Versus Battle Hakuki vs Ouki

[God Buggy]

Hakuki vs Ouki

Both get a 100k army.

Hakuki : Hardest general of the Qin 6 to deal with for Renpa, he could not bait him, he could always see right through people, Renpa getting countered became the norm in all his battles with him. Shared similarities with Ousen. @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung made a nice thread on the man.
In real life, he was undefeated.

Ouki : Nothing much to say, we know what kind of monster Ouki is.
He was also said to be the most powerful of the six generals.

Thoughts?

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[Elder Lee Hung]

Would be a tough one but Hakuki would take the win. Renpa praising Hakuki over Ouki is pretty much direct confirmation that he is the strongest of the Qin 6.

 

[Owl Ki]

In an equal, pure army vs army engagement, my money is on Hakuki. Granted, this is mostly based on the bloke's hype but Hakuki has always been portrayed as the foremost individual amongst the Qin Six.

Hakuki earns a tactical victory, high/extreme diff.

 

[Formerly Seth]

Hakuki vs Ouki

Both get a 100k army.

Hakuki : Hardest general of the Qin 6 to deal with for Renpa, he could not bait him, he could always see right through people, Renpa getting countered became the norm in all his battles with him. Shared similarities with Ousen. @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung made a nice thread on the man.
In real life, he was undefeated.

Ouki : Nothing much to say, we know what kind of monster Ouki is.
He was also said to be the most powerful of the six generals.

Thoughts?

@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung @TheKnightOfTheSea @Da evil Who @Owl Ki @MarineHQ62 @Jailer
@Shanks @RayanOO @Seth @Blackbeard @Topi Jerami @General Duke Hyuo @Bepo

The deeper I dived into Kingdom the more I understood how different the original 6 GGs levels were.

If we go by the feats/what we got to know. Hakuki is reverse Riboku ( I mean Riboku but successful ).

Although many people will probably write Ouki off. I'd give it 2 scenarios.

Scenario 1: Hakuki gets to prepare for this for days. He wins.

Scenario 2: They bump into each other and Ouki tells Hakuki he looks pale as fuck today. Ouki wins.

Extreme diff any scenario.

I think Ouki's greatness and his army's hype were forgotten since he died relatively early for a character with his relevance/hype. Wasn't Ouki's army said to be the best? At least cavalry.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

I think in a direct head on confrontation, army to army, Ouki would win. However, Hakuki wouldn't fight a battle like that, instead I think he would fight a long war of attrition, relying on forts and attempting to demoralize Ouki's troops.

Hakuki should win extreme difficulty 6/10 times. If Ouki has either Tou or Kyou, the battle will go alot differently

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Hakuki vs Ouki

Both get a 100k army.

Hakuki : Hardest general of the Qin 6 to deal with for Renpa, he could not bait him, he could always see right through people, Renpa getting countered became the norm in all his battles with him. Shared similarities with Ousen. @Fleet Admiral Lee Hung made a nice thread on the man.
In real life, he was undefeated.

Ouki : Nothing much to say, we know what kind of monster Ouki is.
He was also said to be the most powerful of the six generals.

Thoughts?

@Fleet Admiral Lee Hung @TheKnightOfTheSea @Da evil Who @Owl Ki @MarineHQ62 @Jailer
@Shanks @RayanOO @Seth @Blackbeard @Topi Jerami @General Duke Hyuo @Bepo

Was Hakuki the Qin General that buried alive 400,000 Zhao soldiers?

 

[God Buggy]

Was Hakuki the Qin General that buried alive 400,000 Zhao soldiers?

Yes.

 

[Elder Lee Hung]

I already elaborated on Haku Ki in the past, but we should not underestimate Haku Ki in a straight army v army clash. I doubt Haku Ki was named the leader of the Qin 6 simply because he was allowed prep time in all of his battles.

 

[TheKnightOfTheSea]

Was Hakuki the Qin General that buried alive 400,000 Zhao soldiers?

yeah, at the battle of Chouhei. For the very first two years, it was Ouki & Hakuki vs Renpa. Eventually, Renpa lost the favor of the Zhao monarchy and he was replaced by a younger general named Chou Katsu. Choukatsu was easily slain by Ouki in a duel, and the remaining Zhao soldiers surrendered. Then Hakuki killed them.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Depends on how great of a fighter Haku Ki was.
Ouki has shown greatness in combat.

