Speculations How will Oda shit on the other SHs dreams?

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Herrera95

#21
Oda also has been shitting on Usopp’s dream by making him act like a weak, pathetic coward throughout all of the Yonko Saga when he should be getting braver.
Do you even know what means to be brave/corajous? Is to act even with fear.

Usopp is not idiot like Luffy that doesn't fear anything because he doesn't understand his life is in danger. But he does anyway because he knows he have to do.

If anything Usopp is much more of a man than Luffy.
 
#22
Those things can change, and both are progressing towards their dreams.

The real SH's dream Oda shits on is Sanji's. Literally nothing is done to progress his dream. All Blue is located somewhere unknown, whereas all SH do is traveling to known islands who get locked on by Log Pose.
How do you guys get WCI Wano and a cover story and still think Sanji is more mistreated than Usopp and Chopper?
 
#30
They are passively searching the all blue. It clearly is not in the 4 seas because they are easily navigable, so if it exists, it must be on the grand line.
Specially the second part is the hardest to navigate as stated multiple times, so the best candidate for being the hidden place of the all blue.
Is this clear enough?
What do you mean passively searching?
They specifically went from island to island in the Paradise, all following the Log Pose. The route they take is whatever route other people take too, only Skypiea is different. So that's not passively searching, they just ignore it.
Especially in New World, where they have clear objectives from A to B, that's even more farther than "passively searching".
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How do you guys get WCI Wano and a cover story and still think Sanji is more mistreated than Usopp and Chopper?
Because finding new place and new people means chopper gets to learn more about illness, especially in Zou he gets to see their techniques and in Wano he gets to see the legendary medicine.

Usopp fought more and more people, it's his way proving himself as brave man of the sea by overcoming difficulties.

They both progress their dreams. On the other hand All Blue is never mentioned at all by MCs or side characters, and they only travel to known islands to islands.
 
#32
What do you mean passively searching?
They specifically went from island to island in the Paradise, all following the Log Pose. The route they take is whatever route other people take too, only Skypiea is different. So that's not passively searching, they just ignore it.
Especially in New World, where they have clear objectives from A to B, that's even more farther than "passively searching".
Since they have no idea where it could be, Sanji is "tagging along" because the only real place that the All Blue can be is in the New World, and given that nobody even mentions it and it's a legend, passively searching means "it must be somewhere that nobody else has been", which is implicitly Laugh Tale.
BTW, I don't expect them to arrive at Laugh Tale and say "oh the All Blue is not here". It's clear that the All Blue represents a dream, an ideal. And until Sanji dies he will search for it. It's not too hard to understand.
 
#33
Those things can change, and both are progressing towards their dreams.

The real SH's dream Oda shits on is Sanji's. Literally nothing is done to progress his dream. All Blue is located somewhere unknown, whereas all SH do is traveling to known islands who get locked on by Log Pose.
How would Sanji even "progress" torwards it though?
All Blue is treated as more of a legend/fairy tale than the One Piece itself. They either find it at some point or they don't, and it would be a misunderstanding of Sanji's character to act like the All Blue was ever as important to him as his love and dedication for the crew.
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Chopper's dream i feel is fundamentally impossible to achieve, but if he were to work with Vegapunk's technology to bring quality healthcare to the entire world it would probably be similar.
 
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#34
How would Sanji even "progress" torwards it though?
All Blue is treated as more of a legend/fairy tale than the One Piece itself. They either find it at some point or they don't, and it would be a misunderstanding of Sanji's character to act like the All Blue was ever as important to him as his love and dedication for the crew.
Ideally, if he is not bound by plot/SH, he would travel around here and there to various locations, not just straight forward/straight line. There are a lot of locations the SH skip/miss.



If we're talking about plot tie-in, he can progress it directly and indirectly in every arc.
- Directly, he could swim and dive around every island the SH encounter and check whether hints of All Blue present or not.
- Indirectly, he could gather info in every island the SH encounter (by books, asking people, etc).

1 small panel every 100 chapters/1 arc is enough. However Oda also didn't show some other nakama's progression, so it's not just Sanji. The difference is everyone progress their shit, Sanji's dream didn't.
 
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AverageNamiEnjoyer

#35
Zoro can be declared world strongest swordsman anytime in story. Same with Usopp

Franky's dream is to reach end of grand line.
Once we reach laugh tale , his dream will be completed.

Robin will learn about void century in laugh tale.

Laugh tale is located in opposite side of Red line where Laboon is
Luffy will destroy Red line. Then Brook and Laboon reunion can happen.

Maybe Jinbe dream will get fulfilled here too
Fishmen and mermaid has to come to surface if red line got destroyed.

After destroying Red line, All Blue will be created fulfilling Sanji's dream.

Chopper will cure the disease that Toki and Buggy had.
The only way devil fruit users of Strawhats can go to laugh tale
 
#36
Zoro can be declared world strongest swordsman anytime in story. Same with Usopp

Franky's dream is to reach end of grand line.
Once we reach laugh tale , his dream will be completed.

Robin will learn about void century in laugh tale.

Laugh tale is located in opposite side of Red line where Laboon is
Luffy will destroy Red line. Then Brook and Laboon reunion can happen.

Maybe Jinbe dream will get fulfilled here too
Fishmen and mermaid has to come to surface if red line got destroyed.

After destroying Red line, All Blue will be created fulfilling Sanji's dream.

Chopper will cure the disease that Toki and Buggy had.
The only way devil fruit users of Strawhats can go to laugh tale
nami?
 
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Jailer

#40
Oda shat on Chopper’s dream to cure any disease when he said in an SBS that Chopper couldn’t cure SMILE because it’s incurable. Oda also has been shitting on Usopp’s dream by making him act like a weak, pathetic coward throughout all of the Yonko Saga when he should be getting braver.

How will he shit on the other SHs dreams?
He didn't shit on choppers dream with the smiles thing, you don't even know what curing smiles mean. He only shat on his dream when he failed to cure Luffy of poison.

Stupid ass thread
 
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