Character Discussion Greenbull did not run away from Shanks

#61
Luffy or Shanks being stronger is honestly irrelevant. Plot had Luffy defeat Kaido and unable to be stopped by 5 top tiers. Luffy is capable of beating Shanks. And Kizaru~GB.

Shanks was decisively below that of Old WB who was the strongest. This Joyboy hype to boost Shanks just says Old WB>Joyboy.
Warcury was enough.
 
#64
Kaido had fought others, yes, but wasn't even remotely close to be challenged. He only went serious against Sky splitting Luffy and 100% only against G5.

Maybe Kaido would still win, but It would be an extreme diff fight no doubt
This is straight up not true.
Post Yamato Fight yamato already said , He's tired now.
Now how do you go tired and serious at the same time?

And that's It.

Trying to say he hasn't fogered It Is like saying "Oda chose to give him a BB, but that doesn't mean anything because...", which Is like saying that It's the same as any random sword: but Oda freely chose to give him a BB instead of a normal random sword and if he wanted to give him another sword, he would have.

So, if Aramaki really has a BB, for me yes, Aramaki > Kizaru.
Bruh first of all , Idc myself what other zoro fans says.
But Black blade , let's leave aside the controversial part of it , Is forged through battles , You have to be a swordsman skilled and strong enough to forge one.
Aramaki shows us zero swordsmanship.
Only time he fought , he fought using his Logia powers.
Every time mihawk is one screen , either black blade or swordsmanship is at focus.

And a fuckin admiral , with similar feat to Mihawk. Is literally nobody.
Nobody fuckin is ready even to admit he has feats or something.
Not even Fujitora acknoledges any sort of such blades with him.
Black blade is one and the only proof of Mihawk superiority to Shanks.
If aramaki was anywhere near that , he had again zero reason to Bitch out against Shanks.

All I can see is defense of Aramaki bitching out of the fight or if Aramaki picked that black blade up from somewhere but Ya'll will still steamroll him with Black blade worthy , Ya'll plan to drag down the whole Swordsmanship community at the same time.


I'm not even gonna lie , Admirals fandom is desperate for feats now and oda is totally responsible for it. He wanked Haki way too much.

But you all don't need to cry for Haki feats as such.

Admirals have literally the most overpowered fruit and add basic haki to that. And they are ready to go.

Black blade is forged over the years of battle and experience.

Mihawk Fandom is sitting silently until he will do something , Ya'll just need to sit tight too.

Oda will deliver us admiral sooner or later.
 

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#65
Luffy or Shanks being stronger is honestly irrelevant. Plot had Luffy defeat Kaido and unable to be stopped by 5 top tiers. Luffy is capable of beating Shanks. And Kizaru~GB.

Shanks was decisively below that of Old WB who was the strongest. This Joyboy hype to boost Shanks just says Old WB>Joyboy.
did you see my follow ups??

for me shanks was just clashing with whitebeard rather than putting some real effort
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as for joyboy he will be revealed as the strongest guy if we go by shonen logic
 
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#66
And again you need government authorisation before fighting with a Yonkou.
Greenbull doesnt give a shit about rules, authorization and permission. His introduction literally has him phone into HQ, demand a warship and say not to tell Akainu that he is in Wano to fight a Yonkou.

The guy didnt waste any time, as soon as Luffy was declared a Yonkou, he went to Wano.

 
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#67
Greenbull doesnt give a shit about rules and permission. His introduction literally has him phone into HQ and say not to tell Akainu that he is in Wano to fight a Yonkou.
Come on dude.
There's a difference in how Admirals treats luffy and OG yonkou's.
They are not authorised to fight with yonkou's , because it will start a huge war.
Greenbull went to Wano to take luffy's head when thinking either they were weakened or luffy still isn't on yonkou standing.
You never see admirals out to hunt for Yonkou that's straight up madness.
Moment shanks came he bitched out.
 
#69
Greenbull flee from this battle otherwise he has to 4 yonko force combined (Luffy , law, Kidd , zoro , Shanks , benckman + other crews to gang him).
‘’He got outnumbers badly in wano.
 
#70
This is straight up not true.
Post Yamato Fight yamato already said , He's tired now.
Now how do you go tired and serious at the same time?
He was tiered, but the question Is how much. Oda said Luffy took heavy damage from Bellamy in DR, but I don't think no one really takes him that seriously.

Bruh first of all , Idc myself what other zoro fans says.
But Black blade , let's leave aside the controversial part of it , Is forged through battles , You have to be a swordsman skilled and strong enough to forge one.
Aramaki shows us zero swordsmanship.
Only time he fought , he fought using his Logia powers.
Every time mihawk is one screen , either black blade or swordsmanship is at focus.
About that:

(https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/thre...ad-story.55726/)

1-Set in the end of 19th century, where the Meiji Restoration just started, the hero, Aramaki Gennai (Karasawa Toshiaki) does not act so much like a "hero". He's a drunkard ronin (masterless samurai) who loves to lazy around in the house all day, and depend on his girlfriend for money. He doesn't care at all about anything or what happen in the world. Rumours has it that he has an unbelievably excellent skill of swordplay, but no one has ever seen him demonstrating it.

