General & Others I don’t get it with Enma

[warsame zaylai]

After rereading wano
Enma didn’t make zoro stronger rather it changed his mentality that was holding him back when he finally let it go that’s when he became stronger

“How should I stabilise my haki then ?! If i have to exuding it at this level it will kill me “

from the looks of it the only reason why zoro was holding back it’s because he didn’t want to die ?
bro it’s new fucking world you can’t hold back at anything and expect to grow.

don’t make sense why zoro was holding back in the first place
I feel like oda randomly made that shit up

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

After rereading wano
Enma didn’t make zoro stronger rather it changed his mentality that was holding him back when he finally let it go that’s when he became stronger

“How should I stabilise my haki then ?! If i have to exuding it at this level it will kill me “

from the looks of it the only reason why zoro was holding back it’s because he didn’t want to die ?
bro it’s new fucking world you can’t hold back at anything and expect to grow.

don’t make sense why zoro was holding back in the first place
I feel like oda randomly made that shit up

Have been saying this shit for the longest.

There's was no Haki improvement until King fight since time skip zoro. It's the same literal Zoro.

Enma Suck more Haki and increases the AP.
It's almost as if , Luffy gear 4 , Where he uses a lot of Haki in a short spam of time.

Downside - Gear 4 makes luffy unable to use Haki afterwards, Enma straight up kills the user if you don't have good Haki control.

Only Advanced Conqueror and CoA boost is the only thing Zoro got against King.

That's legit his only power up since time skip

 

[Sir Yasheen]

He can’t naturally pump out that much haki. He thought the way to master Enma was to better control limiting how much haki it pulls and only letting it use its ability during some attacks.

What allowed his growth to learning KoH is realizing that trying to stop Enma is useless, the only way to control Enma is to let it do what it wants and fight with it not against it.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

He can’t naturally pump out that much haki.

He can , he choose not.
Attacks like Ashura is literally that , and he didn't pull it out until kaidou in post time skip.

He doesn't have to go all out against majority of the opponent he has faced.

 

[warsame zaylai]

Have been saying this shit for the longest.

There's was no Haki improvement until King fight since time skip zoro. It's the same literal Zoro.

Enma Suck more Haki and increases the AP.
It's almost as if , Luffy gear 4 , Where he uses a lot of Haki in a short spam of time.

Downside - Gear 4 makes luffy unable to use Haki afterwards, Enma straight up kills the user if you don't have good Haki control.

Only Advanced Conqueror and CoA boost is the only thing Zoro got against King.

That's legit his only power up since time skip

I don’t get it as well
Enma sucks more haki and releases stronger attack or power
We already knew this from the beginning the more haki is applied the stronger it gets

zoro was capable doing this without Enma or before Enma but he didn’t because he thought if he kept using that much haki he will die

my question is that
Why was zoro holding back in the first place
Was Enma needed for that ?
He didn’t even need advance CoC haki for something like king

 

[Sir Yasheen]

He can , he choose not.
Attacks like Ashura is literally that , and he didn't pull it out until kaidou in post time skip.

He doesn't have to go all out against majority of the opponent he has faced.

Zoro disagrees with you, he himself said on the rooftop he has to unleash Enma more, meaning he needs to let Enma pull out more of his haki. Zoro couldnt use that level of haki without Enma forcing it out of him.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Why was zoro holding back in the first place

Because he doesn't have to go all out.
He is strong in base.

Was Enma needed for that ?

I would say yes , Unless he unleashes everything he would never grow.

He didn’t even need advance CoC haki for something like king

Strong CoA attacks might work , But king tanked Bird dance on point blank range. I would say AdCoC was neccesary

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Zoro disagrees with you, he himself said on the rooftop he has to unleash Enma more, meaning he needs to let Enma pull out more of his haki. Zoro couldnt use that level of haki without Enma forcing it out of him.

He needs unleash more is the legit Proof he can if he wants to.
Amount of haki you Use , is on you.

 

[Gauntlet]

Zoro disagrees with you, he himself said on the rooftop he has to unleash Enma more, meaning he needs to let Enma pull out more of his haki. Zoro couldnt use that level of haki without Enma forcing it out of him.

I took him saying that meaning that he'd need to lessen his restraint on Enma sucking his Haki out, which in turn allows Enma to take more of Zoro's Haki.

