Questions & Mysteries Greatest battle: 4 Emperors fighting each other at the same time?

[Erkan12]

Oda also said that Kaido won’t lose to some big punch, he also said that a lurking legend is coming within the year of that interview or something like that. Oda himself isn’t a reliable source, he spews shit out of the spur of the moment.

What do you mean lesser reward? Saving the entire planet from the 900-year-old ruler is a lesser reward than some bikini hidden in an island? Lol

He says that the story is over whenever the One Piece is found, this isn’t even a literal statement because there will be one long epilogue to wrap everything up regardless. He also said that the situation around it changes. It’s most likely a general estimate by him, if there’s one big fight after the OP is found then this statement could still be true. Basically, the end is near and 95+% finished whenever the OP is found.

And even if Laughtale is the last fight, that doesn’t prove that the World Government and Imu won’t be the final villains to go down. They will still be the ultimate villains based on current lore buildup.

Kaido didn't lose to regular big punch he lose to Gear 5's new powers so he was right.

If Oda isn't reliable source then no one is.

As I said until you prove Emperors won't be active in the end, no reason to believe they won't be final villains.

Oda also did this:

He is following the plan, these 4 Emperors are more special than others.

-Again no answer for why they should get the ultimate treasure One Piece then turn back and fight for a lesser reward.

-Again no answer for why Imu doesn't have 1 road poneglif so he needs to go down before One Piece.

Until then Oda's words are more reliable.

Bro read the thing YOU sent yourself to prove the story is to fight against the Yonko.

"At first, One Piece was intended to be a story that lasted 5 years. It WAS supposed to be a story against Pirates called Yonkou. However, I came up with the idea of Shichibukai".

This was Oda's original plan for the story where the Yonkos were the final villains that were meant to be beaten to find the one piece. This was during the time where oda hadn't even come up with the ideas of warlords. Clearly, that was his old vision for how the story was supposed to pan out but since the introduction of the warlords, that clearly changed. He had a new vision which led to the story extending for 2-3 decades or however long this story will go on for. Beating the Yonkos as FVs is not the current goal of the story.

This doesn't mean Teach won't end up as the FV. He could still be the final guy after Imu is taken down but all this will only happen after the One Piece is found. Finding the One Piece is the key to take the WG down and turn the world upside down. It's Joyboy's entire story after all...

You claim Warlords become the focus of the story? He literally removed Warlords before Emperors, he can also remove other Government fighters as well before Emperors.

Warlords only extended the story while he kept Emperors as final villains. Warlords didn't change the story, they only extended the time.

See the 4 Emperors foreshadowing above.

Whats your excuse for Oda's other statement that One Piece ends with finding it?

One Piece is the ultimate treasure as well, you guys seriously believing Luffy and others will want to fight Imu for learning ancient history? Lmao Luffy is not a hero, he fights for his own dream One Piece.

Imu needs to go down before as Oda revealed Imu as a contender for One Piece race and potentially 1 missing road poneglif belongs to Imu, he needs to be defeated before.

Also aligns with the logic that they can't get the ultimate treasure then turn back to fight someone for a lesser reward.

 

[soupongo]

Kaido didn't lose to regular big punch he lose to Gear 5's new powers so he was right.

If Oda isn't reliable source then no one is.

As I said until you prove Emperors won't be active in the end, no reason to believe they won't be final villains.

Oda also did this:

He is following the plan, these 4 Emperors are more special than others.

-Again no answer for why they should get the ultimate treasure One Piece then turn back and fight for a lesser reward.

-Again no answer for why Imu doesn't have 1 road poneglif so he needs to go down before One Piece.

Until then Oda's words are more reliable.

You claim Warlords become the focus of the story? He literally removed Warlords before Emperors, he can also remove other Government fighters as well before Emperors.

Warlords only extended the story while he kept Emperors as final villains. Warlords didn't change the story, they only extended the time.

