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hime

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Rej said:
@Kagu Nyan @Peroroncino @CakeWalker @hime @MUUGEN @Ratchet @Flower @Ekkologix @Midnight Delight @MangoSenpai @Naomi @Juliet @Mr. Reloaded @Pot Goblin @Lord Melkor @Dr. Watson @Orwellian @MonochromeYoru @Indigo @Charlie @oddoddfruit @Rhea @Michelle @Natalija @TheAncientCenturion @Random Asshole @Rej @Playa4321 @Cao Cao @Kami Burn @Destroya @Dr_Professor83 @ConquistadoR @LANJI CUCKSMOKE @Kiku @MitchMatch @Reborn @Psylocke @Ultra @Grammaton @Mashiro Blue @Polar Bear @The Orca @Zolo @Worst @Ariess @SoulKiller @Rottkins @RippedCal @Nana @Alwaysmind @Underworld Broker @Lindltaylor @BakiDou @Xlaw @Nessos @SakazOuki @Apollo @Meeyori @Sallucion @Nibel

plugging @Joygirl taglist :3
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sry, im gonna be taking a break from playing mafia for a little bit
ty for the tag tho and gl with ur game!
 
osieorb18

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Alwaysmind said:
Ssuurreee! What’s an oogi though?
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For a few examples... talking about someone's activity in another ongoing game, sharing information about a tragic personal situation in order to gain sympathy, and discussing someone getting a warning for poor behaviour, are all examples of Out-of-Game Information.

Here is one of the better explanations I've seen:

Newcomb said:
The vast majority of the time, people bringing OGI into games do so without bad intent. That's why we tend to moderate it lightly - because most of the time, the person doing it is just trying to be helpful, supply information, make a read on something they believe in. However, damage to game integrity is damage to game integrity, no matter how well-intentioned, and the best solution is everyone understanding the rules in the first place.

Mafia, as a game, can only work when the players inside the game abide by a certain kind of fiction. It's not roleplaying, not exactly, but the idea that a mafia game exists inside its own little bubble is what prevents games from degenerating into rampant angleshooting, prevents games from spilling over into other games, and lets us call each other liars without making it a personal attack.

Game integrity being paramount to healthy, fair games, MU places the highest priority on preserving it.

Here's the Spirit of the Game version of OGI, and the reasons we're against OGI influencing a game:

The spirit of the rule regarding OGI is essentially this: no one should ever post anything that isn't about the game that a second player could reasonably make an alignment read based on.

Frequently, it's the second-order effects that OGI has on the game that are so disruptive. Even if you personally see nothing wrong / nothing alignment indicative about asking the game host a question in the thread, or commenting on a player's online activity elsewhere, or making a read based on what someone who's in another game is doing in your game, it's the catastrophic ripple effect that discussing these things in the game thread has on game integrity that's the problem. Players can and will read into your OGI comments, and players will read into those comments, and so on, and suddenly the game is no longer self-contained, no longer actually about the game.

To be clear: Sometimes OGI will influence a read of yours. It happens to everyone. "Man, Person X is posting up a storm in this other game, but is a complete lurker here. Wonder if they randed wolf." That kind of thinking is bound to happen sometimes; it's unavoidable to a certain extent. What is completely unacceptable is publicly bringing up that read in the game thread.

Here's the short version, the quick and dirty "how should I act in a game" version: For the purposes of a game of mafia, everything outside the bubble should be treated (publicly) as if it doesn't exist.
  • What a player is or isn't doing online (outside of the game), anywhere, doesn't exist.
  • The game host doesn't exist. (All communication with / about mods should be done privately)
  • Reports don't exist (if you need to report something, just do it, don't mention it publicly and do not threaten to report someone.) Similarly, infractions and warnings don't exist. If you get one, handle it privately, don't mention it in the game thread.
The exceptions to "the bubble" are a player's previous mafia history / mannerisms / preferences (everything generally covered under the term "meta") excluding ongoing games, and a player alluding to their own real-life status in the context of thread activity levels.

For example, saying you're going to bed, or going to miss the first 24 hours of a day for RL reasons, or that your cat is on fire, are perfectly acceptable statements. (Though MU strongly encourages you to expeditiously assist your cat instead of posting about it in a mafia game.)

When you make such a statement, however, it is required to be alignment agnostic. No one should be able to plausibly read anything about your alignment into anything you say about your RL status.

Respect the bubble. Game integrity is an ideal that only works if everyone in the game actively works to maintain it.
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As a specific extension to that (since I've seen it a few times now), if you have a family or health emergency, that is way more important than the game, and if able should be brought up with the host. It should absolutely not be brought up in the game thread. If necessary and preferred, we can replace your slot.

If you need to sub out, contact the host. Posting in the thread about it is more likely to lead to speculation. (And is usually more likely to happen out of emotional distress, making it a problem regardless.) If you are upset about the game, take a step back, talk to the host if needed, and in general, take a breather. This is supposed to be fun for you as players.
 
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Alwaysmind

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osieorb18 said:
For a few examples... talking about someone's activity in another ongoing game, sharing information about a tragic personal situation in order to gain sympathy, and discussing someone getting a warning for poor behaviour, are all examples of Out-of-Game Information.

Here is one of the better explanations I've seen:



As a specific extension to that (since I've seen it a few times now), if you have a family or health emergency, that is way more important than the game, and if able should be brought up with the host. It should absolutely not be brought up in the game thread. If necessary and preferred, we can replace your slot.

If you need to sub out, contact the host. Posting in the thread about it is more likely to lead to speculation. (And is usually more likely to happen out of emotional distress, making it a problem regardless.) If you are upset about the game, take a step back, talk to the host if needed, and in general, take a breather. This is supposed to be fun for you as players.
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Someone already said what the acronym stands for. :)
:rainbowsheep
 
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