t Zionist are either secular or haredi.

I think more than the whole “it was promised 3000 years ago” thing, it’s largely because Jews have a sense of collective identity similar to the Muslim concept of the Ummah.

The Jewish world is also so small, half the world’s Jewish population is Israeli and the other half isn’t that much disconnected from Israel.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

Tovia Singer is a zionist just because he realizes that dying rising mythological mangod isnt in the torah doesnt make him any better

True true.

 

[BoaHancocksHusband]

@NAMELESS @Okamakama @GalaxyLevelShanks


Are you guys protestant or catholic or orthodox?

I'm baptist

Thoughts on Islam?

 

[Blax Blah]

"Listen, I lived down in that God-less depraved mess for 27 years, and some folks live faster than others. I know the life of a musician, and the life of an artist, and the life of a writer, and the life of a dance band drummer and a bartender and DI in hand to hand in the infantry, you're not going to fool me, with that stuff.


And the first time I got hold of a book that began to straighten me out and take away my dirty jokes and my dirty language and my dirty women and my dirty thinking and all that kind of stuff, they began to tell me what's wrong with it. That's the first pure thing I ever put my hands on in my life. And they get messing, I'll mess with them, and I'll mess with them good buddy."

- Peter Ruckman, baptist KJV only-ist preacher, about preachers that say the KJV has errors

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Thoughts on Islam?

I try to keep kosher because I find adherence to laws to be meaningful and life circumstances lead me to stumbling into Judaism.

but that said, I feel like aspects of halal might be more true to the Torah. Specifically the fact that Muslims aren’t anal about milk and meat. IMO that is purely a rabbinic invention and probably wasn’t the true intention behind “don’t boil a calf in its mother’s milk”.

Ultimately I do find Halacha to be meaningful and something worth pursuing. But I’d be lying if I said I don’t love halal food.