Han’s Strongest Warrior, Yoko Yoko: General Power Level Discussion
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Alright so with the reveal that Yoko seemingly has a very important lineage:
The possibility that Yoko isn’t just some warrior but is actually a former high ranking military figure of some kind is now basically confirmed. I still think my theory of him being ex Qi military, now living in “hiding” under a false identity due to Qi being crushed as a war mongering state seems more and more likely. Yoko may legit be a former Qi general or Great General.
Anyway what do you guys think this means as far as power levels go?
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The possibility that Yoko isn’t just some warrior but is actually a former high ranking military figure of some kind is now basically confirmed. I still think my theory of him being ex Qi military, now living in “hiding” under a false identity due to Qi being crushed as a war mongering state seems more and more likely. Yoko may legit be a former Qi general or Great General.
Anyway what do you guys think this means as far as power levels go?
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If he was a member of Qi, he wouldn’t need to hide. They are a powerful state, you don’t need to hide. He’d be well protected and well respected.
I think it’s probably a repeat of how Hara has often written the story. He was high up, in a prestigious family, from a minor state that was crushed. Without a home and with a long line of enemies, he had nowhere to go and that’s where he met Rakua’kan.
As for power levels, I don’t actually think it changes too much yet because we are still left with questions on how his journey will go from here. Is he already a monster who is at his peak? Or is he now going to be able to fulfill his potential and become the monster he was capable of becoming? The end game for him is for sure to be a beast, whenever that end comes.
Put a gun to my head and I’ll go with 94-88-85 stats for now.
I think it’s probably a repeat of how Hara has often written the story. He was high up, in a prestigious family, from a minor state that was crushed. Without a home and with a long line of enemies, he had nowhere to go and that’s where he met Rakua’kan.
As for power levels, I don’t actually think it changes too much yet because we are still left with questions on how his journey will go from here. Is he already a monster who is at his peak? Or is he now going to be able to fulfill his potential and become the monster he was capable of becoming? The end game for him is for sure to be a beast, whenever that end comes.
Put a gun to my head and I’ll go with 94-88-85 stats for now.
It stated that he got persecuted because of his 'lineage', as in he received this treatment before coming into contact with RKK.
While defecting to another state could be seen as dishonorable, I don't think it would warrant that kind of treatment, as in to that extent.
Defecting wasn't entirely uncommon and there wouldn't be the need to constantly hide his face.
The way Hara has written this seems to suggest that it goes a lot deeper, a sort of special grudgde they held against him, maybe a xiongnu or royal descendant.
While defecting to another state could be seen as dishonorable, I don't think it would warrant that kind of treatment, as in to that extent.
Defecting wasn't entirely uncommon and there wouldn't be the need to constantly hide his face.
The way Hara has written this seems to suggest that it goes a lot deeper, a sort of special grudgde they held against him, maybe a xiongnu or royal descendant.
The state of Qi is absolutely not safe from smaller states lol. The likes of Man’U leading 50k would absolutely be a big threat to Han.
Anyway I think yall are misunderstanding my argument so let me post the entire thing again:
So my theory is that Yoko is former Qi military/Qi military lineage, but he knowingly and willingly abandoned the state of Qi.
The fact that Yoko was married with a child may indicate that he simply wanted to live a quiet humble life and not be a part of the warmonger state of Qi back when Qi was hated by all of the other states. It could have been a political marriage to some high born girl, or Yoko could have fallen in love with a “lower class” girl and abandoned his famous lineage to live a quiet a humble life. This theory would assume the latter.
However, Yoko leaving Qi wouldn’t have erased all of the hatred that the other people in China had for he and his bloodline, and so he gets bounties placed on his head, accept now he can’t return to Qi because he already foresook all his claims in Qi by leaving. So now he has a bounty on his head and nowhere to run to for protection, he is simply relying on himself to defend his family, which obviously wouldn’t be possible for long.
His wife and son get killed, but his own life is saved by Rakuakan and so that’s when he pledges his life to Rakuakan.
Anyway I think yall are misunderstanding my argument so let me post the entire thing again:
So my theory is that Yoko is former Qi military/Qi military lineage, but he knowingly and willingly abandoned the state of Qi.
The fact that Yoko was married with a child may indicate that he simply wanted to live a quiet humble life and not be a part of the warmonger state of Qi back when Qi was hated by all of the other states. It could have been a political marriage to some high born girl, or Yoko could have fallen in love with a “lower class” girl and abandoned his famous lineage to live a quiet a humble life. This theory would assume the latter.
However, Yoko leaving Qi wouldn’t have erased all of the hatred that the other people in China had for he and his bloodline, and so he gets bounties placed on his head, accept now he can’t return to Qi because he already foresook all his claims in Qi by leaving. So now he has a bounty on his head and nowhere to run to for protection, he is simply relying on himself to defend his family, which obviously wouldn’t be possible for long.
His wife and son get killed, but his own life is saved by Rakuakan and so that’s when he pledges his life to Rakuakan.
