Powers & Abilities Haki under Mind Control

[ImmaIvanoM]

The Seraphims are under control of the command chips. Domi Reversi hijacks whoever for Imu. In both instances Oda has not addressed Haki.

In fact it’s implied that Seraphims will become even stronger than the originals and Domi Reversi makes you stronger, therefore in both instances the character’s haki INCREASES under mind control or the very least remains exactly the same somehow.

This is weird right? How can your will being hijacked result in you somehow having greater Haki?

Both Rayleigh and Garp say that doubt makes your haki weaker, that conviction makes you stronger. So maybe the idea is that mind control removes your doubts since you’re basically a robot so that somehow makes your haki stronger.

But that leaves the issue of “whose will is the haki coming from”? Is it still your own willpower if it’s another person fully subsuming your being to make you do something? How can another person’s willpower over you somehow result in your own will getting stronger?

(Or Oda hasnt thought about any of this at all)

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

(Or Oda hasnt thought about any of this at all)

That's where I'm at, I don't expect Oda to address haki on a technical level at all. I can see for the Seraphim that, maybe, their haki isn't as strong as it could be? Not reaching their full potential because they aren't acting on their own free will. Their haki's still probably strong but not as strong as its fullest possible levels.

For Domi Reversi? No clue. Big angry demon buff is probably all Oda was thinking with it.

 

[Reborn]

That's where I'm at, I don't expect Oda to address haki on a technical level at all. I can see for the Seraphim that, maybe, their haki isn't as strong as it could be? Not reaching their full potential because they aren't acting on their own free will. Their haki's still probably strong but not as strong as its fullest possible levels.

For Domi Reversi? No clue. Big angry demon buff is probably all Oda was thinking with it.

Or it's more of a physical stats buff and decline in haki

 

[ElderOnitar]

Imu is amping Rocks with his own haki.

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Or it's more of a physical stats buff and decline in haki

Any decline in haki would result in an overall decline in strength since the haki contributes like 90% of your combat capacity in most high lepvrl fights

 

[Cruxroux]

People tend to forget Marines had their own version of Haki pre time skip, " Something ". I don't remember the name.

But how one can take it's body like iron, send flying slashes, sky walk and what not.

Seraphims can be called the peak of human limits, hence their rokushiki combined with already given fruit can prove fatal.

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Any decline in haki would result in an overall decline in strength since the haki contributes like 90% of your combat capacity in most high lepvrl fights

Meanwhile Law and Kidd.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

But that leaves the issue of “whose will is the haki coming from”? Is it still your own willpower if it’s another person fully subsuming your being to make you do something? How can another person’s willpower over you somehow result in your own will getting stronger?

Obviously not the person's own haki, we saw Xebec fight against being taken over and say that he is fading. Domi reversi is obviously Imu's haki

 

[ImmaIvanoM]

Obviously not the person's own haki, we saw Xebec fight against being taken over and say that he is fading. Domi reversi is obviously Imu's haki

Okay. What about the seraphims.

Vegapunk thinks the adult seraphims will surpass their originals. Meaning the adult seraphims will even have better haki than the originals. Yet they are puppets of whoever commands them

 

[MonsterKaido]

Oda doesn't think haki much is logical sense. It's meant to be co related to will power but that hardly matters in bunch of cases.