General & Others How will Oda top this design?

[Ryuarashi]

Fuck that thought... with all respect lol
Sanji has been getting nerfed by Oda for the longest!

Every SH member is allowed to use:
1- All their limbs in a fight
2- a weapon of choice (either a DF or a tool or both)

Except for Sanji:
1- No hands
2- No weapons

Oda finally gave Sanji one of those two restrictions!
You cannot advance in anything in life by just being stubborn!

You cannot cure diseases magically without doing anything, people have to advance and use medicine!

Everyone is allowed in the crew to advance except for Sanji apparantly, weird

You have a point however no weapons, no hands and not hitting women thats what makes Sanji unique amount the strawhats, I don't consider those aspect to be a nerf because thats how the character was introduced from day one.

Now he will now be using the power of the same family that tortured and ridiculed him.

Heck I'd be completely fine with it if the raid suit eventually activated his germa cells mid fight and it get destroyed serving its purpose. Franky and Usopp can working repairing or making a replica for comic relief.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

You have a point however no weapons, no hands and not hitting women thats what makes Sanji unique amount the strawhats.

Now he will now be using the power of the same family that tortured and ridiculed him.

That makes Sanji a better character, cause there comes a point where if someone died or got hurt because you didn't use that power, ALL OF YOU, then he is to blame, because he was SO WEAK hearted, to actually realize that it's NOT the technology that hurt him, it's his family

The technology is something
His father is something else

Remember that Weapons can be used to KILL and murder, and it can be used to defend the ones you love... The idea of blaming a weapon, is honestly with all my respect to you is SO FLAWED

Let's imagine that you are from a family with LOTS OF PULLS, and power, and you hated their dirty ways of doing stuff... but one day, there was a chance for you to do some good because you're from that bloodline, where for example, you can help people in need through using your name or something... Would you actually be SO WEAK and ignore those people? just to not admit you're from that family? or would you actually swallow your pride and if there was a chance to use such power and pull for the good, you do it?

This is really what Sanji said "we are againts a Yonko, there comes a time where pride stands in the way of SAVING ONE LIFE" He's WAAAAAAAAAAY better character because his put on the Suit immediately, and he wasn't cornered and had to use it out of desperation, because using it out of desperation is WORSE for his character, while putting it on that easily makes him much better character...

 

[Lunaria]

It won’t be that difficult (but the the old design was good). I would give him a white suit and a white feather coat with purple lining (instead of the black cloak with red lining), a purple shirt, a loosened black tie, classic black gloves and a light blue pirate sash instead of the old belt. No headphones. I would keep the glasses because they’re awesome. The boots can’t change drastically because he needs the flotation device and the accelerators so I’d just turn them into shoes.

I’d really like to see a drawing of that.

I made a quick redesign of it a while ago, actually. I basically followed what I commented on this post from another thread:



My redesign was this:

Spoiler

To summarize, still looking like an abnormal suit (hence the gloves, the bulkier look, the open neck) but stressing a resemblance to a chef outfit (jacket and scarf) while emphasizing its visual verticality and, with it, the stealth and speed. I don't think all of those over the top details like the headphones, weird hair, mask... fit at all Sanji's natural style, so I ommited or reused them.

To my redesign I would be fine with adding the propellers to the shoes, albeit more subtle, and maybe the glasses. But that's it.

Interesting design (he kinda looks like a Marine though). Oda will probably go with something flashier.

 

[Ryuarashi]

That makes Sanji a better character, cause there comes a point where if someone died or got hurt because you didn't use that power, ALL OF YOU, then he is to blame, because he was SO WEAK hearted, to actually realize that it's NOT the technology that hurt him, it's his family

The technology is something
His father is something else

Remember that Weapons can be used to KILL and murder, and it can be used to defend the ones you love... The idea of blaming a weapon, is honestly with all my respect to you is SO FLAWED

Let's imagine that you are from a family with LOTS OF PULLS, and power, and you hated their dirty ways of doing stuff... but one day, there was a chance for you to do some good because you're from that bloodline, where for example, you can help people in need through using your name or something... Would you actually be SO WEAK and ignore those people? just to not admit you're from that family? or would you actually swallow your pride and if there was a chance to use such power and pull for the good, you do it?

This is really what Sanji said "we are againts a Yonko, there comes a time where pride stands in the way of SAVING ONE LIFE" He's WAAAAAAAAAAY better character because his put on the Suit immediately, and he wasn't cornered and had to use it out of desperation, because using it out of desperation is WORSE for his character, while putting it on that easily makes him much better character...

In a desperate situation im sure Sanji will use whatever power (raidsuit) he has to win however this makes the character look weak and gimicky because he's not depending on his own power.

For example theres nothing wrong with Zoro getting a new weapon and becoming stronger because has always been using weapons and thats how he was introduced.

Outside of water 7 Sanji has never used weapons before, now having the raid suit he will be on a higher level however whats stopping him from reaching that level without the raidsuit? Why does he need the raid suit to show that he's a competent fighter when he was already doing that for for majority of the manga.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

In a desperate situation im sure Sanji will use whatever power (raidsuit) he has to win however this makes the character look weak and gimicky because he's not depending on his own power.

For example theres nothing wrong with Zoro getting a new weapon and becoming stronger because has always been using weapons and thats how he was introduced.

