Character Discussion How Oda Deconstructed Charlotte Linlin’s Character Throughout Elbaf Arc

#46
Kidd had no way to blow out of the castle without Hikkoku directly hitting him, it's evident from the panel (and the following one) that Kidd took it all head on.

People tried to argue the same nonsense with Fulgora btw.
So punk armor took Ikoku head-on and survived when steel buildings were donuted clean and Kidd / Killer happened to jump to dead sky center of the skull for Fulgora too:suresure:



Bc Kidd was so treated well throughout Wano that it’s unimaginable to think Lolda intentionally drew panels of Kidd not being hit and instead being blown away too right?
 
#47
So punk armor took Ikoku head-on and survived when steel buildings were donuted clean and Kidd / Killer happened to jump to dead sky center of the skull for Fulgora too:suresure:



Bc Kidd was so treated well throughout Wano that it’s unimaginable to think Lolda intentionally drew panels of Kidd not being hit and instead being blown away too right?
What's the physics of Kidd/Killer not being hit by Fulgora but still ending inside the castle through the hole?
Is it the first case ever of a shock wave that sucks things in instead of blasting them away?
Please explain it to me
:milaugh:

"Fulgora didn't hit"
"Mama Raid didn't hit"
"Ikkoku Sovereignity didn't hit"
"3000 Leagues of Misery didn't hit"

I swear, it's hard to even have a discussion when these are the premises... :phoenixmarco:
 
#48
What's the physics of Kidd/Killer not being hit by Fulgora but still ending inside the castle through the hole?
Is it the first case ever of a shock wave that sucks things in instead of blasting them away?
Please explain it to me
:milaugh:

"Fulgora didn't hit"
"Mama Raid didn't hit"
"Ikkoku Sovereignity didn't hit"
"3000 Leagues of Misery didn't hit"

I swear, it's hard to even have a discussion when these are the premises... :phoenixmarco:
I tried explaining this to him repeatedly, he either is incapable of understanding it or understands it and chooses to be in denial:josad:
 
#49
What's the physics of Kidd/Killer not being hit by Fulgora but still ending inside the castle through the hole?
Is it the first case ever of a shock wave that sucks things in instead of blasting them away?
Please explain it to me
:milaugh:

"Fulgora didn't hit"
"Mama Raid didn't hit"
"Ikkoku Sovereignity didn't hit"
"3000 Leagues of Misery didn't hit"

I swear, it's hard to even have a discussion when these are the premises... :phoenixmarco:
Fulgora has AOE. Cliffs were being torn off from its collision with the skull. They got blasted away. LIGHTNING ATTACKS in OP dont “blast away” their opponents



Ikkoku same thing. Kidd’s metal scrap was still intact when it shoulda been destroyed

Kidd on panel dodged Misery lmfao

Mama raid was the only attack that connected

Only facts are being presented here. VISUAL facts. Not headcanon
 
#52
Fulgora has AOE. Cliffs were being torn off from its collision with the skull. They got blasted away. LIGHTNING ATTACKS in OP dont “blast away” their opponents



Ikkoku same thing. Kidd’s metal scrap was still intact when it shoulda been destroyed
Still did not explain HOW WERE THEY SENT INSIDE.
Based on the panels you posted Kidd/Killer should have stayed on the cliff, only way they got sent inside the castle is cause they were caught inside Fulgora which is not just a lightning but an electrical cannon that electrocutes and drags what is caught in its way.
Some goes for Ikkoku, the hole made from the cannon is exactly the size of the attack: only way Kidd can have gone through it is WITH the attack.

Kidd on panel dodged Misery lmfao
He did, but it's implied that he was hit after Misery started moving. Look at the panel below:
I'm NOT 100% sure about this, I have to admit that it was left a bit vague, but I think he was hit.

What's really CLEAR AND NOT VAGUE AT ALL is Fulgora and Ikkoku even more...
 
#53
Still did not explain HOW WERE THEY SENT INSIDE.
Based on the panels you posted Kidd/Killer should have stayed on the cliff, only way they got sent inside the castle is cause they were caught inside Fulgora which is not just a lightning but an ELECTRICAL cannon that electrocutes and drags what is caught in its way.
They got caught by AOE. Cliffs were ripped apart by its collision with the skull. Fulgora is not an electrical cannon lmfao what the helli that not how lightning works in OP

Some goes for Ikkoku, the hole made from the cannon is exactly the size of the attack: only way Kidd can have gone through it is WITH the attack.
It has shockwaves underneath it. Just stop


He did, but it's implied that he was hit after Misery started moving. Look at the panel below:
I'm not 100% sure about this, its left vague, but I think he was hit.

What's really CLEAR is Fulgora and Ikkoku even more...
Vague doesn’t cut it. His blood drip is no different from earlier in the ch AND he isn’t even panting. Kidd offscreen ran from Misery


Fulgora and Ikkoku didn’t hit Kidd. Oda made it blatantly clear thru visual cues and the way the attack works. Electrical cannon :kobeha:
 
#54
They got caught by AOE. Cliffs were ripped apart by its collision with the skull. Fulgora is not an electrical cannon lmfao what the helli that not how lightning works in OP


It has shockwaves underneath it. Just stop



Vague doesn’t cut it. His blood drip is no different from earlier in the ch AND he isn’t even panting. Kidd offscreen ran from Misery


Fulgora and Ikkoku didn’t hit Kidd. Oda made it blatantly clear thru visual cues and the way the attack works. Electrical cannon :kobeha:
Bruh that shockwave does't cover the range at all, you're climbing mirrors with that.

The Ikkoku panel is so clear that is not worth arguing, your bias blinds you.

Read it the way it makes you feel better tho, it's your problem.

:MicDrop:
 
#56
Bruh that shockwave does't cover the range at all, you're climbing mirrors with that.

The Ikkoku panel is so clear that is not worth arguing, your bias blinds you.

Read it the way it makes you feel better tho, it's your problem.

:MicDrop:
I showed you multiple lightning panels that indicate lightning attacks don’t blast + Kidd’s position relative to where Fulgora hit

I showed an example where Ikkoku has shockwaves right underneath the beam bc Lolda already established it ages ago

But now I have to argue Kidd’s scrap metal >>> somehow survived where buildings built with steel beams that could dmg BM didn’t:gokulaugh::gokulaugh:


Nah yall n1ggas are cooked :milaugh:basic visual comprehension goes out the mutherfucking window here:josad:
 
#59
@rerere lmfao wait a min I’m fucking blind:suresure:



you and @SkySanji really tried to headcanon some braindead idea that Ikkoku doesn’t produce shockwaves when we see fodder getting blown away by *gasp* SHOCKWAVES:suresure::suresure::suresure: gtfo here
I mean, every powerful attack has absurd force behind it. That's pretty obvious.
The thing is Kidd was in the epicenter of the attack and was practically fine afterwards.
 
#60
I mean, every powerful attack has absurd force behind it. That's pretty obvious.
The thing is Kidd was in the epicenter of the attack and was practically fine afterwards.
That’s not how ts works

The fodder is dead right in the center too

Kidd was shown getting blown away by it

His scrap metal wasn’t destroyed by it

Kidd didn’t tank shit. He then proceeded to get KOd alongside Law by Bigger Mum offscreen
 
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