Powers & Abilities Haki specialist

[Erkan12]

i agree it’s one piece hence I said oda won’t fuck up zoro dream like that. He gave mihawk a title for a reason so mihawk>=shanks for now

Luffy > Zolo, Luffy dream > Zolo dream. Shanks is more important character than Mihawk, not making Shanks more powerful than Mihawk would mean race for One Piece is weaker meaning Oda would ruin One Piece story if someone like Mihawk who gave up and failed long time ago for his pirate goals and instead become Marine Hunter to take his revenge, then become Warlord to live peacefully instead keep fighting, that kind of character simply can't be more powerful than a succesful Great Pirate such as Shanks who was succesful to compete with strongest pirates such as Kaido or WB, meanwhile Mihawk has to join forces with Croc and hide behind Buggy.

Shanks doesn't care about WGS title lmao, he has much better Emperor title, Oda literally says WGS Mihawk hide behind Emperor title. Emperor > WGS title.

 

[JoNdule]

As far as I understood this.

More Haki Application doesn't correlates to Strength of Haki.

- Sanji was able to dodge Katakuri thrown attacls without FS. His Base CoO stats are quite High. Probably even better than Luffy and Zoro.

- Zoro Base CoA is strong enough Damage Kaidou , Whereas Luffy Base CoA couldn't do shit to Kaidou. He needed Advanced Application yet Zoro out performed him in that department.

- Luffy Base CoC is probably Stronger than Zoro and Sanji (Non Existent) , Luffy tapped into CoC in pre time skip only. And in Fishmen Iand Oda said He could knock out 50k. Which probably higher than Zoro and non Existent Sanji CoC.

Now coming Advanced Application , Story changes Entirely.

- Luffy > Sanji (AdCoO , FS) (Sanji doesn't even have Advanced Application)
- Zoro > Luffy (AdCoC , Conqueror Coating)
- Luffy > Zoro (AdCoA , Internal Destruction) (Zoro doesnt have Advanced Application).

So far I used to think Ryou is the Advanced Application.
But Ryou is the flow of Haki , which Zoro has been doing since post time skip , Flowing his Haki into Swords.

Applications are Barrier and Internal Destruction.

Zoro > luffy adcoc lol
Based on what stupidity?

 

[warsame zaylai]

Luffy > Zolo, Luffy dream > Zolo dream. Shanks is more important character than Mihawk, not making Shanks more powerful than Mihawk would mean race for One Piece is weaker meaning Oda would ruin One Piece story if someone like Mihawk who gave up and failed long ago for his pirate goals and instead become Marine Hunter to take his revenge, that kind of character simply can't be more powerful than a succesful Great Pirate such as Shanks who was succesful to compete with strongest pirates such as Kaido or WB, meanwhile Mihawk has to join forces with Croc and hide behind Buggy.

Shanks don't care about WGS title lmao, he has much better Emperor title, Oda literally says WGS Mihawk hide behind Emperor title. Emperor > WGS title.

1) luffy dream isn’t shanks mate but if you’re pushing this nonsense then u must agree zoro>luffy because mihawk>=shanks
2)I agree shanks is more important character
3)shanks being weaker then mihawk isn’t gonna ruin the story but it will ruin the story if mihawk is weaker.
4)mihawk pirate goals ? Which goals
5)but buggy doesn’t order mihawk
6)oda didn’t say yonko title >WSS. He made It clear mihawk doesn’t care about yonko. It doesn’t matter if swordsman care about WSS or not but the vivre card states he is above any swordsman

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Zoro > luffy adcoc lol
Based on what stupidity?

Go ahead compare their AdCoC attack strength , I'll wait lol.

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1) luffy dream isn’t shanks mate but if you’re pushing this nonsense then u must agree zoro>luffy because mihawk>=shanks
2)I agree shanks is more important character
3)shanks being weaker then mihawk isn’t gonna ruin the story but it will ruin the story if mihawk is stronger.
4)mihawk pirate goals ? Which goals
5)but buggy doesn’t order mihawk
6)oda didn’t say yonko title >WSS. He made It clear mihawk doesn’t care about yonko. It doesn’t matter if swordsman care about WSS or not but the vivre card states he is above any swordsman

You're wasting your time.
His entire debate centre's around Blackbeard.

- Blackbeard Fought Ace , Ace > Yamato is his take
- Blackbeard fought Shanks in past and will in future , Shanks > Mihawk
- Blackbeard Fought Law , Bro now upscale Law.

You're wasting your energy on him. He doesn't care what oda says , he will always stay convinced he's headcanon is true even at EoS lol.

 

[Kiri]

Since Non-Great pirate Mihawk himself admitted Great Pirates Emperors level and Roger level > his level there is no possibility of that happening.

I hope this is a bait because, you would have to be incredibly stupid to unironically post that dog-shit argument unless it was satire.

I'm sure it is though

 

[warsame zaylai]

Go ahead compare their AdCoC attack strength , I'll wait lol.

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You're wasting your time.
His entire debate centre's around Blackbeard.