Outside of water 7 Sanji has never used weapons before, now having the raid suit he will be on a higher level however whats stopping him from reaching that level without the raidsuit? Why does he need the raid suit to show that he's a competent fighter when he was already doing that for for majority of the manga.

Why shouldn't he grow stronger through BOTH, personal strength and outside weapon? He can do both, it's not like him having Raid Suit will stop him from growing stronger on personal level, he can do both my friend

 

[Koro]

didn't we have a thread like this before?

 

[Chrono]

I made a quick redesign of it a while ago, actually. I basically followed what I commented on this post from another thread:



My redesign was this:

Spoiler

To summarize, still looking like an abnormal suit (hence the gloves, the bulkier look, the open neck) but stressing a resemblance to a chef outfit (jacket and scarf) while emphasizing its visual verticality and, with it, the stealth and speed. I don't think all of those over the top details like the headphones, weird hair, mask... fit at all Sanji's natural style, so I ommited or reused them.

To my redesign I would be fine with adding the propellers to the shoes, albeit more subtle, and maybe the glasses. But that's it.

That looks cool. So you believe Sanji loses the boosters ? Cause thats the biggest problem in my eyes.

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Maybe Sanji will make them modify it in such a way that the Mask is "optional"
For example, when he wanys to hide his face, he can raise the mask, if he wants to smoke cigarette and can reveal his face, his mask can be lowered

Maybe he just felt the need for smoking Lol

 

[Constantine]

Yeah i hate the raid suit . Sanji is a cook and a pirate first , the RS doesnt suit someone like that. It is a weapon for assassins like the Vinsmokes
Hopefully it is a one arc thing( like sogeking)or atleast Oda will change its design because now he looks more like a Vinsmoke than a Strawhat.

 

[kamew]

I hope he uses the dagger while using the raid suit, but not much hope because that would make him too dangerous and become a serial killer, like Cavendish.

 

[sanjikun]

Luffy can use a Devil Fruit that Shanks found, and Zoro can use Oden's weapon made by his own Shimotsuki clan, but Sanji has to "do it on its own" and can't use Vinsmoke suit.

Doesn't matter how he dresses it up, a turd is still a turd.

Best option is just to turn it exactly into a replica of Sanji's regular suits so we can try and pretend it's not there.

Hoping that it gets destroyed instead of a redesign.

I want Sanji to depend on his own power like has been doing for majority of the series.

Butthurt Vinsmoke haters still butthurt years later

That suit has been amazingly received in the community except a few salty Germa haters. Go on youtube and see how much the anime-only watchers like it.

 

[trav]

by removing the cape, the glasses, the head gear, the hairdo, the scarf, the jumpsuit, the idiotic shoes and the gloves, then strap a nice suit on.

thats how.

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That suit has been amazingly received in the community

Go on youtube and see how much the anime-only watchers like it.

 

[Ryuarashi]

Luffy can use a Devil Fruit that Shanks found, and Zoro can use Oden's weapon made by his own Shimotsuki clan, but Sanji has to "do it on its own" and can't use Vinsmoke suit.




Butthurt Vinsmoke haters still butthurt years later

That suit has been amazingly received in the community except a few salty Germa haters. Go on youtube and see how much the anime-only watchers like it.

Not butthurt, I just like the character without the gimmicky suit.

If Sanji needs a suit to be strong then I guess thats just Oda indirectly saying Sanji is no longer apart of the "Monster trio" even though its a fan made term.

 

[Lion of Olympus]

I’ll never understand how some of Sanji’s “fans” like him using the suit. Like, don’t y’all want him to be strong without relying on Germa’s tech

 

[Lunaria]

Not butthurt, I just like the character without the gimmicky suit.

If Sanji needs a suit to be strong then I guess he's no longer apart of the "Monster trio".

Yes, personally I totally agree but that’s not the point of the thread though. It’s not necessary to bring that out every time someone wants to talk about the RS redesign/abilities. Those who like it can have fun talking about it, they don’t need party poopers.

 

[Lion of Olympus]

Make the suit itself invisible so I can pretend it’s not there

 

[RecoomeBoom]

Not butthurt, I just like the character without the gimmicky suit.

If Sanji needs a suit to be strong then I guess thats just Oda indirectly saying Sanji is no longer apart of the "Monster trio" even though its a fan made term.

I don't think it's that deep in shonen. A powerup is a powerup. Randomly gaining some epiphany during battle is no different than the raid suit.

The only difference is that Oda and his readers get to have more fun with a power ranger now.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Holy shit, the RS hate is realI mean I get that power-up thing but still, the design is cool at leastIn my opinion, maybe the headphone and the shoes should go away, the hair is fine and everything else look fine to me

Lipstick, wig & makeup

RS Sanji one shot Enma Zoro

 

[Sadistic Senpai]

Holy shit, the RS hate is realI mean I get that power-up thing but still, the design is cool at leastIn my opinion, maybe the headphone and the shoes should go away, the hair is fine and everything else look fine to me

RS Sanji one shot Enma Zoro

How I wish for Sanji to add blades on the tip of his shoes! That would be dope as fuck

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

How I wish for Sanji to add blades on the tip of his shoes! That would be dope as fuck

That would be very funny LOL