Break Week Has Oda treated WSS legit?

[Jo_Ndule]

Now that we know that Mihawk so far:

• has never been to Wano
• has never fought Yonko Version of Shanks
• Has not fought any top tier swordman
• Has never beaten high tier/Vet tier swordman
• Was easily replaced by WG new Toys
• Isn't considered a Great Pirate
• Wasn't viewed as powerful as Yonko by Kaido, Crocodile and Marco

And we also see that no Strong samurai in NW seek or sought WSS title except Mihawk and Zoro,

Why and how exactly is this dude WSS? Was it cause he cut something bigger than mountain or harder than steel?
We know to be WSS candidate you don't need crazy 1v 1 Ws just Cutting feats can make you a candidate for WSS title.

So what do you guys think, has Oda done justice to WSS title and Mihawk ?

For me Oda has handled WSS stuff poorly,

@TheAncientCenturion @Kejon @Buusatan94 @Sentinel @Zenos7

 

[Lion of Olympus]

Nope.

-Had one of WBs commanders block his attack instead of having WB block it instead

-Had another one of WB Commanders fight evenly with him

-Couldn’t even hit Pre TS Luffy

All he has is portrayal, his feats suck lol

 

[Zenos7]

has never been to Wano

evidence?

Has not fought any top tier swordman

evidence?

Has never beaten high tier/Vet tier swordman

evidence?

And we also see that no Strong samurai in NW seek or sought WSS title except Mihawk and Zoro,

evidence?

 

[Trafalgar_D_Law]

In reality no, the WSS title nearly irrelevant inverse. We have basically only 1 character in the whole show. that’s shown any actual real interest in the title.

Mihawk himself been handle poorly as well for a top tier. especially if u subscribe to the nonsensical top 3 shit.

guy seemly lives off of being connected to shanks/Zoro. Which coincidently are the only 2 sword users that have actually shown caring about Mihawk.

 

[SinOfGreed]

Dragon has zero feats but people still put him top 5

 

[Jo_Ndule]

evidence?

evidence?

evidence?

evidence?

Nobody mentions Mihawk, no info and no panel of Mihawk being in wano
Especially when Kaido has been there for 27/28 years.
If Mihawk went there before Kaido invasion, people would still remember and mention him but we all know Mihawk started piracy less than 28 years ago, he was at Grabdline watching Roger exécution live as Moriah, Doffy and all were rookies/Supernovas back then.

Évidence is that he never even met Vista prior MF, cracker and Smoothie do not also mention Mihawk
Nobody at Tottoland mentions Mihawk going there to challenge big Mom or her kids.

There's still no record of Mihawk beating any Vet or high tier. He hasn't fought a top tier too.

Reread my post "so far" meaning up until now with the infos we have... Mihawk hasn't and isn't what people thought he would do and be.

 

[Zenos7]

Nobody mentions Mihawk, no info and no panel of Mihawk being in wano
Especially when Kaido has been there for 27/28 years.
If Mihawk went there before Kaido invasion, people would still remember and mention him but we all know Mihawk started piracy less than 28 years ago, he was at Grabdline watching Roger exécution live as Moriah, Doffy and all were rookies/Supernovas back then.

Évidence is that he never even met Vista prior MF, cracker and Smoothie do not also mention Mihawk
Nobody at Tottoland mentions Mihawk going there to challenge big Mom or her kids.

There's still no record of Mihawk beating any Vet or high tier. He hasn't fought a top tier too.

Reread my post "so far" meaning up until now with the infos we have... Mihawk hasn't and isn't what people thought he would do and be.

so you dont have evidence for your assertions? figures.

him never meeting vista =/= him never meeting other YC's.

no mention of mihawk in relation to wano =/= mihawk has never been to wano.

There is literally no record of mihawk fighting anyone bar shanks, doesnt mean he didnt fight anyone.

You literally think lack of evidence = evidence. But thats simply not the case. "so far we know" - no, we dont actually know until we get actual evidence.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

Even if he doesn’t have the supposed feats you’ve listed (and it’s not like that’s steadfastly true since we still haven’t seen him for more than a few panels every six arcs or so), the author himself has directly called him the World’s Strongest Swordsman for many years and set him up as the final boss for the quasi-main protagonist since the very beginning, so...

/thread?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Now that we know that Mihawk so far:

• has never been to Wano
• has never fought Yonko Version of Shanks
• Has not fought any top tier swordman
• Has never beaten high tier/Vet tier swordman
• Was easily replaced by WG new Toys
• Isn't considered a Great Pirate
• Wasn't viewed as powerful as Yonko by Kaido, Crocodile and Marco

most of these are assumptions.

Some of them are flat out wrong. Like Oda basically called him a legend and I don't think Kaido ever commented on Mihawk's powerlevel.

And I think the fact that the SSG can replace Mihawk means more to hype the SSG than dehype mihawk.

