Questions & Mysteries Greatest battle: 4 Emperors fighting each other at the same time?

[Erkan12]

Oda literally said One Piece is a story to fight against 4 Emperors:

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Oda also put 4 Emperors in bigger panels than even Imu:

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Oda then again said One Piece story is finished once the treasure is found: (which aligns with 4 Emperors being final opponents)

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Oda: ''Correct. Rather than wanting to stop, its that the series will end, because the MOST EXCITING PART of Luffy's adventure, being the story of ''what is the One Piece?'' will come to its conclusion.''

The most exciting part is finding One Piece, not Final War.

Also Oda: ''If Luffy can set sail from Wano safely, there will be developments on a global scale, a thrilling story the likes of which no one ever read before, I will draw 'the greatest battle ever' in OP history.''

Some people want Mihawk to be Zolo's final villain, but at the same time Buggy fighting Luffy as final villain makes no sense.

4 Emperors all fighting at the same time could be a greater battle than the fight against Government, with this way all of the things Oda said, and Mihawk / Shiryu would be Zolo's final opponent while Luffy fights Blackbeard as final villain.

If you disagree how you will have Mihawk as final villain for Zolo, but Government as final villain for Luffy, explain it.

 

[gz89]

aint that guy.

 

[Erkan12]

aint that guy.

Read the thread:
''If you disagree how you will have Mihawk as final villain for Zolo, but Government as final villain for Luffy, explain it.''

 

[gz89]

Read the thread:
''If you disagree how you will have Mihawk as final villain for Zolo, but Government as final villain for Luffy, explain it.''

The final battle is not X group vs Y group. There will be multiple groups involved.

 

[kekaro]

"supposed" meaning it wasnt/isnt anymore and wasnt for a long time
There was a saga literaly called yonko saga and it was finished before the final saga
This will be battle royal like oda said, thats what the final spread implies and even the mural confirmed again
I also wouldnt place that much weight of odas "supposed" statments, like lurking legend, one piece will end in 5 years and so on

 

[park_min young]

The dialogue literally talks about the race for One Piece.

The fact that Imu is still a silhouette there is telling enough, that’s just the spread for the One Piece race portion. That’s why the yonkos have bigger panels. The grand finale comes after the One Piece is found, Luffy also has a true dream that is yet to be revealed.

 

[MonochromeYoru]

how you will have Mihawk as final villain for Zolo, but Government as final villain for Luffy, explain it.

mihawk is not gonna be the final villain for zoro

 

[MonsterKaido]

Oda can write a battle royal ultimately will fall to his formula.

 

[Chiji_]

I believe a battle royale is possible for sure I’ve thought about it before

 

[Erkan12]

The dialogue literally talks about the race for One Piece.

The fact that Imu is still a silhouette there is telling enough, that’s just the spread for the One Piece race portion. That’s why the yonkos have bigger panels. The grand finale comes after the One Piece is found, Luffy also has a true dream that is yet to be revealed.

Baseless nonsense, Oda literally said One Piece is finished after they found the treasure.

Why would Oda say things like 4 Emperors are the main focus of the story and story is finished after finding treasure, then have a final vs Government not against the Emperors.

Luffy's 'funny' dream whatever it is that everyone laughed at doesn't mean it should require a final battle or greatest battle to achieve, if it required greatest battle to achieve people wouldn't laugh they would be serious or scared, your argument only proved my point right.

Finding One Piece is to final battle, then Luffy's funny absurd dream comes next that everyone laughs at, that funny dream shouldn't require the greatest battle where a lot of people dies.

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"supposed" meaning it wasnt/isnt anymore and wasnt for a long time
There was a saga literaly called yonko saga and it was finished before the final saga
This will be battle royal like oda said, thats what the final spread implies and even the mural confirmed again
I also wouldnt place that much weight of odas "supposed" statments, like lurking legend, one piece will end in 5 years and so on

This is different, Oda didn't need to expose Imu and 5 Elders this early if the story was going to continue after finding One Piece, that also proves they are going down as Oda already reveal them unlike FV Kaguya who was secret until the end in Naruto.