See the 4 Emperors foreshadowing above.

Whats your excuse for Oda's other statement that One Piece ends with finding it?

One Piece is the ultimate treasure as well, you guys seriously believing Luffy and others will want to fight Imu for learning ancient history? Lmao Luffy is not a hero, he fights for his own dream One Piece.

Imu needs to go down before as Oda revealed Imu as a contender for One Piece race and potentially 1 missing road poneglif belongs to Imu, he needs to be defeated before.

Also aligns with the logic that they can't get the ultimate treasure then turn back to fight someone for a lesser reward.

What do you think about the whitebeard speech?

 

[GalaxyLevelShanks]

You claim Warlords become the focus of the story? He literally removed Warlords before Emperors, he can also remove other Government fighters as well before Emperors.

Never said that. I meant that Yonkos being FV is something he was thinking of before the warlords got introduced. Yonkos > warlords in importance, no doubt.

Nope. Warlords only extended the story while he kept Emperors as final villains. Warlords didn't change the story, they only extended the time.

See the 4 Emperors foreshadowing above.

Then why did he use clear past tense when talking about the point of the story

Introducing warlords meant he added a whole new layer to the world government than just marines chasing pirates.

Whats your excuse for Oda's other statement that One Piece ends with finding it

Stop taking everything in a literal sense. It's a grammatical tool to show that "what is the One Piece" is still the most important/popular question in the series. Not that it is the literal end of serialization. Luffy himself stated that he has a bigger dream after finding the One Piece

One Piece is a treasure as well, you guys seriously believing Luffy and others will want to fight Imu for learning ancient history? Lmao Luffy is not a hero, he fights for his own dream One Piece.

Luffy is not a hero but he fights arc after arc for the gain of his friends. Same way, he will not WANT to fight the WG but there'll be an event that ropes him into fighting for it anyways, like it has for the entire story.

It's stated here that the treasure will shake the core to the world while he prefaced it by talking about a war. Quite obvious that WB is talking about a war that'll shake the world after the one piece is found

Imu needs to go down before as Oda revealed Imu as a contender for One Piece race and potentially 1 missing road poneglif belongs to Imu, he needs to be defeated before.

The final spread also showed Akainu, Koby, Sabo, Dragon, Shamrock and Garling. All people with no interest in the one piece (unless you want to claim the revs/marines/HKs also have interest in it which is plain delusion with all due respect). It's quite obvious the spread is talking about the main players in the final war.

This Imu having 3 RPs is just fantasy headcanon because there is no proof Imu has it, especially considering that the 3 territories the SHs got it from are all outside of WG jurisdiction(Wano, Tottoland, Zou). Hell, there's no proof he's even going for it other than a clearly misinterpreted double spread.

Also aligns with the logic that they can't get the ultimate treasure then turn back to fight someone for a lesser reward.

The treasure contains the key to liberate the entire world. I won't say that is a lesser reward.

And again it's quite obvious you're doing all this so Teach is the FV which CAN STILL HAPPEN after Imu is taken down. Naruto didn't end after Madara and Kaguya were taken down.

 

[Erkan12]

What do you think about the whitebeard speech?

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It's stated here that the treasure will shake the core to the world while he prefaced it by talking about a war. Quite obvious that WB is talking about a war that'll shake the world after the one piece is found

Oda > Whitebeard lmao.

Also Whitebeard never said final battle is after, he literally talks about great war first then talks about One Piece.

Finding the ultimate treasure One Piece then turning back to fight someone else for a lesser reward makes no sense. That would be bad writing.

Also when Roger find One Piece, every pirate were trying to kill Roger for that, they can't fight Government in this situation they need to take out Government before:

''Whole world is after us'' , this is not a proper situation to fight Government, Government should be defeated before finding One Piece and before being the no.1 target of everyone in the world.

There is also the fact that Imu has 1 road poneglif as Shiryu suggested thus they need to beat Government for that.

