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How many seconds can Sanji hold Enma

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Cruxroux

#42
how much does it need here





I have said many times and will say it again
you do not need to use coc to hold or use enma . bit funny you are telling me to read while you are casually showing you havent done that.
Bruh who tf gave access to internet.
Your panels are waste.
Zoro didn't master Enma until king fight and Zoro isn't suffering from Enma in egghead because he mastered it.
 
#43
That's because zoro is holding it back WITH HIS HAKI MASTERY something sanji doesn't have
thats 3 people now that have shifted the goal post after an obvious fact has been pointed out . laughable .
No need to type in caps . am right here.
Haki mastery is an amazing way of stating not getting drained to a husk when the sword sucks out ryou.
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Bruh who tf gave access to internet.
Your panels are waste.
Zoro didn't master Enma until king fight and Zoro isn't suffering from Enma in egghead because he mastered it.
^^^^
too daft
am sorry argue with someone else
shishio got the point right away.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#44
thats 3 people now that have shifted the goal post after an obvious fact has been pointed out . laughable .
No need to type in caps . am right here.
Haki mastery is an amazing way of stating not getting drained to a husk when the sword sucks out ryou.
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^^^^
too daft
am sorry argue with someone else
shishio got the point right away.
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This thread is about sanji and enma 🤡
Sanji doesn't have the haki mastery to stop enma taking his haki like zoro did in 955 nor the will power.
 
#47
No he doesn't lmfao.
Will power didn't make zoro get his haki back
Zoros haki mastery did
Again as PROVEN ABOVE current enma has the pull of PRIME odens haki
He tells the sword give it back to me
and the sword does just that .

I think you are being rather delusional here. if it was haki mastery kinemon denjiro , hyo have similar mastery of flow/ryou.


the key factor here is the individual's will power. hence oden as child held the blade.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#48
He tells the sword give it back to me
and the sword does just that .

I think you are being rather delusional here. if it was haki mastery kinemon denjiro , hyo have similar mastery of flow/ryou.
They don't. They don't have the capacity to have prime oden amount of haki leave their body.
 
#50
They don't. They don't have the capacity to have prime oden amount of haki leave their body.
its implied they never had the capacity since enma's creation
this isnt some new standard
No one dared claim that blade till oden came along. it requires enormous willpower to hold and even more so to tame/master.
This prime oden amount haki to leave their body nonsense is headcanon garbage.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#51
its implied they never had the capacity since enma's creation
this isnt some new standard
No one dared claim that blade till oden came along.
No. It was made for oden.
And they didn't touch it since he died.
It is a new standard. Kid oden didn't have the haki mastery or will power to do what zoro did in 1033
 
#54
Kozaboro flashback , he made his magnus opus , gave it to oden.
Wano has this culture to give them sword at their birth same goes to their grave 🤦🤦🤦
his flashback never stated he gave his magnum opus to oden
that culture is for the people of ringo , Not oden,
one piece reader tho yeah?
 
#56
Oda said it in sbs vol 96
have to agree on that end
seems like he did reveal that in the sbs


O: Ah, yes. You might have to follow very closely to picture this, but...let me explain! It all starts with Shimotsuki Kozaburo (swordsmith and swordsman)

  1. He forges the "Enma" and bestows it to the heir of the Kozuki Family, Oden.
  2. 55 years ago, he sets out to sea!
  3. He and the samurai of Wano have a grand adventure!!
  4. They make landfall in a certain place in the East Blue.
  5. They save the locals from mountain bandits.
  6. They teach the villagers the way of the sword, who become enamored with swordplay.
  7. They decide to settle there, founding Shimotsuki Village.
  8. His son, Koushirou, is born.
  9. His granddaughter, Kuina, is born.
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This in a way makes it less impressive
I was under the impression as stated in the manga oden was the only one to use it


kinemon might be a bitch about it
but what says denjiro cant. absolutely nothing. the sword was bestowed to oden and his scabbards (servants) wouldnt touch it regardless. No one actually tried to tame the blade.....
 
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#57
got somewhere at least
knew you would catch on
the other bloke seems slow.


sanji at this point is as strong as some yonko righthands
but if you believe his will power is below the likes of denjiro , to me that puzzling but its fine since its a more subjective point.
Not every Yonko right hand is built the same tho..Sanji is technology guy
Denjiros Bread and butter is CoA..he damaged Kaido purely with his CoA

It is wild to assume Sanji surpasses that
And if Denjiro dies to Enma..so does Sanji no matter how "strong" his will power is

It ain't even that strong
 
#58
Zoro held the sword perfectly fine with zero mastery over it. It wasn't until he swung it that it pulled his Haki out of him.

Enma doesn't just randomly pull Haki out of people because they pick it up. We quite literally saw Zoro hold it for the first time, and nothing happened while he was just holding it. And then immediately after he took his haki back, we see him once again, just holding the Sword with zero problems. The fuck is yall smoking?
 
#59
Remind me when was the last time Sanji haki Actually bloomed and showed us Major change in attack power.
It's the same FMI sanji.
Bro dies the moment he touches the sword.
Sanji literally said in Wano his armament haki is stronger, enough to handle IJ after getting exo, cause he trained in the ~ 1 month gap in Wano....
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hes got pretty strong will power
realistically if he were a swordsman
he could do it .

Oden carried this sword around at 8
not so sure why people think its some top tier feat.
You do realize Emma's standard changed over time.....
 
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