Oda wouldn't call the story ''One Piece'' he would call it ''Luffy'' or ''Romance Dawn'' etc etc Oda literally called it ''One Piece'' because thats the ultimate goal not Government.

 

[kyejames316]

Baseless nonsense, Oda literally said One Piece is finished after they found the treasure.

Why would Oda say things like 4 Emperors are the main focus of the story and story is finished after finding treasure, then have a final vs Government not against the Emperors.

Luffy's 'funny' dream whatever it is that everyone laughed at doesn't mean it should require a final battle or greatest battle to achieve, if it required greatest battle to achieve people wouldn't laugh they would be serious or scared, your argument only proved my point right.

Finding One Piece is to final battle, then Luffy's funny absurd dream comes next that everyone laughs at, that funny dream shouldn't require the greatest battle where a lot of people dies.

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This is different, Oda didn't need to expose Imu and 5 Elders this early if the story was going to continue after finding One Piece, that also proves they are going down as Oda already reveal them unlike FV Kaguya who was secret until the end in Naruto.

Oda wouldn't call the story ''One Piece'' he would call it ''Luffy'' or ''Romance Dawn'' etc etc Oda literally called it ''One Piece'' because thats the ultimate goal not Government.

Write less bro, your intelligence is (unfortunately) showing

The One Piece is the end of the narrative, just like Sukuna’s resurrection is the end of the story of Jujutsu Kaisen, or the defeat of Kaguya is the end of the narrative of Naruto. This is a shonen manga. When the narrative reaches its natural end, there is a huge fight, and the protagonist transcends and defeats the antagonist/rival using the tools they acquired in the story. Then there is also an epilogue.
You think One Piece ends with a panel of a big pile of treasure on Raftel lol

The One Piece is primarily the true poneglyph, this is already established by the story, the mystery is what else is hidden there and what new information will be revealed when the story is told in full. That mystery resolves the narrative of One Piece, which leaves the final battle and epilogue.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Probably means that they will all fight for the One Piece at the same time, which is happening now...

 

[JoNdule]

Baseless nonsense, Oda literally said One Piece is finished after they found the treasure.

Why would Oda say things like 4 Emperors are the main focus of the story and story is finished after finding treasure, then have a final vs Government not against the Emperors.

Luffy's 'funny' dream whatever it is that everyone laughed at doesn't mean it should require a final battle or greatest battle to achieve, if it required greatest battle to achieve people wouldn't laugh they would be serious or scared, your argument only proved my point right.

Finding One Piece is to final battle, then Luffy's funny absurd dream comes next that everyone laughs at, that funny dream shouldn't require the greatest battle where a lot of people dies.

Post automatically merged: Feb 24, 2025

This is different, Oda didn't need to expose Imu and 5 Elders this early if the story was going to continue after finding One Piece, that also proves they are going down as Oda already reveal them unlike FV Kaguya who was secret until the end in Naruto.

Oda wouldn't call the story ''One Piece'' he would call it ''Luffy'' or ''Romance Dawn'' etc etc Oda literally called it ''One Piece'' because thats the ultimate goal not Government.

The story ends with Imu defeated
Finding one piece leads to that

 

[Erkan12]

Write less bro, your intelligence is (unfortunately) showing

The One Piece is the end of the narrative, just like Sukuna’s resurrection is the end of the story of Jujutsu Kaisen, or the defeat of Kaguya is the end of the narrative of Naruto. This is a shonen manga. When the narrative reaches its natural end, there is a huge fight, and the protagonist transcends and defeats the antagonist/rival using the tools they acquired in the story. Then there is also an epilogue.
You think One Piece ends with a panel of a big pile of treasure on Raftel lol

The One Piece is primarily the true poneglyph, this is already established by the story, the mystery is what else is hidden there and what new information will be revealed when the story is told in full. That mystery resolves the narrative of One Piece, which leaves the final battle and epilogue.

If you want to talk about intelligence you need to bring better evidences on why Oda is lying.

You think One Piece ends with a panel of a Imu's big ass or someone else's defeated? Lmao of course they need to get the ultimate treasure in the end. And Imu doesn't have the One Piece.

As Oda showed the race for One Piece, Imu is just one of the contenders but only 4 Emperors are in the bigger panel not Imu.

