Powers & Abilities How Shanks Beat Loki

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Never said or implied he didnt

fair enough

 

[TheD.]

Bruising, bleeding whatever. Point is that Loki got damaged which counters the idea that Loki won easily.

And this poor translation still has him catching his breath. The official translation has him huffing.

Zero damage lol,i just looked at official translations and still couldn’t find him huffing

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

shanks never beat loki. loki and shanks just lied and he tied himself up in the underworld so that harald could die a good king

 

[TheD.]

shanks never beat loki. loki and shanks just lied and he tied himself up in the underworld so that harald could die a good king

I’m also thinking they’re actually just good friends and they have each others vivre card which is how loki knows where shanks is at

 

[ZenZu]

shanks never beat loki. loki and shanks just lied and he tied himself up in the underworld so that harald could die a good king

This was my first thought after last chapter's events. Why would Gaban believe Loki is a bad guy to begin with.

 

[sanjikun]

I think it's probably that Loki wanted to attack the Celestial Dragons, and Shanks told him it was too early.

They clashed over it, and Shanks chained him up until Luffy arrived. That's also prob why Loki called him a coward, cause he didn't join him.

 

[eamonpro]

I’m also thinking they’re actually just good friends and they have each others vivre card which is how loki knows where shanks is at

Yeah when loki called shanks a coward it actually kinda reminded me of how shanks himself loved to tease luffy

itd be funny if Loki decided to get a laugh out of this kid shanks told him was so fun to tease by testing how easy you could get a rise out of him

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Loki is a DF merchant. Sure, he has strong haki. But nothing suggests it is especially strong. Can he use FS? Can he use internal destruction CoA? Can he split the sky?

I’m not really sure.

 

[PuckTheGreat]

Loki PK+ level bros already coming up with excuses like future sight with prep etc. to justify Shanks capturing Loki 😂

Don’t make excuses and stand on business, let’s not act like Shanks is gonna be overpowering a bloody ancient giant in Loki who has a legendary DF on top of that in a clash of might/physical strength. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

If Shanks beats Loki then by y’all’s scaling of Loki he’s god tier which will make teach god tier+ and so on I guess 💀

Y’all ain’t weaseling yourselves out that claim lol

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

Loki PK+ level bros already coming up with excuses like future sight with prep etc. to justify Shanks capturing Loki 😂

Don’t make excuses and stand on business, let’s not act like Shanks is gonna be overpowering a bloody ancient giant in Loki who has a legendary DF on top of that in a clash of might/physical strength. There is more than one way to skin a cat.

If Shanks beats Loki then by y’all’s scaling of Loki he’s god tier which will make teach god tier+ and so on I guess 💀

Y’all ain’t weaseling yourselves out that claim lol

would just mean oda's weird with the scaling of his own verse
which isn't something new tbh

 

[PuckTheGreat]

would just mean oda's weird with the scaling of his own verse
which isn't something new tbh

I'm glad you know lol
it's not a scaling ting it's just Oda doing Oda tings
I'll always say this shit, when it comes to One Piece power scaling, the narrative will always be the most accurate barometer for that.
It was just two arcs ago when Oda had Zoro slicing up Kaido on the rooftop and then temporarily stopping a combined attack from two Yonko only to get ragdolled by King and said King getting negged by Aramaki who was embarassed by Shanks CoC

Just imagine if Loki joins the SHs after all of this gas

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I'm glad you know lol
it's not a scaling ting it's just Oda doing Oda tings
I'll always say this shit, when it comes to One Piece power scaling, the narrative will always be the most accurate barometer for that.
It was just two arcs ago when Oda had Zoro slicing up Kaido on the rooftop and then temporarily stopping a combined attack from two Yonko only to get ragdolled by King and said King getting negged by Aramaki who was embarassed by Shanks CoC

Just imagine if Loki joins the SHs after all of this gas

To be fair Zoro was nerfed against King and was also simultaneously fighting his own sword there LOL
But I see your point
Also Loki's not joining the Straw Hats imo, not just because of his strength but because of his size and how important he is as a character.
I don't see him just being another subordinate given what he's gone through and what he's done and will do in the future. He even has one of the fruits that Xebec thought was necessary to take down Imu.

 

[soupongo]

Imo oda retconned loki's strength. He initially planned him to be a low top tier but changed his mind and made him a semi god tier only behind imu and joyboy.