And a fuckin admiral , with similar feat to Mihawk. Is literally nobody.
Nobody fuckin is ready even to admit he has feats or something.
Not even Fujitora acknoledges any sort of such blades with him.
Black blade is one and the only proof of Mihawk superiority to Shanks.
If aramaki was anywhere near that , he had again zero reason to Bitch out against Shanks.

All I can see is defense of Aramaki bitching out of the fight or if Aramaki picked that black blade up from somewhere but Ya'll will still steamroll him with Black blade worthy , Ya'll plan to drag down the whole Swordsmanship community at the same time.


I'm not even gonna lie , Admirals fandom is desperate for feats now and oda is totally responsible for it. He wanked Haki way too much.

But you all don't need to cry for Haki feats as such.

Admirals have literally the most overpowered fruit and add basic haki to that. And they are ready to go.

Black blade is forged over the years of battle and experience.

Mihawk Fandom is sitting silently until he will do something , Ya'll just need to sit tight too.

Oda will deliver us admiral sooner or later.
I think we Just have to wait and see. Sooner or later we'll see It It as BB or not.
 
#71
Yep. Agreed. Also I would go so far to say Shanks must've used his absolute strongest CoC because he was quite enraged.

If that was his best CoC output I have no problem whatsoever anymore with the Twerkbull scene.

Greenbull is a clown character anyways based on him being almost 100% a future Sanji fight and Sanji oponnents are usually over the top clowns as opossed to the stoic badass fighter that Zoro would fight.
Weak ass admirals , Zoro solos 2 admirals .
 
#73
Because it's a new throughout the world.
Law , Kidd , Luffy fought together.
This was a 1v3 battle since the beginning.
He still went there alone.
Adding shanks changes nothing to 3 of the strong character were already there.

Aramaki went in confident he can take them on.
Bitched out when shanks arrived.

I'm not Against admiral agenda either.

It's simply that , Admirals are not allowed to fight yonkou without permission. Even Kizaru avoided it as much as he can and focussed on vegapunk.

Egghead lucci again reminded that he wasn't authorised to fight a yonkou.

That's the only reason I believe Greenbull bitched out.
By no means there's a huge tier gap between them.
Aramaki is just a complete idiot and a moron who thinks he can solo all people in Wano. He can get pizza diff by luffy if he ever reaches the crew. Assmirals are no longer the powerhouse here. Its the gorosei and yonko only.
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He would’ve still run away if Shanks was on his own.

It’s the strangest thing about this fan base, the ardent refusal to acknowledge basic facts fundamental to the world building.

The Yonkō are that powerful. By design. That’s their purpose in the worldbuilding.
Exactly. These assmiral turds cant accept the fact that assmirals are weak compared to yonko. They dont stand a chance. Even pizzaru was low diffed by Luffy. If not for the plot armor pizzaru would have been drowned in the ocean when luffy threw them at the sea
 
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#74
Even if we consider what you said there are still some unfavourable points to this theory:

1) GB entrance was cocky as hell, so much that the admiral fandom was cooking the famous "Greenbull will solo the alliance", yet when Shanks acted he suddenly become homesick (the same thing already happened to Akainu in Marineford, he went from Terminator mode to furniture mode in a flash when Shanks arrived).

2) Shanks was able to locate and hit GB from dozens and dozens of kilometers away, scaling Wano you can even argue he was basically in another country, frying him on the spot. That was a show of massive superiority and GB did the only logical thing to do at that point: run. This also links very well with the first point.

3) GB never planned for a fair fight, he planned to hit Luffy and co while they were still fatigued from the battle and hoped to replicate what he did vs King and Queen, a flawless fast victory vs 2 heavy injured high level targets, yet he was already struggling with the scabbards, maybe Luffy and co would have had to help, yet we will never know that. The point is that Shanks was overkill. If his haki is comparable to Joyboy what can GB hope to do?

4) GB being fried and escaping is also in line with all the other Shanks - admiral encounters we have seen so far, both canon and from OP movies: Akainu wasn't able to say anything to Shanks despite him being some meters away from him. Kizaru in film Red was speed blitzed and disarmed in a few sword exchanges, when Shanks released his haki both Kizaru and Shanks were powerless and now we have Shanks frying GB from abroad.

Imo what Oda wanted to show is pretty clear.
 
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#75
Admirals would solo the verse if it were not for those pesky rules that prohibit them from one shot offing every Yonko crew they encounter.
They first have to ask the Gorosei for permission, but they are too busy killing scholars and kneeling in Imus throne room. Too bad.
 
#76
No Aramaki did retreat not just because of shanks it's cuz he has his whole crew with him especially the fact that Greenbull is by himself. He was already having enough trouble taking on the few scabbards. The other few prior already died during the war plus they were still recovering from the previous battles.
 
#80
Aramaki as an admiral surely knows
This is a great explanation for a lot of stuff relating to Shanks:

- Akainu not trying to fight him at MF despite clearly being pissed at him for saving Luffy.
- Other Admirals still target Luffy so it's not a question of fear.
- Sengoku ending the MF war for Shanks.
 
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