Powers & Abilities Haki- the kryptonite of devil fruits

#1
devil fruits users have always been portrayed to be invincible in early onepiece

but slower and slower as we progressed to the new world we got to know how characters like mihawk and shanks stand at the top of the food chain despite having these " invincible " devil fruit users in the competition

kaido blatantly saying that haki surpasses all cause roger conquered the world using this ability

luffy further proving this as he uses haki as the main ability to overcome kaido's df ability


- haki is also the ability which gives normal humans the skill of interacting with logias



- haki doesnt only do that , but it can also negate the df user's hax abilities

we will use law as a major example in these points

- it was stated in punk hazard that being a haki user can make u block law's amputate


But ofc just being a haki user doesnt make u being capable of blocking devil fruit attacks
it also depends on how intense the haki and df relate to each other

if ur haki is greater than the df ability , then it will surely negate the effect
but if the df ability is greater than the opponent's haki , the opponent will get affected either way

u can use vergo as an example here
- vergo was stronger than smoker in haki
but law's df ability still cut vergo in half

this isnt something like vergo being weaker than his usual self
it was simply law who increased the power of his amputate to the point that he can affect even vergo
he simply increased the output of his df


doffy also taunted law by hyping vergo's haki but as u can see , law was a lot stronger than doffy realised and thus he went past vergo using his df ability
its not like he applied haki to his sword or somethin as a lot of people believe
applying haki to ur sword is another technique which swordsmen actually have to master and law hasnt showed any of that in his battle

and its not just techniques like amputate , later we saw doffy being able to negate MES too

it went from a spatial ability to a cheek scratch for doffy who partially dodged it


then in wano we learn , direct attacks arent the only thing that u can block with haki
Even if ur body is affected by a hax technique like shambles

u can easily negate that by coating urself with haki

law also later uses the same ability to negate doc q's disease

and haki countering devil fruits doesnt really stop at base powers
Even awakened techniques can be blocked by haki

law's swords are supposed to be intangible but blackbeard was able to block his attack with a hakified gura

so he succesfully blocked an awakened attack with haki

There are 2 types of attacks which can be negated by haki
1. Attacks that come from the opponent in cqc
2. Attacks that directly affect the opponent

mes , amputate , KROOM comes in the former type of attacks

Shambles , body exchange is the latter

and considering Blackbeard blocked KROOM ( an awakened technique ) with mere COA

I think a lot of acoc users can counter crazy hax techniques when they are actually trying to defend themselves with haki

shanks’ conquerors haki basically ripped greenbul out of his tree form
so even simple conquerors haki can disorient the user to the point of them dropping their ability


The conclusion :

- haki is the strongest ability of the verse
- haki can touch the actual body of df users
- haki can block direct devil fruit attacks
- haki can negate different types of devil fruit hax

it is truly the greatest counter to devil fruits as an ability

And there’s a reason why most people on the top are very skilled in haki instead of fully relying on their devil fruits
 
#5
This is a good point to understand regarding CQC and speed/mobility
Qualities like this make CoO equally important to CoC, without the skill you simply cannot create an opportunity to use your firepower
 
#6
It really sucks, especially since haki is one of the worst power systems I’ve ever encountered. Not even Toei animators know wtf is happening if you read the discourse on Twitter.

Logias in particular were the pinnacle of Oda’s power system, truly unique fluid body powers that made for specific encounters and creative battles.

Now everything is just BWAH BIG PUNCH LIGHTNING BWAH
 
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#7
Haki is not the kryptonite of devil fruit. Df users can still use their df perfectly fine against haki user. Df is like the hulk buster armor, having it doesn’t really guarantee a victory but it is sure better to have it.
 
#11
devil fruits users have always been portrayed to be invincible in early onepiece

but slower and slower as we progressed to the new world we got to know how characters like mihawk and shanks stand at the top of the food chain despite having these " invincible " devil fruit users in the competition

kaido blatantly saying that haki surpasses all cause roger conquered the world using this ability

luffy further proving this as he uses haki as the main ability to overcome kaido's df ability


- haki is also the ability which gives normal humans the skill of interacting with logias



- haki doesnt only do that , but it can also negate the df user's hax abilities

we will use law as a major example in these points

- it was stated in punk hazard that being a haki user can make u block law's amputate


But ofc just being a haki user doesnt make u being capable of blocking devil fruit attacks
it also depends on how intense the haki and df relate to each other

if ur haki is greater than the df ability , then it will surely negate the effect
but if the df ability is greater than the opponent's haki , the opponent will get affected either way

u can use vergo as an example here
- vergo was stronger than smoker in haki
but law's df ability still cut vergo in half

this isnt something like vergo being weaker than his usual self
it was simply law who increased the power of his amputate to the point that he can affect even vergo
he simply increased the output of his df


doffy also taunted law by hyping vergo's haki but as u can see , law was a lot stronger than doffy realised and thus he went past vergo using his df ability
its not like he applied haki to his sword or somethin as a lot of people believe
applying haki to ur sword is another technique which swordsmen actually have to master and law hasnt showed any of that in his battle

and its not just techniques like amputate , later we saw doffy being able to negate MES too

it went from a spatial ability to a cheek scratch for doffy who partially dodged it


then in wano we learn , direct attacks arent the only thing that u can block with haki
Even if ur body is affected by a hax technique like shambles

u can easily negate that by coating urself with haki

law also later uses the same ability to negate doc q's disease

and haki countering devil fruits doesnt really stop at base powers
Even awakened techniques can be blocked by haki

law's swords are supposed to be intangible but blackbeard was able to block his attack with a hakified gura

so he succesfully blocked an awakened attack with haki

There are 2 types of attacks which can be negated by haki
1. Attacks that come from the opponent in cqc
2. Attacks that directly affect the opponent

mes , amputate , KROOM comes in the former type of attacks

Shambles , body exchange is the latter

and considering Blackbeard blocked KROOM ( an awakened technique ) with mere COA

I think a lot of acoc users can counter crazy hax techniques when they are actually trying to defend themselves with haki

shanks’ conquerors haki basically ripped greenbul out of his tree form
so even simple conquerors haki can disorient the user to the point of them dropping their ability