- Blackbeard Fought Ace , Ace > Yamato is his take
- Blackbeard fought Shanks in past and will in future , Shanks > Mihawk
- Blackbeard Fought Law , Bro now upscale Law.

You're wasting your energy on him. He doesn't care what oda says , he will always stay convinced he's headcanon is true even at EoS lol.

I hope this is a bait because, you would have to be incredibly stupid to unironically post that dog-shit argument unless it was satire.

I'm sure it is though

lol he can still push BB>mihawk>=shanks in the end because Bb will get stronger unlike the other two.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

lol he can still push BB>mihawk>=shanks in the end because Bb will get stronger unlike the other two.

What if his strength is just glass canon infront of Haki users.
People already speculate BB will be playing dirty against Shanks. Shanks is like Oda fav , if Oda can do Kaidou dirty than BB is more prone to that shit

 

[Roo]

fan terms such as “advance x haki” are misnomers because they do not necessarily mean better haki.

 

[warsame zaylai]

What if his strength is just glass canon infront of Haki users.
People already speculate BB will be playing dirty against Shanks. Shanks is like Oda fav , if Oda can do Kaidou dirty than BB is more prone to that shit

Don’t think so bro BB will have top tier haki possibly greater then anyone in the story

fan terms such as “advance x haki” are misnomers because they do not necessarily mean better haki.

yep Big mum doesn’t have advanced observation but her CoO >katakuri who has advanced observation

 

[Erkan12]

I hope this is a bait because, you would have to be incredibly stupid to unironically post that dog-shit argument unless it was satire.

I'm sure it is though

Mihawk says Emperor level > his level. His fans still can't read or incredibly delusional like ZKK

1) luffy dream isn’t shanks mate but if you’re pushing this nonsense then u must agree zoro>luffy because mihawk>=shanks
2)I agree shanks is more important character
3)shanks being weaker then mihawk isn’t gonna ruin the story but it will ruin the story if mihawk is weaker.
4)mihawk pirate goals ? Which goals
5)but buggy doesn’t order mihawk
6)oda didn’t say yonko title >WSS. He made It clear mihawk doesn’t care about yonko. It doesn’t matter if swordsman care about WSS or not but the vivre card states he is above any swordsman

Luffy's main goal is OP and PK so he can accomplish his dream by using OP and PK title, Shanks is one of the 3 main players for OP and PK.

Mihawk isn't nearly important as that.

A Zolo opponent being stronger than a main player for OP would ruin the story so of course Shanks > Mihawk.

Making Shanks > Mihawk wouldn't ruin underling Zolo, Zolo can still be WGS.

Mihawk doesn't care Emperor title but hides behind it? LMAO.

Correct info: Shanks doesn't care about WGS title.

Shanks is not HIDING behind WGS title.

Mihawk HIDES behind Emperor title.

Emperor title > WGS title.

Don't cry about this.

 

[warsame zaylai]

Luffy's dream is OP, Shanks is one of the 2 main players for OP.
Mihawk isn't nearly important as that.

A Zolo opponent being stronger than a main player for OP would ruin the story so of course Shanks > Mihawk.

Shanks doesn't care about WGS title as well.
But difference is Shanks is not HIDING behind WGS title.

Mihawk HIDES behind Emperor title.

Emperor title > WGS title.

Don't cry about this.

1)I agree but shanks is a stepping stone like how mihawk is a stepping stone for zoro.
2)nope it wouldn’t ruin It the story because luffy will fight stronger opponent then shanks but it will ruin the story if mihawk is weaker because what’s the point of zolo dream ?
3)he doesn’t need to care about the title lol
Oda stated multiple times mihawk > any swordsman in the story (except the older generation). Idc if u think mihawk is hiding or not but oda words >your headcanon so I’m gonna follow what he says.
4)oda made it clear he doesn’t care about the yonko title. He had mihawk saying it himself
5) I have shanks the strongest yonko so WSS>Yonko for now

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Don’t think so bro BB will have top tier haki possibly greater then anyone in the story

There's a reason why he been given multiple fruits instead of haki , there's legit no haki feat so far.
What makes you think out of blue it will retconned and given best haki lol

 

[Erkan12]

1)I agree but shanks is a stepping stone like how mihawk is a stepping stone for zoro.
2)nope it wouldn’t ruin It the story because luffy will fight stronger opponent then shanks but it will ruin the story if mihawk is weaker because what’s the point of zolo dream ?
3)he doesn’t need to care about the title lol
Oda stated multiple times mihawk > any swordsman in the story (except the older generation). Idc if u think mihawk is hiding or not but oda words >your headcanon so I’m gonna follow what he says.
4)oda made it clear he doesn’t care about the yonko title. He had mihawk saying it himself
5) I have shanks the strongest yonko so WSS>Yonko for now

If there will be stronger opponents than Shanks via headcanon then same headcanon can be said for Mihawk, there will be stronger swordsman opponent than Mihawk, whats your excuse then?

You guys have Mihawk obsession lmao.

Swordsmanship doesn't include Haki:

Just like Martial Art technique doesn't.

Everyone needs Haki but not everyone needs swordsmanship skills. 2 different trainings.