Qi as a state is far stronger than Han. The fact that the two states no longer exist tell you they are much weaker than Qi, yet the fact that Yoko was threatened would tell you it’s highly unlikely he was from Qi.
Hence the logical conclusion would be that he was from a lesser state that was always in battles with other lesser states, which is why he was left with nowhere to go and a target on his back from other remnants.
Hara has history of creating guys from smaller states of the past. He does it all the time - Akou, Kyouen, Gokei, Manu, juukuou, Gen’u, sentouun. I’m sure there’s more.
Hence the logical conclusion would be that he was from a lesser state that was always in battles with other lesser states, which is why he was left with nowhere to go and a target on his back from other remnants.
Hara has history of creating guys from smaller states of the past. He does it all the time - Akou, Kyouen, Gokei, Manu, juukuou, Gen’u, sentouun. I’m sure there’s more.
Citation?? Qi and Han are the two weakest states by a good margin, they are the smallest and have the least amount of manpower.
You are just making shit up lol. There is zero basis to what you are saying at all. If Yoko abandoned Qi and was no longer protected by them, then naturally the people who hate him for his bloodline would put bounties on his head.
You are just making shit up lol. There is zero basis to what you are saying at all. If Yoko abandoned Qi and was no longer protected by them, then naturally the people who hate him for his bloodline would put bounties on his head.
Riboku told you years ago that China is split into 3 tiers. Qi was with Yan, Wei, Zhao. Han was the weakest on its own whilst Chu and Qin were top level. It is factually incorrect to group Han with Qi. It’s also completely baseless to put Qi behind Wei and Yan.
Furthermore we know for a fact that as time progressed, the smaller fish were eaten by the bigger fish. Implying Qi may be weaker than smaller states that were gobbled up by the others, does not follow what we know. Juuko 4 were all monsters, and yet we know the size of their armies were much smaller than the existing 7.
I’m not making anything up, because I’m not stating anything as fact. I’m following the logical storytelling that Hara has given us for almost 900 chapters and showing what would be more likely, based on that blueprint.
You’re suggesting these former states were mid-China level, which is a big reach, and then implying someone feels they would have more security in joining a much weaker state, which is a bit illogical.
If Yoko was a highborn member of Qi, he’d actually be better off hiding in Qi, if threats are coming from smaller groups from former, smaller states that are butthurt over his family name. Qi would stamp that shit out. They were one of the 7 strongest states China have had for many, many decades and an entire tier above Han, under the protection and leadership of one of the most powerful and influential Kings of the era.
Furthermore we know for a fact that as time progressed, the smaller fish were eaten by the bigger fish. Implying Qi may be weaker than smaller states that were gobbled up by the others, does not follow what we know. Juuko 4 were all monsters, and yet we know the size of their armies were much smaller than the existing 7.
I’m not making anything up, because I’m not stating anything as fact. I’m following the logical storytelling that Hara has given us for almost 900 chapters and showing what would be more likely, based on that blueprint.
You’re suggesting these former states were mid-China level, which is a big reach, and then implying someone feels they would have more security in joining a much weaker state, which is a bit illogical.
If Yoko was a highborn member of Qi, he’d actually be better off hiding in Qi, if threats are coming from smaller groups from former, smaller states that are butthurt over his family name. Qi would stamp that shit out. They were one of the 7 strongest states China have had for many, many decades and an entire tier above Han, under the protection and leadership of one of the most powerful and influential Kings of the era.
Fair point actually, the map Riboku shows in 176 actually makes Qi look larger than Wei. Why am I just now realizing how big Qi is. Lol
That’s not what I said, I’m saying Man’U with an army of 50k could absolutely pose a serious threat, even the state of Chu sent powerful commanders after Man’U and he bodied them left and right. Guys like Sento’Un and Gen’U are on a similar level to Man’U, they aren’t commanders that Qi or Wei can easily crush if even Chu had trouble with them.
That’s not what I said, I’m saying Man’U with an army of 50k could absolutely pose a serious threat, even the state of Chu sent powerful commanders after Man’U and he bodied them left and right. Guys like Sento’Un and Gen’U are on a similar level to Man’U, they aren’t commanders that Qi or Wei can easily crush if even Chu had trouble with them.
Man’u and co were hard to crush but they offered very little threat to the actual existence of the bigger states. They were in a defensive position against the major states, who naturally could not go all out because it’s all a balancing act. Over-commit to one war and your rivals take advantage. But for instance, if somebody wanted a quiet life in Chu or Wei, Man’u or Sentou’un in their states had little chance to invade Chu or Wei and uproot their target who was trying to hide in peace.
Yoko was not looking for trouble and would therefore be safer in the powerful state of Qi, if that’s where he was from. Hence, it’s more probable that his own home was destroyed and Rakuakan took him in.
The latest chapter also shows how big Qi is.
Yoko was not looking for trouble and would therefore be safer in the powerful state of Qi, if that’s where he was from. Hence, it’s more probable that his own home was destroyed and Rakuakan took him in.
The latest chapter also shows how big Qi is.