Speculations How will SHPs surpass Roger Pirates?

[DonWick]

You want a fresh Mihawk to surpass Prime Roger? That's like asking Paradise Luffy to be G5 level.

I guess you wank Mihawk more than even Zoro and Mihawk fans. Such high standards....

What are you talking about. I don’t have Zoro or Mihawk > Roger. You clearly misunderstood my post.

 

[Marimo_420]

What are you talking about. I don’t have Zoro or Mihawk > Roger. You clearly misunderstood my post.

You're saying "Mihawk wasn't WSS when Roger ruled the seas"

No shit. He was barely 20 years old at that time. Starting out his journey

 

[Sir Yasheen]

That's your headcanon with garp.
But yea do they get weaker or more should I say low stamina. They can't keep up in a long duration fight , they will die.



It was stated luffy struggled with them.
I only see that as him being nothing but a fodder among fodder.
Ray probably can selectivelt use coc on people.


Who and what was this?

Garp “they don’t throw half as fast as they used to” meaning his physical strength dropped significantly in his age.

Luffy struggled with some of the beasts not all of them. And if Rayleigh didn’t try to knock out penguin, he wouldn’t have specifically mentioned the CoC almost knocking him out.

Crocodile started it in Marineford

 

[DonWick]

You're saying "Mihawk wasn't WSS when Roger ruled the seas"

No shit. He was barely 20 years old at that time. Starting out his journey

So what the hell are you talking about?

 

[Foul Legacy]

Garp “they don’t throw half as fast as they used to” meaning his physical strength dropped significantly in his age.

I don't understand give me the panel or context.

Luffy struggled with some of the beasts not all of them. And if Rayleigh didn’t try to knock out penguin, he wouldn’t have specifically mentioned the CoC almost knocking him out.

It was simply oda way of hyping him.
Oda already said shanks and ray CoC is similar. When asked about it.

Crocodile started it in Marineford

Ofc he was disappointed lol.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I don't understand give me the panel or context.



It was simply oda way of hyping him.
Oda already said shanks and ray CoC is similar. When asked about it.



Ofc he was disappointed lol.

Garp throwing Cannonballs at the end of Water 7 to Luffy after stating he has to sink the sunny.

And yeah Rayleigh and Shanks may have similar CoC, not Roger and Shanks.

 

[Marimo_420]

So what the hell are you talking about?

What the hell are you talking about?

You got dementia on what you wrote?

"16-20 year old Mihawk wasn't WSS when Roger was ruling the seas in his prime"

That means he's somehow weaker. Flase equivalence.

It's like saying EB luffy wasn't prime Roger level. Well done.

 

[Foul Legacy]

And yeah Rayleigh and Shanks may have similar CoC, not Roger and Shanks

Yea bur would that also mean Shanks can't knock out Penguin with CoC?

 

[DonWick]

What the hell are you talking about?

You got dementia on what you wrote?

"16-20 year old Mihawk wasn't WSS when Roger was ruling the seas in his prime"

That means he's somehow weaker. Flase equivalence.

It's like saying EB luffy wasn't prime Roger level. Well done.

I was disputing someone else’s post. I know exactly what time talking about.

 

[RZ.119]

Luffy > roger
Zoro > oden
Sanji > Rayleigh
Jinbe if he stays 4th strongest > gaban
Rest of the crew + fleet > the other roger pirates

Rayleigh > Oden
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Luffy will be stronger than Roger, Zoro would be close/equal to Roger/Primebeard tier depending on how much Oda wanks him, I could even hear the argument he'd be stronger since Roger was a swordsman, Sanji will be above Oden and relative to prime Ray

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yea bur would that also mean Shanks can't knock out Penguin with CoC?

Shanks could, prime Rayleigh could. Old Rayleigh can’t.
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Rayleigh > Oden
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Luffy will be stronger than Roger, Zoro would be close/equal to Roger/Primebeard tier depending on how much Oda wanks him, I could even hear the argument he'd be stronger since Roger was a swordsman, Sanji will be above Oden and relative to prime Ray

^ This. I think it’s possible Sanji can reach Kaido level depending on the final war but Prime Ray/Shanks level is def the baseline.

 

[Foul Legacy]

Shanks could, prime Rayleigh could. Old Rayleigh can’t

And where did this came from?
Oda only said rayleigh and shanks.

 

[Sentry22]

You want a fresh Mihawk to surpass Prime Roger? That's like asking Paradise Luffy to be G5 level.

I guess you wank Mihawk more than even Zoro and Mihawk fans. Such high standards....

WSS and WSC both know their place when it comes to Roger.

The only ones trying to push this brain dead take are Mihawk/Zoro fans.

 

[Jailer]

Doubt they can, the Roger Pirates and RHP are full of badasses, Straw hats aren't fit to surpass them they give off a different energy Zoro alone can't carry them