Speculations How will Oda treat Kizaru vs Luffy/Zoro/Sanji?

#1
I ask not even because of the countless back-and-forth between Emperor and Admiral boys, but because from a logical standpoint, Luffy/Zoro > Kizaru.
I mean, they seem to have more strength, better Haki, better fruits ( in Luffy's case ), etc.
But I know this can't be the case in story, they can't have so many advantages if their enemy is still supposed to be threatening.
I see a few options:
One: Kizaru him self has grown and has better Haki than before, and even awakened his Logia.
Two: They make Luffy/Zoro weaker via some excuse like they did with Sickbeard, where Sickbeard practically had cancer and heart problems once he got stabbed by Squard.
Three: Luffy/Zoro don't try 100%.
I do believe that it's either the 1st or 3rd, because we've seen villains get stronger before, some being a threat and some not ( Lucci is an example of the latter ).
And we've also seen Luffy not try 100%. He used G5 against Lucci and G4 against a Seraph, but neither of those characters are Kaidou level, especially as Luffy didn't use Advanced Haki or any "special abilities" ( like turning into a giant or throwing thunder at them ).
Plus, when Luffy clashed with Fujitora, he didn't even use G4.
Nor did Yamato use her DF when she slammed GB.
So I wonder just how will Oda handle this.
How hard will Luffy, or Zoro, or anyone else worthy of fighting an Admiral, have to try?
Don't start turning this thread into a dick measuring contest between Admiral wankers and Yonko wankers, I don't give a fuck, though I do think Emperors are stronger I think you should all respect each other's opinions.
 
#6
It's not Kizaru time to fall at the egghead at most they will have a few clashes until Saturn secures the seraphim and maybe finish the Punks.

There has been a lot of Logia hype in egghead, Kizaru can easily show awakening.

Also the only tension that egghead has is Kizaru, if he was that weaker Oda would have sent two admirals.

So he believes Kizaru alone is a threat that creates tension narratively.
 
#8
It's not Kizaru time to fall at the egghead at most they will have a few clashes until Saturn secures the seraphim and maybe finish the Punks.

There has been a lot of Logia hype in egghead, Kizaru can easily show awakening.

Also the only tension that egghead has is Kizaru, if he was that weaker Oda would have sent two admirals.

So he believes Kizaru alone is a threat that creates tension narratively.
Sending 2 Admirals might result in 2 Admirals dying/being captured.
They have no idea how strong their enemies are however they are still bringing a shit ton of fleets in.
 
#9
There's no way all three of them would jump kizaru. There maybe 2 possible scenarios scenarios i think

The first could be where zoro clashes with kizaru for 1-2 attacks before luffy takes over which would be high-diff fight but with no conclusion (maybe kizaru pulls back due to saturn)

The second scenario is heavily dependent on the assumption that gorosei are yonko/admiral level strong which makes the luffy vs saturn matchup possible. This opens up zoro and sanji vs kizaru matchup which if it turns as an allout fight then kizaru slaughters them
 
#12
I mean, they seem to have more strength, better Haki, better fruits ( in Luffy's case ), etc.
It definitely doesn't make sense for more than one person to fight Kizaru, before the powerup they already fought the strongest creature in the world, at this point you don't even need to include Sanji, there is no one in the world capable of dealing with Luffy and Zoro at the same time.

As Luffy is the captain I believe he will deal with Kizaru.
 
#13
Why is sanji in this discussion,get your shit together
So the Lanji fans don't come after me.
Notice I only mention his name and don't even bother actually talking about him.
It definitely doesn't make sense for more than one person to fight Kizaru, before the powerup they already fought the strongest creature in the world, at this point you don't even need to include Sanji, there is no one in the world capable of dealing with Luffy and Zoro at the same time.

As Luffy is the captain I believe he will deal with Kizaru.
I'm not saying it's gonna be a 2v1.
They're gonna 1v1 Kizaru.
But will Zoro try to protect his captain or will Luffy try to deal with it him self?
 
#14
Man I really wish that it would be Zoro/Sanji/Jimbe or just Zoro Sanji. I don't mean to disrespect Kizaru at all so don't take me wrong.
I mean it's time for the SHs to show that they are a level above any mere Yonko crew.
 
#19
Kizaru will fight Luffy while the Seraphim & Pacifista are turned on the rest.

It’s even possible for other Marines like Smoker or whatnot to be accompanying the fleet and deal with the Commanders while Kizaru is busy with Luffy.

Luffy will have to go all out of course, and the drawbacks may be the reason given for the Strawhats to retreat with things turning against them.

Either way, I don’t see a long prolonged fight, and the Strawhats will have to flee in the end while the Seraphim remain under WG control.
 
#20
I ask not even because of the countless back-and-forth between Emperor and Admiral boys, but because from a logical standpoint, Luffy/Zoro > Kizaru.
I mean, they seem to have more strength, better Haki, better fruits ( in Luffy's case ), etc.
But I know this can't be the case in story, they can't have so many advantages if their enemy is still supposed to be threatening.
I see a few options:
One: Kizaru him self has grown and has better Haki than before, and even awakened his Logia.
Two: They make Luffy/Zoro weaker via some excuse like they did with Sickbeard, where Sickbeard practically had cancer and heart problems once he got stabbed by Squard.
Three: Luffy/Zoro don't try 100%.
I do believe that it's either the 1st or 3rd, because we've seen villains get stronger before, some being a threat and some not ( Lucci is an example of the latter ).
And we've also seen Luffy not try 100%. He used G5 against Lucci and G4 against a Seraph, but neither of those characters are Kaidou level, especially as Luffy didn't use Advanced Haki or any "special abilities" ( like turning into a giant or throwing thunder at them ).
Plus, when Luffy clashed with Fujitora, he didn't even use G4.
Nor did Yamato use her DF when she slammed GB.
So I wonder just how will Oda handle this.
How hard will Luffy, or Zoro, or anyone else worthy of fighting an Admiral, have to try?
Don't start turning this thread into a dick measuring contest between Admiral wankers and Yonko wankers, I don't give a fuck, though I do think Emperors are stronger I think you should all respect each other's opinions.
You mentioned Sanji in this thread but only talked about Luffy Zoro lmao?

To me its like
If Luffy or Zoro fought..they'd have big clash with Kizaru both sides will look good and fans will get fan service

If Sanji faced Kizaru..well look at doggys past

King
Doffy
Vergo

That should tell you
 
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