Zolo was still a swordsman while he couldn't use Haki.

I also just exposed your lie about ''Mihawk not caring about Emperor title''

Mihawk cares it so much he HIDES behind it.

Meanwhile Shanks doesn't care about WGS.


Mihawk cares about Emperor title a lot but he doesn't have the guts to try to be one, its that simple.

Thats why Shanks's Emperor title > WGS Mihawk's title.

Shanks has better title, better portrayal, better feats than Mihawk.

Shanks > Mihawk.

 

[warsame zaylai]

There's a reason why he been given multiple fruits instead of haki , there's legit no haki feat so far.
What makes you think out of blue it will retconned and given best haki lol

Oda said haki >DF for a reason

If there will be stronger opponents than Shanks via headcanon then same headcanon can be said for Mihawk, there will be stronger swordsman opponent than Mihawk, whats your excuse then?

You guys have Mihawk obsession lmao.

Swordsmanship doesn't include Haki:

Just like Martial Art technique doesn't.

Everyone needs Haki but not everyone needs swordsmanship skills. 2 different trainings.

Zolo was still a swordsman while he couldn't use Haki.

I also just exposed your lie about ''Mihawk not caring about Emperor title''

Mihawk cares it so much he HIDES behind it.

Meanwhile Shanks doesn't care about WGS.


Mihawk cares about Emperor title a lot but he doesn't have the guts to try to be one, its that simple.

Thats why Shanks's Emperor title > WGS Mihawk's title.

Shanks has better title, better portrayal, better feats than Mihawk.

Shanks > Mihawk.

u said all that just for me to bring this panel and say Mihawk>any swordsman in the story lol

Also is zoro not swordsman anymore ?

 

[HeroesNZ]

These specialisms aren't necessarily outdated but they don't mean much in the grand scheme of things.

Zoro has the strongest CoA amongst the M3. He and Luffy have gone down different mastery trees for CoA which do not overlap. Luffy went down internal destruction route and Zoro went down Ryuo regulation route. Luffy doesn't ever control the strength of his CoA - a jet pistol is a jet pistol. Zoro is constantly controlling how much CoA he is releasing so the same attack can be completely different in AP.

No character has shown both Luffy and Zoro's CoA paths. Luffy's is Rayleigh, Roger, Shanks. Zoro's is Mihawk, Oden, Ryuuma. Zoro's path will culminate in a black blade.

CoC-wise, Luffy's is stronger but Zoro uses it more frequently, so not sure if Oda intends for Zoro's to surpass Luffy's in the future. Also not sure if CoC is related to forming a black blade. Zoro can do the same with CoC that he can with CoA it's worth noting - he regulates the strength of it; hence KOH Santoryu vs 3 Dragon Style. This is something that say Kaido can only do with alcohol. So Luffy's average CoC strength is higher but that's not to say Zoro can't increase the strength of his to surpass that.

Luffy has the best CoO despite Sanji being a CoO specialist. Sanji's CoO seems to be tied to the power of love as he only displays better than average CoO feats when women are involved - doesn't have any battle utility yet. Maybe he'll gain some kind of advanced form of CoO. Zoro's CoO is average but perhaps he'll gain some kind of CoO buff vs Shiryu. The M3 aren't tied down to their specialisms and they don't correlate between each other, e.g., Luffy's CoC being his specialism doesn't mean his CoO can't be better than the others' for example. So it really means very little.

 

[Erkan12]

u said all that just for me to bring this panel and say Mihawk>any swordsman in the story lol

Also is zoro not swordsman anymore ?

No you just run away from argument after you got debunked.

Being stronger Martial Artist/Swordsman and being stronger overall (Haki difference) are 2 different things:

Haki isn't included.

Aokiji vs Garp, same level Martial Artist, but Garp is stronger due to Conqueror Haki level difference.

Shanks vs Mihawk, Mihawk better Swordsman but Shanks is stronger due to Conqueror Haki level difference.

 

[warsame zaylai]

No you just run away from argument after you got debunked.

Being stronger Martial Artist/Swordsman and being stronger overall (Haki difference) are 2 different things:

Haki isn't included.

Aokiji vs Garp, same level Martial Artist, but Garp is stronger due to Conqueror Haki level difference.

Shanks vs Mihawk, Mihawk better Swordsman but Shanks is stronger due to Conqueror Haki level difference.

But u need haki to be a better swordsman ? Zoro was called sword master or someshit like that after he unlock CoC coating ?

 

[Erkan12]

But u need haki to be a better swordsman ? Zoro was called sword master or someshit like that after he unlock CoC coating ?

Haki is needed to be stronger overall, nothing to do with improving the fighting style;

 

[warsame zaylai]

Haki is needed to be stronger overall, nothing to do with improving the fighting style;

Kinda does cuz zoro said he learned sword skills from mihawk which was haki

 

[Erkan12]

Kinda does cuz zoro said he learned sword skills from mihawk which was haki

He never said that shit. He just remembered Mihawk telling him he should learn Haki to protect his sword which is something even Apoo, Bellamy and other fodders learn to protect themselves nothing to do with swordsmanship.