The conclusion :

- haki is the strongest ability of the verse
- haki can touch the actual body of df users
- haki can block direct devil fruit attacks
- haki can negate different types of devil fruit hax

it is truly the greatest counter to devil fruits as an ability

And there’s a reason why most people on the top are very skilled in haki instead of fully relying on their devil fruits
But that is only for those at the peak of the top which is like the Yonkou, even Yonkou crews can't negate Df hax that much. Unless you are Roger or Whitebeard you won't have enough haki to stop hax.
 
#12
This is a good point to understand regarding CQC and speed/mobility
Qualities like this make CoO equally important to CoC, without the skill you simply cannot create an opportunity to use your firepower
She really laughing like Michael Jackson. Hit her with that hee hee
 
#14
Kairoseki/the sea are the DF kryptonites, not Haki. This is spoonfed to us in Chapter 1. What a horrendous agenda-driven post. :lusalty:

this isnt something like vergo being weaker than his usual self
it was simply law who increased the power of his amputate to the point that he can affect even vergo
he simply increased the output of his df

doffy also taunted law by hyping vergo's haki but as u can see , law was a lot stronger than doffy realised and thus he went past vergo using his df ability
its not like he applied haki to his sword or somethin as a lot of people believe
applying haki to ur sword is another technique which swordsmen actually have to master and law hasnt showed any of that in his battle
Where is it said Law didn’t use Haki with his Amputate? Why are you assuming shit out of your ass?

We clearly see Law affect Logias with his DF ability. You can't do that unless you combine your DF usage with use Haki.

law's swords are supposed to be intangible but blackbeard was able to block his attack with a hakified gura

so he succesfully blocked an awakened attack with haki
You can't use Haki to block KROOM you twat. BM who has passive Haki armor couldn't block KROOM at all. BB did not use Hakified Gura, not even the anime supports your ill-conceived headcanon.
 
#15
and haki countering devil fruits doesnt really stop at base powers
Even awakened techniques can be blocked by haki

law's swords are supposed to be intangible but blackbeard was able to block his attack with a hakified gura

so he succesfully blocked an awakened attack with haki

There are 2 types of attacks which can be negated by haki
1. Attacks that come from the opponent in cqc
2. Attacks that directly affect the opponent

mes , amputate , KROOM comes in the former type of attacks

Shambles , body exchange is the latter

and considering Blackbeard blocked KROOM ( an awakened technique ) with mere COA

I think a lot of acoc users can counter crazy hax techniques when they are actually trying to defend themselves with haki

shanks’ conquerors haki basically ripped greenbul out of his tree form
so even simple conquerors haki can disorient the user to the point of them dropping their ability


The conclusion :

- haki is the strongest ability of the verse
- haki can touch the actual body of df users
- haki can block direct devil fruit attacks
- haki can negate different types of devil fruit hax

it is truly the greatest counter to devil fruits as an ability

And there’s a reason why most people on the top are very skilled in haki instead of fully relying on their devil fruits
Another good one:



To be honest, Big mom's top tier Haki failed to block Law's Awakening, and failed to stop turning into magnet by Kid's Awakening.



Mostly because probably Law's Haki isn't that weak as well especially while using Awakening to overextend himself and his Haki in that moment similar to he overextend himself while countering Doc Q's DF Hax.

And Kid also awakened Conqueror Haki before Wano.

Awakening might be related to Haki mastery and better Haki as well depending on the DF type, even though Dof wasn't very skilled at it, he still had Conqueror Haki so even he isn't an exception as well as his string DF isn't that powerful so it might not require same Haki level just like Enma and other special sword difference.

Big mom and Kaido stopping Law's teleportation due to their superior Haki is a great feat but then Big mom failing to stop Law's and Kid's Awakening attacks proves they can still fight them back with Awakened DF abilities.

If my idea about Awakening is true, then it requires some degree of Haki mastery and better Haki depending on the DF type, then that makes sense why Law's Awakening couldn't be blocked by Big mom's superior Haki while Law was using his all.
 
#17
u can use vergo as an example here
- vergo was stronger than smoker in haki
but law's df ability still cut vergo in half

this isnt something like vergo being weaker than his usual self
it was simply law who increased the power of his amputate to the point that he can affect even vergo
he simply increased the output of his df
Actually they were pretty even maybe Smoker even stronger...

It is hard to take anything from Law's DF interactions since Oda is so inconsistent about it. My best bet would be that Law getting Smoker on his blind spot didn't allowed Smoker to protect himself with haki. Also when Vergo used full body haki instead of focusing on key points like Smoker was previously doing he made his haki weaker to the point it didn't overcame Law's ability.

Also keep in mind that previously Law was not even trying to do a shit against Vergo.

Either that or having his heart back made him stronger?

So fucking inconsistent by Oda.
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and haki countering devil fruits doesnt really stop at base powers
Even awakened techniques can be blocked by haki
That was quake powers. Weird shit inconsistent of Oda. Big Mom has the same haki coat that prevented shambles from working yet she couldn't prevent Law's awakening because it was designed to be like that but somehow Teach's quake ability can... And we are unaware of any hakified quake attack. We never saw shit working like that.
 
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