 

[warsame zaylai]

Zoro disagrees with you, he himself said on the rooftop he has to unleash Enma more, meaning he needs to let Enma pull out more of his haki. Zoro couldnt use that level of haki without Enma forcing it out of him.

but that doesn’t prove your point
We already know zoro been cuck blocking Enma the whole time so what zoro is saying give a bit more haki but not all

don’t u think it would be weird some with advanced CoA not be able to release that much haki ?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I took him saying that meaning that he'd need to lessen his restraint on Enma sucking his Haki out, which in turn allows Enma to take more of Zoro's Haki.

That’s what I’m saying. Zoro naturally can’t release the same amount of Haki that Enma allows him to. when Zoro first got Enma he thought the answer to getting stronger was controlling it and making it serve him like he did for the Sandai, so he was limiting Enma to what haki Zoro could normally output, but what made him stronger was rather working with Enma and just allowing Enma to pump it out of him. This made Zoro awaken his CoC in order to handle the haki drain which in turn allowed him to evolve his sword style to king of Hell.

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Only people who say enma is a buff are the ones who wants to discredit Zoro.
You will always see the " Lend me some Haki " , this is "X" we are up against.

 

[warsame zaylai]

Because he doesn't have to go all out.
He is strong in base.


I would say yes , Unless he unleashes everything he would never grow.



Strong CoA attacks might work , But king tanked Bird dance on point blank range. I would say AdCoC was neccesary

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He needs unleash more is the legit Proof he can if he wants to.
Amount of haki you Use , is on you.

Honestly I think Enma wasn’t needed

 

[Sir Yasheen]

but that doesn’t prove your point
We already know zoro been cuck blocking Enma the whole time so what zoro is saying give a bit more haki but not all

don’t u think it would be weird some with advanced CoA not be able to release that much haki ?

No? Can you force your body to use all the strength it has whenever you want? Enma is a limit breaker

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

That’s what I’m saying. Zoro naturally can’t release the same amount of Haki that Enma allows him to. when Zoro first got Enma he thought the answer to getting stronger was controlling it and making it serve him like he did for the Sandai, so he was limiting Enma to what haki Zoro could normally output, but what made him stronger was rather working with Enma and just allowing Enma to pump it out of him. This made Zoro awaken his CoC in order to handle the haki drain which in turn allowed him to evolve his sword style to king of Hell.

You're only partially correct.
It was never the case , " Zoro cannot pull out "

Zoro was never pushed to that limits until Kaidou and King.

He unleashed everything against Kaidou and King , resulting in ashura and King of hell.

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Honestly I think Enma wasn’t needed

It wasn't.
But I think oda had to give him a sword which isn't black already.
Hiyori said they are equally powerful. Thats why Zoro agreed with the exchange

 

[Gauntlet]

Now why was Zoro acting like a bitch about not wanting to output more Haki, well I don't have an answer for you. You'd think he'd lay it all on the line when push come to shove, but I guess not.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You're only partially correct.
It was never the case , " Zoro cannot pull out "

Zoro was never pushed to that limits until Kaidou and King.

He unleashed everything against Kaidou and King , resulting in ashura and King of hell.

Yeah that was only after “unleashing Enma” more as Zoro said it.

That level of strength was not possible to Zoro in one attack prior to Enma.

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Enma helps Zoro stabilize his Haki and Zoro gets to draw out his full potential (CoC Haki).

 

[Kōri no kokyū]

Yeah that was only after “unleashing Enma” more as Zoro said it.

That level of strength was not possible to Zoro in one attack prior to Enma.

Stop skipping the part where I said , Zoro didnt had to pull out that much of haki.

Which of his opponent needed AP on kaidou level?

Zoro was always strong is what people deny entire time.

If Zoro had Shusui on rooftop , More he pushed on rooftop , more AP he was gonna get and more Haki used.

 

[warsame zaylai]

No? Can you force your body to use all the strength it has whenever you want? Enma is a limit breaker

Yes if you have good level of mastery of your body

zoro not only he has good strong level of CoA but he also mastered the basic and the advanced

it’s stupid to think someone who has strong haki and can use advanced isn’t capable putting that much haki.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yes if you have good level of mastery of your body

zoro not only he has good strong level of CoA but he also mastered the basic and the advanced

it’s stupid to think someone who has strong haki and can use advanced isn’t capable putting that much haki.

Even then, no you can’t. If you used all the strength your muscles would allow, you’d break your own body with its force.

The human body naturally limits you to survive. Enma just breaks that limit.