Speculations Helmeppo and Coby are the "grandson" of Garp that replace Ace and Luffy.

#22
what are smoker best feat? getting no diff by doffy?

haki surpasses all koby has implied conquer, insane great observation haki, master rokushiki vergo doesn't have that and still beat smoker with ease

Wasn't yonko luffy, and sanji not sensing torpedo?
Whats your obsession with Smoker and Coby ?

You keep comparing them like Smoker is some big shot and its a big deal if Coby is stronger than him. Even if he is 10x stronger than Smoker he doesnt have the time required to be top tier without a timeskip.
 
#23
what are smoker best feat? getting no diff by doffy?

haki surpasses all koby has implied conquer, insane great observation haki, master rokushiki vergo doesn't have that and still beat smoker with ease

Wasn't yonko luffy, and sanji not sensing torpedo?
Smoker beat Luffy twice.

Better feats than anything Lolby has done.

Smoker went toe to toe with Vergo who was stronger than Sanji at the time and Lolby isn't even stronger than Punk Hazard Franky let alone Sanji.

When has it been implied Lolby has conquerors? That's just bullshit. Vergo had insane CoA haki that's what he was hyped for. Also Vergo knew Rokushiki techniques all Vice Admirals do.

Lolby has literally only beat fodders on panel and you're hyping him to be commander level how shit at powerscaling can you be?

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Smoker has battled Vergo, Law, Doflamingo and lolby has battled fodder 1 and 2 and you think you can compare the two?

Lolby went to capture Hancock got embarrassed and would have lost then Blackbeard captured him embarrassing.
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Whats your obsession with Smoker and Coby ?

You keep comparing them like Smoker is some big shot and its a big deal if Coby is stronger than him. Even if he is 10x stronger than Smoker he doesnt have the time required to be top tier without a timeskip.
He's got a weird fetishism for teenage pink haired males.

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#24
Whats your obsession with Smoker and Coby ?
If you haven't notice most of the people coming at koby are smoker fans, have no problem with smoker but some of his fans don't like koby
he doesnt have the time required to be top tier without a timeskip.
where you getting this from? all he needs is a few month and garp death, we already about to see him face some bb commander
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Smoker beat Luffy twice.
wow pre-ts, I see you don't want to go to post-ts here I got you

no diff by doffy, koby would never

jitte broken again, beat ease by vergo, oh and vergo isn't stronger then boa

Vergo had insane CoA haki that's what he was hyped for. Also Vergo knew Rokushiki techniques all Vice Admirals do.
insane coa back in like ph, now it's not even advance, nor insane post-dress

koby has insane great observation haki by oda, and master rokushiki you can have rokushiki but not mastered it , koby roku>vergo who beat smoker with easily
 
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#26
All jokes aside, SWORD is gonna be allies with the Strawhats. Koby is more of a friend to Luffy than he is a rival
No never. They just represent the people who will reform the marines after luffy takes out the cds and imu. Over a decade ago I thought Drake was going to be part of that. My theory was that Luffy was going to beat big mom and drake would defeat Kaidou but that didn't really play out that way. I guess oda read my notes and decide to change one piece.

I also thought eos would have Aokiji as fleet admiral and kobe as the main admiral. It can still happen but seeing as Aokiji is a double agent I don't think he will rematch Akainu like I thought. Oda also isn't portraying Akainu as a bad leader so there's a small chance he will remain the fleet admiral but seeing what he did to O'Hara citizens I don't know if I cam live with that.
 
#27
garp and roger were friends, roger seen garp as a crewmate , makes sense
No never. They just represent the people who will reform the marines after luffy takes out the cds and imu. Over a decade ago I thought Drake was going to be part of that. My theory was that Luffy was going to beat big mom and drake would defeat Kaidou but that didn't really play out that way. I guess oda read my notes and decide to change one piece.

I also thought eos would have Aokiji as fleet admiral and kobe as the main admiral. It can still happen but seeing as Aokiji is a double agent I don't think he will rematch Akainu like I thought. Oda also isn't portraying Akainu as a bad leader so there's a small chance he will remain the fleet admiral but seeing what he did to O'Hara citizens I don't know if I cam live with that.
Luffy and Koby may technically be rivals in the context of the story, but my point is I don't think we're ever getting a scene where Luffy and Koby beat the shit out of each other. Same goes for other sympathetic Marine characters like Smoker or Fujitora
 
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