Whatever happened in One Piece's past is past, seeing the last historical poneglif as Rayleigh said everyone can interpret the past differently, don't be too sure about what is going to be. Perhaps Sun God is also responsible for destroying things he needs to be defeated as well who knows.

The name of the series: One Piece.

Not ''Luffy'', or ''lets kick government's ass'' , or ''Romance Dawn'' etc etc

Its One Piece for a reason, once its found the series is finished Oda himself said it.

Oda also said story is about fighting 4 Emperors not Government.

Is Oda lying? Maybe, maybe not.

Until no Emperors left to defeat there is no reason to assume Oda is lying, if there is no Emperor left and only Imu left to fight then we can assume that Oda was lying.

The story ends with Imu defeated
Finding one piece leads to that

They need to get the ultimate treasure in their final battle and Imu doesn't have One Piece, he is just another contender like others Oda showed in the panels with 4 Emperors. No point on finding the ultimate treasure then fighting someone else for a lesser reward.

 

[park_min young]

If you want to talk about intelligence you need to bring better evidences on why Oda is lying.

You think One Piece ends with a panel of a Imu's big ass or someone else's defeated? Lmao of course they need to get the ultimate treasure in the end. And Imu doesn't have the One Piece.

As Oda showed the race for One Piece, Imu is just one of the contenders but only 4 Emperors are in the bigger panel not Imu.

Whatever happened in One Piece's past is past, seeing the last historical poneglif as Rayleigh said everyone can interpret the past differently, don't be too sure about what is going to be. Perhaps Sun God is also responsible for destroying things he needs to be defeated as well who knows.

The name of the series: One Piece.

Not ''Luffy'', or ''lets kick government's ass'' , or ''Romance Dawn'' etc etc

Its One Piece for a reason, once its found the series is finished Oda himself said it.

Oda also said story is about fighting 4 Emperors not Government.

Is Oda lying? Maybe, maybe not.

Until no Emperors left to defeat there is no reason to assume Oda is lying, if there is no Emperor left and only Imu left to fight then we can assume that Oda was lying.

Imu doesn't have One Piece, he is just another contender like others Oda showed in the panels with 4 Emperors.

Imu is at the centerpiece of what the One Piece mystery is alluding to lol, you have to be kidding me. How can somebody be in this much denial?

The original story was about yonkos — you mean the 30-year old OG concept where Oda hasn’t even planned 90% of the shit that was gonna happen? Nika lore is made up recently, and a lot of impactful decisions are made up along the way. One Piece is a much bigger story than some stupid treasure at this point. That treasure is just a puzzle piece to the whole picture that they’re trying to unwrap and solve.

 

[Erkan12]

Imu is at the centerpiece of what the One Piece mystery is alluding to lol, you have to be kidding me. .

No he isn't. Imu doesn't have One Piece, he couldn't even took 3 road poneglifs for himself to stop pirates searching One Piece and still blaming Lily for that.

If Imu has that 1 missing road poneglifs as Shiryu suggested then Imu is definitely going down before finding One Piece which also aligns with what Oda said story ends with finding One Piece.

How can somebody be in this much denial?
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You mean Oda is in denial? Lmao, Oda literally said how One Piece ends and you blame other people for using Oda's words.

You need to use better arguments on why Oda is lying about end of One Piece and why he changed the main opponents 4 Emperors.

. One Piece is a much bigger story than some stupid treasure at this point. That treasure is just a puzzle piece to the whole picture that they’re trying to unwrap and solve.

Lmao calling One Piece ''some stupid treasure'' is a new form of crying for Imu.

So in your mind they will find the ultimate treasure One Piece, then they will turn back to fight the FV to get a lesser reward?

 

[park_min young]

No he isn't. Imu doesn't have One Piece, he couldn't even took 3 road poneglifs for himself to stop pirates searching One Piece and still blaming Lily for that.

If Imu has that 1 missing road poneglifs as Shiryu suggested then Imu is definitely going down before finding One Piece which also aligns with what Oda said story ends with finding One Piece.

You mean Oda is in denial? Lmao, Oda literally said how One Piece ends and you blame other people for using Oda's words.