No Low top tier is going to be introduced talking about Ragnarok, mentioned as unstoppable, and desired by the WG, hyped by Gaban, desired by Big Mom in the big 2025 bro.

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Loki is a DF merchant. Sure, he has strong haki. But nothing suggests it is especially strong. Can he use FS? Can he use internal destruction CoA? Can he split the sky?

I’m not really sure.

Wtf are you even talking about? He's literally not been given a chance to show his haki,especially not something like skysplit or COA?

 

[MonsterKaido]

Even ragnir alone can clap the rat. Ragnir > Base Harald = Prime xebec/WB > Old WB > Shanks.

 

[Shiroyru]

shanks never beat loki. loki and shanks just lied and he tied himself up in the underworld so that harald could die a good king

This makes no sense. So Loki killed Harald, sailed around for 8 years, and randomly decided to tie himself up with seastone or willingly let Shanks/Gaban do it, but now he wants Luffy to free him?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

This makes no sense. So Loki killed Harald, sailed around for 8 years, and randomly decided to tie himself up with seastone or willingly let Shanks/Gaban do it, but now he wants Luffy to free him?

Loki likely tried to attack the World Government and Shanks convinced him not to

 

[TheD.]

This makes no sense. So Loki killed Harald, sailed around for 8 years, and randomly decided to tie himself up with seastone or willingly let Shanks/Gaban do it, but now he wants Luffy to free him?

Most likely some random nika nonsense that Oda will cook up I imagine loki bringing nika/joyboy up and shanks saying “it’s too early too change the world wait for joyboy”

 

[Garps tekkai]

We will from now on (and already did so) see what conquerors haki interaction and conquerors haki specialization entail. It started with coating, went on with that passive coat and the requirement of heightend haki mass in order to surpass it and it will only go on.

Shanks is very likely not stronger in the tradtional sense, but there's just a layer to CoC, that's still unexplored and was only teased/spoiled twice (GB < wifi + Gorosei < knot), besides fodder getting knocked out. CoC has a suppression quirk, that's probably even its strongest quirk- it can overwrite weaker/less concentrated wills and therefore willpower dependent actions and abilties.

I think that is what was primarily up with Shanks vs Loki. Shanks is one of the few CoC specialized guys, who knows all about it and I think he probably shut down either one or two or all of these things at the same time: Loki's CoO, Ragnir's will to fight and Loki's DF transformation.
And I see it getting countered by either physically dodging (less likely imo), CoC aura shooting against it or simply coating yourself and a sentient weapon like Ragnir in CoC.
Hence Loki, who hasn't mastered CoC coating yet, might have been free loot, even though at his max he's nearly unbeatable otherwise.

Edit: And I'm also willing to bet that Gyrphon has a special ability or is a semi sentient creature aswell and helped a LOT in this fight.

 

[[No Name]]

Shanks just won alone

 

[MonsterKaido]

We will from now on (and already did so) see what conquerors haki interaction and conquerors haki specialization entail. It started with coating, went on with that passive coat and the requirement of heightend haki mass in order to surpass it and it will only go on.

Shanks is very likely not stronger in the tradtional sense, but there's just a layer to CoC, that's still unexplored and was only teased/spoiled twice (GB < wifi + Gorosei < knot), besides fodder getting knocked out. CoC has a suppression quirk, that's probably even its strongest quirk- it can overwrite weaker/less concentrated wills and therefore willpower dependent actions and abilties.

I think that is what was primarily up with Shanks vs Loki. Shanks is one of the few CoC specialized guys, who knows all about it and I think he probably shut down either one or two or all of these things at the same time: Loki's CoO, Ragnir's will to fight and Loki's DF transformation.
And I see it getting countered by either physically dodging (less likely imo), CoC aura shooting against it or simply coating yourself and a sentient weapon like Ragnir in CoC.
Hence Loki, who hasn't mastered CoC coating yet, might have been free loot, even though at his max he's nearly unbeatable otherwise.

Edit: And I'm also willing to bet that Gyrphon has a special ability or is a semi sentient creature aswell and helped a LOT in this fight.

Just like shanks used "wifi" haki to beat Kidd. Acoc coating is peak haki when it comes to human tier characters. Garp and dodger showed us that. Wifi haki is simple basic COC visualized.