 

[Zenos7]

Like Oda basically called him a legend

faulty translation if you are referring to the SBS.

 

[Saikō No Kenshi]

This question is to be asked EOS.

Has Oda shown Shanks fighting ?
Has Oda shown Dragon fighting ?

Oda has shown barley something from the Legends of One Piece like Shanks, Mihawk or Dragon, since almost 1000 chapters you should know that Oda has a lot information saved for later, so arguing that if Oda treated WSS legit makes no sense, since the Series didn't ended now and from Odas writing style most of us know that he is pretty mysterious regarding Top Tiers.

Kong, Shanks, Mihawk, Dragon are some examples pretty much extrem Hype (OK maybe not Kong) but did we saw them actually fight ? No!

You said :

• has never been to Wano = no evidence, just an assumption
• has never fought Yonko Version of Shanks= no evidence, just an assumption
• Has not fought any top tier swordman = no evidence just an assumption
• Has never beaten high tier/Vet tier swordman = no evidence just an assumption
• Was easily replaced by WG new Toys = calling them toys shows me that you are not serious at all.
• Isn't considered a Great Pirate= Mihawk was called Legend among man by Oda himself so thats what I say.
• Wasn't viewed as powerful as Yonko by Kaido, Crocodile and Marco = Just your right of free speech.

To answer your question: Yes Oda did everything right considering Mihawk and there is most likely more to come.

Alone that Mihawk is the only known character besides Sword God Ryuma who was capable of making his Sword an BlackSword is in my opinion enough that Oda treated WSS Mihawk absolutely legit, or do you know an other Swordsman besides those two capable of achieving a BlackSword ?

 

[SinOfGreed]

most of these are assumptions.

Some of them are flat out wrong. Like Oda basically called him a legend and I don't think Kaido ever commented on Mihawk's powerlevel.

And I think the fact that the SSG can replace Mihawk means more to hype the SSG than dehype mihawk.

Also it must be remembered that the warlords barring kuma would never fight all out for the navy

So while they had the WSS in name as an ally, they never really had his full strength and therefore the SSG would be able to fulfill that void but never match his true strength

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faulty translation if you are referring to the SBS.

What is the correct translation?

 

[Jo_Ndule]

most of these are assumptions.

Some of them are flat out wrong. Like Oda basically called him a legend and I don't think Kaido ever commented on Mihawk's powerlevel.

And I think the fact that the SSG can replace Mihawk means more to hype the SSG than dehype mihawk.

Oda never called Mihawk à legend.
Kaido doesn't view Warlords as strong dudes.
Secondly they are not assumptions

My thread is about current Infos we have in the Manga.
So nope, they are not assumptions but manga fact until proven false when we get new infos

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This question is to be asked EOS.

Has Oda shown Shanks fighting ?
Has Oda shown Dragon fighting ?

Oda has shown barley something from the Legends of One Piece like Shanks, Mihawk or Dragon, since almost 1000 chapters you should know that Oda has a lot information saved for later, so arguing that if Oda treated WSS legit makes no sense, since the Series didn't ended now and from Odas writing style most of us know that he is pretty mysterious regarding Top Tiers.

Kong, Shanks, Mihawk, Dragon are some examples pretty much extrem Hype (OK maybe not Kong) but did we saw them actually fight ? No!

You said :

• has never been to Wano = no evidence, just an assumption
• has never fought Yonko Version of Shanks= no evidence, just an assumption
• Has not fought any top tier swordman = no evidence just an assumption
• Has never beaten high tier/Vet tier swordman = no evidence just an assumption
• Was easily replaced by WG new Toys = calling them toys shows me that you are not serious at all.
• Isn't considered a Great Pirate= Mihawk was called Legend among man by Oda himself so thats what I say.
• Wasn't viewed as powerful as Yonko by Kaido, Crocodile and Marco = Just your right of free speech.

To answer your question: Yes Oda die everything right considering Mihawk and there is most likely more to come.

Alone that Mihawk is the only known character besides Sword God Ryuma who was capable of making his Sword an BlackSword is in my opinion enough that Oda treated WSS Mihawk absolutely legit, or do you know an other Swordsman besides those two capable of achieving a BlackSword ?

Mihawk never fought Yonko Shanks that's a fact
He doesn't wanna fight on arm shanks so you gotta be crazy if you think Mihawk fought shanks in these last 6 years.
Mihawk never went to Wano, fact until anyone in Wano mentions Mihawk or we get info Mihawk was in wano

Comeback with fact not argument "assumptions" when in reality, my posts are based on Canon infos not headcanons.

Once again, Oda never called Mihawk à legend, how many times will people keep using Viz translation where they added Legend word into Oda mouth.
Being legend =/= Great pirate.

Buggy, Chinjao, John, Oden, Rayleigh are all legends yet never became Great Pirates as Yonko and Roger!