You need to use better arguments on why Oda is lying about end of One Piece and why he changed the main opponents 4 Emperors.



Lmao calling One Piece ''some stupid treasure'' is a new form of crying for Imu.

The One Piece has the ancient mystery, they are trying to uncover it before they can beat Imu.

You fell for the classic half-ass interview. Oda also said about a OP ending in 5 years like 10 years ago

Maybe read and comprehend how the manga is flowing first, not some misdirection hoopla by Oda in his interviews.

 

[Erkan12]

The One Piece has the ancient mystery, they are trying to uncover it before they can beat Imu.

You fell for the classic half-ass interview. Oda also said about a OP ending in 5 years like 10 years ago

Maybe read and comprehend how the manga is flowing first, not some misdirection hoopla by Oda in his interviews.

Giving a timeline and talking about how One Piece ends are 2 different things lmao. Timeline can always change, he literally said adding Warlords extended the time but 4 Emperors are still main opponents. See the pattern, Warlords are government related opponents, Oda can keep adding government related opponents to extend the story but 4 Emperors still remains as final opponents.

Again, you make no sense as you claim they will find the ultimate treasure One Piece then they turn back to fight someone to get a lesser reward, thats not how story works.

Also you didn't answer why Imu shouldn't have that 1 road poneglif as Shiryu said. If he has it, he needs to go down before One Piece which aligns with what Oda said.

Now Oda is constantly showing Imu and his underlings Gorosei, Holy Knights etc before finding One Piece, Oda also add Imu and Garling, Shamrock to that One Piece race panel. They are also in the race and will be defeated before finding One Piece.

 

[park_min young]

Giving a timeline and talking about how One Piece ends are 2 different things lmao. Timeline can always change, he literally said adding Warlords extended the time but 4 Emperors are still main opponents. See the pattern, Warlords are government related opponents, Oda can keep adding government related opponents to extend the story but 4 Emperors still remains as final opponents.

Again, you make no sense as you claim they will find the ultimate treasure One Piece then they turn back to fight someone to get a lesser reward, thats not how story works.

Also you didn't answer why Imu shouldn't have that 1 road poneglif as Shiryu said. If he has it, he needs to go down before One Piece which aligns with what Oda said.

Now Oda is constantly showing Imu and his underlings Gorosei, Holy Knights etc before finding One Piece, Oda also add Imu and Garling, Shamrock to that One Piece race panel. They are also in the race and will be defeated before finding One Piece.

Oda also said that Kaido won’t lose to some big punch, he also said that a lurking legend is coming within the year of that interview or something like that. Oda himself isn’t a reliable source, he spews shit out of the spur of the moment.

What do you mean lesser reward? Saving the entire planet from the 900-year-old ruler is a lesser reward than some bikini hidden in an island? Lol

He says that the story is over whenever the One Piece is found, this isn’t even a literal statement because there will be one long epilogue to wrap everything up regardless. He also said that the situation around it changes. It’s most likely a general estimate by him, if there’s one big fight after the OP is found then this statement could still be true. Basically, the end is near and 95+% finished whenever the OP is found.

And even if Laughtale is the last fight, that doesn’t prove that the World Government and Imu won’t be the final villains to go down. They will still be the ultimate villains based on current lore buildup.

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

Oda literally said One Piece is a story to fight against 4 Emperors:

Bro read the thing YOU sent yourself to prove the story is to fight against the Yonko.

"At first, One Piece was intended to be a story that lasted 5 years. It WAS supposed to be a story against Pirates called Yonkou. However, I came up with the idea of Shichibukai".

This was Oda's original plan for the story where the Yonkos were the final villains that were meant to be beaten to find the one piece. This was during the time where oda hadn't even come up with the ideas of warlords. Clearly, that was his old vision for how the story was supposed to pan out but since the introduction of the warlords, that clearly changed. He had a new vision which led to the story extending for 2-3 decades or however long this story will go on for. Beating the Yonkos as FVs is not the current goal of the story.

This doesn't mean Teach won't end up as the FV. He could still be the final guy after Imu is taken down but all this will only happen after the One Piece is found. Finding the One Piece is the key to take the WG down and turn the world upside down. It's Joyboy's entire story after all...