Never said that. I meant that Yonkos being FV is something he was thinking of before the warlords got introduced. Yonkos > warlords in importance, no doubt.
Then why did he use clear past tense when talking about the point of the story
Introducing warlords meant he added a whole new layer to the world government than just marines chasing pirates.

Used past tense because the timeline changed, why adding Warlords should change the main opponent 4 Emperors? Lmao.

Thats a huge change as you believe Oda is changing the original final villains 4 Emperors to Government when he also says the story ends with finding One Piece. If he changed it to Government, Oda wouldn't keep saying it ends with finding One Piece.

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Stop taking everything in a literal sense. It's a grammatical tool to show that "what is the One Piece" is still the most important/popular question in the series. Not that it is the literal end of serialization.

Oda literally says what I say: why One Piece ends with finding it? Because One Piece is the ultimate treasure. You honestly believe they are going the get the ultimate treasure then fight for a lesser reward. Thats not how story works. They already got the treasure, defeating Government won't be equally rewarding as finding ultimate treasure One Piece because Luffy doesn't want to be the king of the world instead of Imu.

If Luffy wanted to be king of the world then maybe you could argue King of the World throne > One Piece treasure but Luffy wants One Piece treasure not the throne so defeating Government is not a equal reward its a lesser reward.

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. Luffy himself stated that he has a bigger dream after finding the One Piece

Wrong again, Luffy's dream isn't bigger. Its funnier and absurd that people laughs at it.

If Luffy's dream required to defeat Government, Luffy wouldn't go after One Piece. He would be Revolutionary like Dragon. This Luffy's dream argument once again proved me right as Luffy believes he can achieve it by finding One Piece otherwise he would go after Government just like Dragon goes after Government.

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This Imu having 3 RPs is just fantasy headcanon because there is no proof Imu has it, especially considering that the 3 territories the SHs got it from are all outside of WG jurisdiction(Wano, Tottoland, Zou). Hell, there's no proof he's even going for it other than a clearly misinterpreted double spread.

The treasure contains the key to liberate the entire world. I won't say that is a lesser reward.

And again it's quite obvious you're doing all this so Teach is the FV which CAN STILL HAPPEN after Imu is taken down. Naruto didn't end after Madara and Kaguya were taken down.

I didn't say Imu has 3 RPs, I said what Shiryu said:

If Government and Imu has 1 RP as its said, then they need to defeat Government for it once again that also aligns with everything Oda said about end of the story.

Imu clearly want stop people searching One Piece so it makes sense.

Imu obviously would want to collect other ponegliffs so he can take control of One Piece and stop other people from getting it.

If One Piece is just a treasure and ancient history, Imu has no reason to worry about, but he acts like when someone gets it, its over for him. He will do everything to not someone get it meaning he is going down before which aligns with what Oda said.

Also aligns with story where you don't get the ultimate treasure One Piece without beating the ultimate opponents, finding ultimate reward then fighting for lesser reward makes no sense.

Luffy is not a hero but he fights arc after arc for the gain of his friends. Same way, he will not WANT to fight the WG but there'll be an event that ropes him into fighting for it anyways, like it has for the entire story.

Thats why learning ancient history mean nothing for Luffy. Ancient history is not Luffy's friends.

You people seriously believe Luffy will fight for ancient history lmao, Luffy only fights for his friends not for some people he didn't even know they existed 800 years ago.

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The final spread also showed Akainu, Koby, Sabo, Dragon, Shamrock and Garling. All people with no interest in the one piece (unless you want to claim the revs/marines/HKs also have interest in it which is plain delusion with all due respect). It's quite obvious the spread is talking about the main players in the final war.
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They are part of the race as an extension of Government similar to Aokiji being extension of Blackbeard, its that simple. As Shiryu said, Government might have that 1 road poneglif. Government is part of the race then that also makes Revolutionaries part of it.