Questions & Mysteries Has Killer taken the Sanji position? new monster trio

Has killer taken the sanji position? new monster trio

  • Yes

    Votes: 32 39.0%
  • No

    Votes: 50 61.0%

  • Total voters
    82
#41
I mean, think about it. He's not fighting Top Tiers with that low AP. Nothing wrong with that, Sanji is a cook first
Why not ? It's a matter of match-ups, only Kaido and Big Mom are broken durability freaks among top tiers. Whitebeard was injured by the whole Marineford when those attacks were landing :milaugh:

Sanji with the RS is way more durable than Zoro, but that doesn't mean that Sanji > Zoro overall for example :kayneshrug:
 
#42
IMO there is no Monster Trio anymore
Jinbe joined the Crew, Franky is distancing himself from rest of Crew & Yamato might join
I think now it's more like Luffy/Zoro Duo & then rest of Crew
This has been said since Robin joined and Sanji has stayed as third strongest. Oda isn't changing that. Sanji is or will soon be stronger than Jinbe, and if Yamato joins (hopefully not) he will be stronger too.
 
#43
Why not ? It's a matter of match-ups, only Kaido and Big Mom are broken durability freaks among top tiers. Whitebeard was injured by the whole Marineford when those attacks were landing :milaugh:

Sanji with the RS is way more durable than Zoro, but that doesn't mean that Sanji > Zoro overall for example :kayneshrug:
Durability is fine, no ones saying otherwise. But durability doesn't get you far.

You need to punch through rather than defend in the New World. And thats why sanji got clowned. A whole lot of running and "blockin" but no punching thru (gifters don't count)
 
#44
Durability is fine, no ones saying otherwise. But durability doesn't get you far.

You need to punch through rather than defend in the New World. And thats why sanji got clowned. A whole lot of running and "blockin" but no punching thru (gifters don't count)
He was one shoting Headliners left and right with base kicks, without the Raid Suit.

Sanji will have good attack power to put down Queen, who's likely the biggest tank among the Beast Pirates and has top notch durability/endurance due to the combo of his Huge Ancient Zoan DF as well as modified body.

He's coming out of this arc @ Yonko FM level, and will step into top tier territory in the vs Blackbeard Pirates arc.
 
#45
He was one shoting Headliners left and right with base kicks, without the Raid Suit.

Sanji will have good attack power to put down Queen, who's likely the biggest tank among the Beast Pirates and has top notch durability/endurance due to the combo of his Huge Ancient Zoan DF as well as modified body.

He's coming out of this arc @ Yonko FM level, and will step into top tier territory in the vs Blackbeard Pirates arc.
Again Gifters don’t really count.
He will fight Queen but I doubt it’s alone. Oda emphasized Ancient Zoans and their durability. If couldn’t put P1 down for good, he’ll need all the help for Queena
 
#46
Again Gifters don’t really count.
He will fight Queen but I doubt it’s alone. Oda emphasized Ancient Zoans and their durability. If couldn’t put P1 down for good, he’ll need all the help for Queena
Luffy couldn't put Page 1 down for good with a G3 attack, but had Kaido on his knees with another.

Sanji will solo Queen, and will show in the fight against Queen that he has what it takes.
 
#48
Luffy needed Ryuo. You proved my point. You think Sanji has G3+ level attacks?
Absolutely. He needed only one unnamed base kick while fucking around with the RS for the first time to make Page One immediately swap out of the Zoan form into Hybrid.

Sanji can escalate many, many levels from that. Serious Sanji with some levels of mastery right now can probably put down Page One with a couple of RS boosted, CoA Hardened DJ kicks.
 
#49
Absolutely. He needed only one unnamed base kick while fucking around with the RS for the first time to make Page One immediately swap out of the Zoan form into Hybrid.

Sanji can escalate many, many levels from that. Serious Sanji with some levels of mastery right now can probably put down Page One with a couple of RS boosted, CoA Hardened DJ kicks.
Sanji used his strongest moved Hell’s Memories on Wadatsumi in FI. I’m not saying he’s weak, but he’s not gonna solo Queen
 
#50
Sanji used his strongest moved Hell’s Memories on Wadatsumi in FI. I’m not saying he’s weak, but he’s not gonna solo Queen
Hell Memories could be a mode, and then he'd have used a basic kick in that mode, like he used a basic kick in DJ for the first time against Jabra :super:

Also like i said, there's hardening. @Cinera brought up how much hardening usage boosts attacks and how Zoro has yet to show some of his moves with hardening post time skip.

Sanji begining to add Hardening to his attacks will add a significant boost to their strength as well.

Also there's the arc to arc strength growth. In Zou Sanji used a DJ named attack to take out a Headliner, but in this arc he was one shoting them without DJ, with unnamed attacks.

HM could be way stronger now, and could be a whole mode, and could be boosted with Hardening. All that without even accounting for the more than significant boost the RS provides on top of that.
 
#51
Hell Memories could be a mode, and then he'd have used a basic kick in that mode, like he used a basic kick in DJ for the first time against Jabra :super:

Also like i said, there's hardening. @Cinera brought up how much hardening usage boosts attacks and how Zoro has yet to show some of his moves with hardening post time skip.

Sanji begining to add Hardening to his attacks will add a significant boost to their strength as well.

Also there's the arc to arc strength growth. In Zou Sanji used a DJ named attack to take out a Headliner, but in this arc he was one shoting them without DJ, with unnamed attacks.

HM could be way stronger now, and could be a whole mode, and could be boosted with Hardening. All that without even accounting for the more than significant boost the RS provides on top of that.
That’s all definitely possible, but the best I see Sanji do is give a burning effect. I never liked a Sanji/Queen scenario bc it makes no sense.

Sanji vs Perospero is a much better thematic battle. Perospero is weak to fire, has clout in the BM pirates, they have unfinished business, and Carrot/Wanda are doomed to lose to him. Defeating Perospero guarantees at least a 800M bounty

Perospero was also a rival to Marco, which puts himself round YC1 caliber by default
 
#52
That’s all definitely possible, but the best I see Sanji do is give a burning effect. I never liked a Sanji/Queen scenario bc it makes no sense.

Sanji vs Perospero is a much better thematic battle. Perospero is weak to fire, has clout in the BM pirates, they have unfinished business, and Carrot/Wanda are doomed to lose to him. Defeating Perospero guarantees at least a 800M bounty

Perospero was also a rival to Marco, which puts himself round YC1 caliber by default
It makes a lot of sense though, it's the perfect match-up.

Back in EL Sanji also fought the CP9 agent with best Tekkai mastery, and Sanjis trump card at the time burnt his insides through his Tekkai armor.

Sanji's ultimate move will do the same with Queen, and cook his fatass by the end of Wano :myman:
 
#55
Absolutely. He needed only one unnamed base kick while fucking around with the RS for the first time to make Page One immediately swap out of the Zoan form into Hybrid.

Sanji can escalate many, many levels from that. Serious Sanji with some levels of mastery right now can probably put down Page One with a couple of RS boosted, CoA Hardened DJ kicks.
Well since Luffy before Gear 4 was stronger than Sanji without the Raid Suit, Sanji without the Raid Suit was Probably around Gear 2 Luffy, If we include the Raid Suit Sanjis probably G2/G3 now In terms of Attack power.
 
#59
In that last chapter we can see than killer is challenging to zoro and they cut kaido very similar when zoro and sanji was cutting/hitting to px. So it's possible than killer's three stronger than luffy and zoro (new monster trio)
While I see where you were coming from, I think the new Monster Trio is really Jinbei, Yamato, and Sanji.

Luffy and Zoro are on a class of their own in the crew.
 
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