Comeback with an argument to counter not Mistranslated SBs

 

[yj]

How you this insecure about a character we know little to nothing about. you good?

 

[Kejon]

Oda has treated Mihawk and his title very badly. But it does make sense why he does it. Zoro eos will not be on the same level as Luffy, and the people that he wants to surpass. Mihawk isn't as respected as the Yonko or even the Admirals and it really shows. I mean this guy wanted to test his strength against WB in marineford and was stopped by Vista....It can't be more obvious than that.

Why and how exactly is this dude WSS? Was it cause he cut something bigger than mountain or harder than steel?
We know to be WSS candidate you don't need crazy 1v 1 Ws just Cutting feats can make you a candidate for WSS title.

Mihawk might be able to cut almost everything and that's why he is considered to be the WSS. But of course, this doesn't mean that he is stronger than any character that wields a sword.

 

[Zenos7]

What is the correct translation?

oda was just listing their names (wb,shanks,mihawk). you can find some posts about this translation on this forum where denden clears it up.

 

[Saikō No Kenshi]

Oda never called Mihawk à legend.
Kaido doesn't view Warlords as strong dudes.
Secondly they are not assumptions

My thread is about current Infos we have in the Manga.
So nope, they are not assumptions but manga fact until proven false when we get new infos

You are absolutely wron

Oda never called Mihawk à legend.
Kaido doesn't view Warlords as strong dudes.
Secondly they are not assumptions

My thread is about current Infos we have in the Manga.
So nope, they are not assumptions but manga fact until proven false when we get new infos

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Mihawk never fought Yonko Shanks that's a fact
He doesn't wanna fight on arm shanks so you gotta be crazy if you think Mihawk fought shanks in these last 6 years.
Mihawk never went to Wano, fact until anyone in Wano mentions Mihawk or we get info Mihawk was in wano

Comeback with fact not argument "assumptions" when in reality, my posts are based on Canon infos not headcanons.

Once again, Oda never called Mihawk à legend, how many times will people keep using Viz translation where they added Legend word into Oda mouth.
Being legend =/= Great pirate.

Buggy, Chinjao, John, Oden, Rayleigh are all legends yet never became Great Pirates as Yonko and Roger!

Comeback with an argument to counter not Mistranslated SBs

DID I ever mentioned VIz translation? NO I didn't. You have problems with your interpretation and running into conclusion. You talking about facts. So stay on the facts. I never mentions VIZ translation!!!


I'm talking about an SBS here you go:

D: Hey, Oda! In all of these fight scenes, why doesn't anybody go for the men's groins? Doesn't that seem like the quickest path to victory? P.N. Eldest of the Asada Siblings.
O: True, that is a vital area. Just imagine legends among men--Whitebeard, Shanks, Mihawk--staring each other down, bearing their weighty ideals...and trying to whack each other in the balls!

 

[Zenos7]

Comeback with fact not argument "assumptions" when in reality, my posts are based on Canon infos not headcanons.

If i go outside now and i see one brown dog, does that mean all dogs are brown?

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You are absolutely wron

DID I ever mentioned VIz translation? NO I didn't. You have problems with your interpretation and running into conclusion. You talking about facts. So stay on the facts. I never mentions VIZ translation!!!


I'm talking about an SBS here you go:

D: Hey, Oda! In all of these fight scenes, why doesn't anybody go for the men's groins? Doesn't that seem like the quickest path to victory? P.N. Eldest of the Asada Siblings.
O: True, that is a vital area. Just imagine legends among men--Whitebeard, Shanks, Mihawk--staring each other down, bearing their weighty ideals...and trying to whack each other in the balls!

sorry but that is the VIZ translation of that SBS; and there is no "legend" in the raw japanese.

 

[Daikenki]

Nope. Mihawk has some of the best hype and feats in the series.
The fact that Whitebeard praised Mihawk and Shanks fights which could be heard across the grand line back when both of them were just rookies is enough hype. Luffy promised to Shanks that he will surpass his crew and find one piece...Zoro promised to surpass Mihawk to become WSS...the fact that the Mihawk was the rival of the pirate Luffy the MC of the story idolizes just shows how important the character Mihawk is. Not only Mihawk we have yet to see from Shanks, Dragon, Greenbull, etc so have they also been not treated well by Oda?

You only made this thread to downplay Mihawk just for the fact that Zoro will need to defeat him to become WSS and we all know how much you hate Zoro. And anything related to Zoro must be downplayed.​

 

[Saikō No Kenshi]

Whatever, you asked I answered. That's it, no more hanging around in this Treat for me.

Believe whatever you want.

If i go outside now and i see one brown dog, does that mean all dogs are brown?

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sorry but that is the VIZ translation of that SBS; and there is no "legend" in the raw japanese.

Ok, than it is like that. But the argument that only Ryuma and Mihawk where capable of making there Blades black are solid.