General & Others I forgot how Oda treated Oden in Wano...

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

I think people fail to understand individuals like ray oden gaban in their primes were comparable to current day emperors.
The oden notoriety as a lot of you see is what happens when someone of that calibre resides in a country that has very little access to outside information.


Notice oden didn't recieve the same amount of acknowledgement when he stepped outside wano
its a classic case of a big fish in a little and then he went out to sea and saw other big fishes. People of wano are completely oblivious to that because its a closed country anyway but its one of the reasons he wanted its borders open.

And No he wasnt stronger than ray and gaban . Their names hold more notoriety in the world at large for a reason.

 

[Album]

I dont see a problem these are different situations luffy didnt want najiko to tell him namis backstory or trauma he wanted to hear it from her
this is different from a family directly telling him a story about their dead relative
there is a di
what happened with oden is more like if nami told him about bellemere

 

[DJOMOLO]

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Not for long, on and off right now

 

[Rumble]

So much of Wano just did not land with me.

I think I like most of what Oda did with Oda, but enough, and there are some choices I really disliked.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Oden is Oda’s ideal self, who everyone must worship and love…

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this is the opposite of how the story portrayed him. oden was a strong, influential man who had a choice between being a true hero to his people or following his dreams, and he chose his dreams and abandoned his family and friends. the whole theme of duty vs desire and how this may have helped Roger, but it actually harmed Wano was a big part of it. Oden danced and humiliated himself to try to keep his people alive because he knew what a failure he had been by leaving. Oden was a human who was larger-than-life, not an angel. He objectively failed and made mistakes and abandoned his people.

Oden is worshipped only by a person who never met him. His friends and followers understand he's a human being who fucked up, Yamato doesn't.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

this is the opposite of how the story portrayed him. oden was a strong, influential man who had a choice between being a true hero to his people or following his dreams, and he chose his dreams and abandoned his family and friends. the whole theme of duty vs desire and how this may have helped Roger, but it actually harmed Wano was a big part of it. Oden danced and humiliated himself to try to keep his people alive because he knew what a failure he had been by leaving. Oden was a human who was larger-than-life, not an angel. He objectively failed and made mistakes and abandoned his people.

Oden is worshipped only by a person who never met him. His friends and followers understand he's a human being who fucked up, Yamato doesn't.

Yea Oden was an assclown