Questions & Mysteries How much do you think Whitebeard held back his power?

How much do you think he used, in relation to his full power?


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#21
But Zoro who is this strong already doesn't even think he is ready to lace Mihawk's boots yet.
Zoro calls Kaido the "So called" strongest creature in the world, literally mocking his title.
Where as Mihawk in his mind is undisputed strongest among swordsman and probably strongest in teh world period.

If Wano ends with Zoro killing Kaido, I am 100% gonna be on Mihawk > Kaido opinion
if big mom= kaidou
than its obvious mihawk>kaidou
 
#24
AoE =/= AP
First, don't expect from Oda (or almost any other author) drawing the same effects over and over again, it's not possible, he won't waste panels for that.
Second, WB can focus his power in one point, that's all you need to know (Moby Dick didn't have a single scratch on it despite gura attacking above it, on Ronse's head). On the opposite, Teach had problems controlling the fruit and generated a tsunami towards Shabondy when he started using Gura.

The AP used against Akainu and etc > the feats where the AoE was more impressive.
 
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#26
Of all the panels of the war, it was only when ACE was rescued that we saw an AP equal to its initial blows at the beginning of the war.
There is no more WB blow after he crosses the wall, with the same AP as the previous ones.

Take the panels and compare, your punches that hit the giant generated a chain that needed to be stopped by the 3 admirals, he didn’t do that anymore, his blows didn’t have as much impact.
He stopped.

Initial attacks >>> Attacks on the platform ..


Attack on the giant = Attack on the wall >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. attack after reaching the platform.
Don't deny it.
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Is this attack greater than the attack below?
No, it isn't, it didn't generate a current that would hit the execution platform, it just sent random sailors through the air, while the VA was shaking, but no admiral needed to use a barrier, because the attack is weaker.






He did it at a much greater distance, his punch on the iron wall, also had a higher AP.

Whitebeard made a punch, just like the giant, plus this punch, did not cause the same damage as the previous one, this punch did not generate a huge wave that would hit the execution platform which means that his AP was reduced, he was reducing the AP.


Now notice the difference after ACE was rescued ...
Holy crap.
He was in control of GURA all the time, reducing his power, his injuries also influenced that.






"He is really trying to sweep / sink the whole island", which implies that he was not trying before, because ACE had not been rescued (perfectly matching SENGOKU's words).
AKAINU never fought 100% GURA.
 
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#27
When WB arrived at MF, he could generate tidal waves of this magnitude, in addition to squandering a smile on his face. He does not show any type of difficulty in performing / doing, this type of attack.

This blow provided us with one of the best scenes in the series.


We have WB VS AOKIJI immediately, who was not very successful in stopping WB, who casually interrupts the attack by aokiji, and even by aokiji himself (twice), causing him to fall and freeze the sea.

And throughout the chapters we have a WB unharmed, attacking opponents until we finally get to where we want to be.



We got where we wanted, WB was stabbed.

The attack is serious, it even brought him to his knees and made him spit blood all the time, he showed difficulty and sweat after that all the time, I will leave panels marked to show this more clearly.

We see him still standing, and spitting blood, and a lot of blood coming out of his chest.

On your knees:

I take this opportunity to exalt KAIDO, who ignored a stab by DENJIROU who had RYOU on his sword, although this is nothing for KAIDO, he is tanking much more than that.:cheers::cheers:He didn't fall on his knees, but this is basic for KAIDO.




And then, after receiving his first NERF, WB, carries out a massive attack, note that the wall had not yet been erected by the Navy, forcing the 3 admirals to deal with the attack.
WB, was far from the execution platform, so I could still carry out these attacks. (strong attacks, I'll explain later).
More than strength and power, even with the admirals (the 3) together deviating the trajectory the attack still fucked everything back there.

It is noteworthy that WB already showed physical exhaustion, tiredness and sweat all over his body.
His attack followed a gigantic trajectory as well.


The platform still had the slanted image, even though it needed all 3 admirals to block.






When the navy raised its wall, it further distanced the WBP and WB from the platform, making it difficult to rescue ACE, the highly invincible wall (wall), WB attempts a blow that seems to have tried very hard to execute it, and seems not to hold back.

The shock generated by the blow causes the sengoku to tremble in the back and the platform tilts with the shock (we can see the legs askew).
Thanks to the wall, the blow had its strength "absorbed".

If that blow had not been towards the wall, it would have been necessary for the 3 admirals again to stop it, but I will explain later why this blow was the last strongest blow that WB delivered, without suppressing its strength.



Why did I say last stronger attack?
Because after that, WB managed to get close to the execution platform.

Note that the distance between him and Ace is short.
And most importantly, note that he carries out an attack with his DF, GURA GURA.

Notice now that he makes the navy fly at random, and the VC admirals shudder, at the same time that he demonstrates / does, an expression of tiredness and difficulty.


WB started to control himself here.
Why ?
Remember the attack he made on the wall that made SENGOKU tremble with just the shock generated? so ... this attack that the WB used did not do this, and it did not have to be stopped by the 3 admirals which means that it is a weaker version, much weaker, the admirals did not have to repel. it didn't generate any waves, no sengoku was affected even though it was closer this time, so the admirals casually put their hands in their pockets, and the admiral VC still have difficulty resisting the attack, trembling at the slightest blow of the WB.





His strokes no longer generated the same power, he already showed tiredness, he no longer generated waves that were needed 3 admiral to stop him, that magnitude, he no longer made the execution platform tremble, even though the wall has absorbed practically all the AP of the coup, making sengoku put his hand on his face, shaking.

He was focusing on rescue and controlling himself by the time he managed to get close to the execution platform.
So it would be risky for him to be using that amount of power, nobody could handle it.

Which perfectly matches this:

Only after all this happens does the AUTHOR make Akainu face WB, controlling himself and being nerfed, to still be ignored.
Akainu never rivaled and equaled his power to the WB GURA.


WB is facing the execution platform, while fighting akainu,
, an attack that akainu cannot stop / block, from the WB, can kill ACE.

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Yeah definitely thats where my vote goes to

Those two attacks you see as serious arent really all-out because all-out was when he split the island and knocked out Akainu from the stage

After Ace was saved WB gave two shots and MF-HQ nearly fall so held back

But he was handicapped anyway his sickness distributed his haki flow so he was underperforming in MF
Couldnt really use COC;COA or COO
so he was holding back but also was decreasing when the time did go on

the MF-WB was definitely not yonko-level
 

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#33
he gets heart attack when he was using CoC its a war not a 1v1 ,in a 1v1 he wouldnt use CoC at all knowing how fodder it is unless oda will show future how crucial CoC is, but I see your point .
Well they were pretty constant as far as I can at least personally tell. He didn't appear to be specifically using CoC too. But yes overall he was pretty messed up indeed.
 
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#40
Yeah definitely thats where my vote goes to

Those two attacks you see as serious arent really all-out because all-out was when he split the island and knocked out Akainu from the stage

After Ace was saved WB gave two shots and MF-HQ nearly fall so held back

But he was handicapped anyway his sickness distributed his haki flow so he was underperforming in MF
Couldnt really use COC;COA or COO
so he was holding back but also was decreasing when the time did go on

the MF-WB was definitely not yonko-level


Yes, basically that's what I try to get through.

He used two major blows at the beginning, one when he was a long way from the platform, in which three admirals were needed to contain the AP, and the other created a huge shock wave, even though the blow was retained.

After that, we no longer see WB scams creating the same thing.
Only after the rescue of ACE.

WB can reduce and increase your AP whenever you want.
Attack with reduced Ap:


The same attack but with a higher AP.


 
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