Speculations How will the Strawhat Pirates Surpass the Rocks Pirates..

[Rootbeer]

So i will just lay my thoughts on the subject bare without much explanation..

Luffy will have at least ''' 4 ''' in verse Gods under him in his crew, like the Sun God Nika..


There are actually ''' 9 ''' Gods in the One Piece World.. Only '' 6 '' of them have manifested so
far in the First and Second World..

- The Sun God
- The Earth God
- The Forest God
- The Sea God
- The Rain God

- The Moon God


The Harley phrase from the 3rd World '' They will Surely Meet '' refers to the first time ever the '' 9 '' Gods will meet..


If you take a look at the Planetary System..

There are 2 moons on each elliptical orbits.. Meaning the God Names are interconnected pairs..

For example, the Forest God and the Earth God.. Forest and Trees come from the ground, the soil..


With that in mind, i can establish 2 other Gods that have not yet Appeared in One Piece..

The God that is that is Associated with the Rain God.. The '' Cloud God '', or Sky God whatever you want
to call it..

Then there's the God Associated with the Sea God.. The '' Abyss God '', or the Ocean Depths.. Also called the
Underworld..

Where '' Darkness '' and Crushing Water '' Pressure '' coexist.. Does that remind you of someone..

Imu has the same goal as Blackbeard, its trying to sink the whole world to get the Deep Black Sea bigger
and Manifest the Abyss God in the World..

Once Imu realizes Blackbeard is the Abyss God, she will actually Join Blackbeard's crew..



Anyway moving on to the 3rd and last God who has yet to manifest.. There's no clear connection
like the other Gods, but he's the old protector of the Moon God ruler of other Gods.. For lack of
better words, the '' Sword God ''.. Not Sword God in title only, but a true Sword God..

Zoro will Manifest the Sword God through his Blades and will have a Zoan Transaformation similar
to Luffy..

So i think Luffy the Sun God will have as Nakama..

- Sword God
- Cloud God
- Rain God
- Forest God


Rocks had 4 Future Yonkos under him..

Luffy will have 4 in verse God under him..

 

[Santoryu D Bazooka]

As in comparison AND in order to surpass Rocks. All of these "Gods" must have AdvCoC

 

[MonsterKaido]

Luffy alone will be in god tier and much above PK tiers like roger.

But other than that I am not sure. Zoro will be stronger than PK tier but I don't think the gap would be that big.

Basically luffy aside rocks pirates as a whole will be stronger.

 

[Dark Knight Sanji]

Luffy will be on Joyboy/Nika level stronger than any Pirate King by a good margin.

Zoro should be on a level above the Yonkou, based on surpassing Mihawk but won’t surpass Roger.

Sanji should be stronger than the Admirals, maybe Fleet Admiral Level/Weakest Yonkou.

Yamato should be able to fight Admirals but will lose. It’s clear that Oda want to maintain a hierarchy with Luffy, Zoro and Sanji as the top three. We even had the clear distinction that their analogues were far above any crewmate I.e. Roger, Rayleigh and Gaban.

Loki won’t join the main Crew but if he does he should be able to match Sanji as a wild card but Sanji should still be a shade more powerful.

So you will have Luffy stronger than Xebec by a good deal (mid diff territory). Relatively fresh and able to fight for longer if required.

Zoro should be able to eke out a win against Whitebeard (when he was on Rocks) Primebeard still wins.

Sanji should be able to eke out a win against Shiki or he would lose extremextreme diff to the point where Shiki will be out of commission anyway.

Loki should be able to beat Silver Axe, high diff.

Yamato would lose to Big Mom but will do enough damage that Luffy can one shot.

Jimbei, Franky and Robin should be able to again either eke out a victory against Gloriosa, Young Kaido, Wang Zhi or do enough damage so that Luffy can one shot easily.

The rest can be easily beaten by Luffy alone even after mid diffing a pirate king level threat.

 

[Punishhh]

Rocks Pirates are a bunch of bums who didn't achieve anything.

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Zoro>>>Rocks eos
Sanji>>>WB eos

btw

 

[Marco]

Luffy and Zoro will be above prime WB and Xebec, Sanji atleast admiral level to above Shiki (Xebec's left hand). Rest have no chance. Rocks crew >> any crew

 

[Don Diego]

Zoro will be above prime WB

When pigs fly

 

[MonochromeYoru]

 

[Paragorn]

Not sure if SHs will surpass Rocks. Rocks were too broken, most of them were Top Tiers, even Silver Axe got massive hype.

Sure, M3 will have an massive power growing, but the rest of the crew? Nah

 

[Don Diego]

Not sure if SHs will surpass Rocks. Rocks were too broken, most of them were Top Tiers, even Silver Axe got massive hype.

Sure, M3 will have an massive power growing, but the rest of the crew? Nah

Luffy alone will be stronger than the entire Rocks crew, but his crew is/was and will be useless.

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

The strawhats don't necessarily need to surpass the Rocks Pirates in terms of strength. I think that it's basically impossible for any crew, considering the number of top tiers (and future top tiers) that the crew had (but maybe the Grand Fleet will be able to match it). The thing about Rocks is that it was a chaotic ragtag from the start: there was no loyalty and everyone had their own agendas, so that's probably why it didn't work out. Blackbeard might meet the same fate due to the very same reasons (but maybe he knows about Xebec's failure and made countermeasures for it).

If we're talking about feats, the Roger Pirates surpassed the Rocks Pirates. That's the main goal for a (true) pirate in One Piece, to find it. It's also Luffy's ambition (actually, he has an yet-to-be-revealed dream, in which the Pirate King title plays a role, but that's what will make him better than Roger; if he only finds the One Piece, he'll just be equal to him).