Powers & Abilities I hate how CoC is being handled

Shisui

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#22
Yh it makes no sense to give the future wss and the daughter of the wsc coc but Don Pinhead and Mama's boy can walk around with one. Do you ppl even read what you type sometimes??

I dno how many times this has to be said. The SH is a parallel of the Roger Pirates. Roger, Ray and Oden all have it. Makes perfect sense for Luffy, Zoro and Yamato to have it too.
 
#27
Yh it makes no sense to give the future wss and the daughter of the wsc coc but Don Pinhead and Mama's boy can walk around with one. Do you ppl even read what you type sometimes??
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fax man i am in the same line if thought of its "rarity"

now that zoro has it it honestly seems like you can make a case for some others too

now the question is does the statement "OMG LUFFY WITH THE PK CREW WWAAAOW" really help settle the edgy feeling of "ahh this doesn't feel aight"

idk.. I'm just swallowing it all and acknowledging it
Idk, I think it was fairly obvious that Zoro would get it at some point, at the very least he is a pretty clear archetype for someone with CoC based on how it has been described by various people in the series

Yamato having it is meh but I guess it just reinforces the idea that it is also hereditary, like w/ Katakuri, Ace, etc. Their parents have/had it

Zoro using adv CoC despite having no control or awareness of base CoC was a major kick in the teeth and just proved Zoro needed a massive boost to get to YC1 level and how broken Kozaburo's masterpiece Enma truly is.
I'm sorry man but this just comes off as incredibly salty :kayneshrug:
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#28
He’s top 20 an barely has over 100 panels. Think about that(really), the characters u bought up to justify him unpopular ain’t fair comparison.
Someone else tied Haohshoku to popularity, and you tie popularity to usage. So either Oda uses Law more and it makes Law more popular, or Law is more popular so Oda uses him more. But then Kid has Haohshoku and Law doesn't.

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#29
Idk, I think it was fairly obvious that Zoro would get it at some point, at the very least he is a pretty clear archetype for someone with CoC based on how it has been described by various people in the series

Yamato having it is meh but I guess it just reinforces the idea that it is also hereditary, like w/ Katakuri, Ace, etc. Their parents have/had it
i always wanted zoro to have his own thing.. a conquerer without Coc.. sounds fancy innt? yes ofc it wouldn't take his disposition of a Conquerer defo but just saying oda could have gone with a different route as a plausible option..and whatever he chose he then could pertain it to Zoro's legacy and his ancestor..

I'm not saying i completely despise the idea of Zoro or anyone else having Coc.. but yea alot of things point towards heredity
 
#30
Yamato having it is meh but I guess it just reinforces the idea that it is also hereditary, like w/ Katakuri, Ace, etc. Their parents have/had it
Not only does Rayleigh never say this, but mathematically it doesn't hold up at all:

Luffy - Dragon and Garp unconfirmed
Hancock - two sisters don't have it
Chinjao - two grandsons don't have it
Doflamingo - parents and brother didn't have it
Linlin - parents didn't have it. 85 children, only one confirmed conqueror
Oden - father didn't, daughter doesn't
 
#31
i always wanted zoro to have his own thing.. a conquerer without Coc.. sounds fancy innt? yes ofc it wouldn't take his disposition of a Conquerer defo but just saying oda could have gone with a different route as a plausible option..and whatever he chose he then could pertain it to Zoro's legacy and his ancestor..

I'm not saying i completely despise the idea of Zoro or anyone else having Coc.. but yea alot of things point towards heredity
Yeah I guess Oda just ran out of creative ideas for PU's :kayneshrug:
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Not only does Rayleigh never say this, but mathematically it doesn't hold up at all:

Luffy - Dragon and Garp unconfirmed
Hancock - two sisters don't have it
Chinjao - two grandsons don't have it
Doflamingo - parents and brother didn't have it
Linlin - parents didn't have it. 85 children, only one confirmed conqueror
Oden - father didn't, daughter doesn't
It is 1 out of million though, something can be hereditary without being dominant

Almost all of BM's children have different fathers, if it is a recessive gene then that makes sense
 
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#32
Kaido was surprised that Yamato even had it. Meaning it is not genetic and just because you hve it doesn’t mean your child will have it
 
#33
Yeah I guess Oda just ran out of creative ideas for PU's
that sounds cliche but rather amusing due to it.

the worst part is i can't see any other character with that can fit the requirement of what i wanted, as in cold, elegant with the words and the sword styles plus ambition and fortitude ridden legacy.
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anyone can be a Conqueror but none seem to be like Roronoa zoro
 
#34
Zoro using adv CoC despite having no control or awareness of base CoC was a major kick in the teeth and just proved Zoro needed a massive boost to get to YC1 level and how broken Kozaburo's masterpiece Enma truly is.
What are you talking about?

Zoro knew about CoC since the beginning of post TS. Zoro obtaining ACoC was better written than Luffy obtaining internal destruction haki. Luffy didn't even know that was a thing nor was he able to use flowing before. At least Zoro already knew about flowing and was very skilled at flowing his CoA haki. All he did was apply that flowing skills to another type of haki.

Rooftop Zoro was already on YC1. He was stronger than any of the other rooftop SN at the time. He needed ACoC to hurt King because King's durability/defense is that strong. Having the power to hurt and cause significant damage to a Yonko (Kaido) doesn't mean you have the power to hurt King. But of course you don't want to acknowledge that because that means current Law and Kid may not have enough power to hurt King.

Enma didn't give him anything. That has been proven time and time again. It was a burden and actually made it harder for him to control his haki.

The only problem is the number people who couldn't believe you need to be a conqueror to be the WSS. It makes perfect sense because the WSS is the king of swordsman.

When we look at all of the characters in the manga we still only have a very small percent of people with CoC/ACoC so it's still a rare power. Just because the manga focus on those characters with that power doesn't make it any less rare.
 
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