 

[kom5]

Haku Ki hands down

Riboku easily outplaed Ouki strategically
Haku Ki is too smart for this

Haku Ki would win would he can like Ousen or Riboku simultane the battlefield before the fight even starts

Not a chance for Ouki

 

[Yo Tan Wa]

This is easily in favour of Hakuki. Hakuki has the best raw hype and portrayal, he stood above rest of Qin 6 GGs including Ouki.

I think real discussion starts if it is Hakuki vs Ouki + young Tou. Then i guess it depends on how prepared Hakuki is. Renpa compared Ousen to Hakuki, and we know Ousen never fights a battle he can't win.

Not to say i underestimate Ouki +early Tou, but im willing to still bet on Hakuki to win this fight more than not as long as terrain benefits him.
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at the battle of Chouhei. For the very first two years, it was Ouki & Hakuki vs Renpa. Eventually, Renpa lost the favor of the Zhao monarchy and he was replaced by a younger general named Chou Katsu

I wouldn't be surprised if Hakuki was betting on this very thing to happen. I can easily imagine Hakuki stalemating the battle long enough(intentionally) where Renpa was going to get replaced and they win an easy battle.

 

[Jailer]

Hakuki can outplay Ouki, but we also don't know much of Hakuki's personal army while we know of Tou at least who Ouki considered him pretty much no less in talent than himself.

Could be extreme diff either way, toss up.

 

[Dark Admiral]

Hakuki was considered to be the leader of the Qin's 6 GG. The only person to beat him was himself in the end.
I'll say high diff win for Hakuki.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Hakuki is a trash character but no doubt this dude got insane hype. Probably among top 3 greatest generals of the Warring States period after Riboku and Gakuki.

Hakuki is like Ousen but physically stronger most likely. Being the leader of Qin's 6 instead of Ouki which speaks for his capability as a general. If this is a head-on combat, Ouki and his army would mauls Hakuki and his army. If the battle is carefully planned and prepared beforehand then Hakuki would win the battle with extreme difficulty through strategies and tactics.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

I give the edge to Hakuki in an equal, pure army vs army engagement like @Owl Ki said. In this scenario I would maybe give the edge to Hakuki against anyone because if Hara will actually make him undefeated in the manga in a period of constant battles against some of the strongest generals ever, that would be mad hype.

Are you gonna make a Hakuki vs Gakuki thread at some point? I think that would be a cool match. The leader of Qin's 6 Great Generals vs the Military God.

 

[Phoenix]

Renpa kinda confirmed that Hakuki was the best.

Also, trivia which isn't really a spoiler as it won't be in the story but I will put it in as a spoiler nonetheless

Spoiler

The best 4 generals of the Warring States period were Riboku, Hakuki, Ousen and Renpa. In which Hakuki was considered to be the most fearsome(could be that he was the best or could be because of the his cold approach like in the chouhei incident)

 

[God Buggy]

This is easily in favour of Hakuki.

I give Hakuki the edge and I see Ouki getting outplayed but no way in hell this is "easily" in Hakuki's favor lol. Both armies equalized, nobody in Kingdom can beat Ouki easily, heck there are only a few generals that can beat Ouki at all.

 

[Shanks]

HakuKi takes this. No feats available but manga portrayal is sufficient for this result. He's also the leader of Qin Six.

Riboku says including himself there's no one who can best Renpa in battlefield. While Renpa said there's only HakuKi who he finds most difficult to deal with.

Now there's narrative for HakuKi to be only undefeated man in the series who in a long career and going against most of the states to remain undefeated.

 

[Great General Kanki]

I think they're about equal. Hakuki has the hype as leader of the 6, which is great but can also be explainable without him being the strongest. The same can be said for Renpa's hype of him.

Meanwhile, we do have Gika telling us that Ouki was "said to be the strongest of the 6". So I don't know. Likely a stalemate.