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#41
Egghead > Elbaf for me. At least 30 chapters into Egghead we got plenty of matches and events outside.

But apart from Rocks backstory and Imu arrival, Elbaf was pretty slow with the Holy Buns... I would rewatch Egghead again for ex., Elbaf? IDK, depends of Imu showcase these next chapters.
Elbaph gave us - harley text lore ; gaban intro ; loki intro ; rocks intro ; Rocks Flasback ; Imu full reveal etc. Oda really cooked hard in elbaph. Egghead was also good with gorosei demon forms intro being peak for me but elbaph simply had more reveals in general,
 
#42
Elbaph gave us - harley text lore ; gaban intro ; loki intro ; rocks intro ; Rocks Flasback ; Imu full reveal etc. Oda really cooked hard in elbaph. Egghead was also good with gorosei demon forms intro being peak for me but elbaph simply had more reveals in general,
Yeah, Elbaf had more reveals, but 30 chapters into the arc Loki was still chained up, there was no tension or danger whatsoever. Luffy and Zoro hadn't had a decent fight yet. The only interesting Holy Knight was gone, and we were left to deal with the Holy Bums, and the Killingham nightmares were fodders that took up many panels and spaces, waiting to be defeated.

30 chapters with NOTHING but Loki/Gaban/Shamrock reveals, that's like the lenght of Sabaody (or more) and we know how much stuff happened in that arc for example.

By the 30ish chapter in Dressrosa we got Law vs Fuji vs Doflamingo/ Sabo, Batolomeo, the coliseum...


But still, Elbaf had a better intro than Wano.:kata:
 

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#43
Well, I didn't like some pre-TS arcs, like Skypea had its moments, but overall I really disliked how overly long it was. Alabasta was fine though, and W7/EL was peak. Hell, I still remember OP having the shortest epic war arc, and it was great. I hated Wano, but I am loving Elbaph. So yeah, haters gonna hate, but in the end we all still reading the story here 😂
 
#47
This just proves that the only reason why individuals think preTS is much better than post is because of rose tinted glasses and because it's not the weekly arc. Trust me, if we were reading skypiea weekly, it would be treated the same as Elbaf.

Oda is still as brilliant as he always was, and equally as flawed as he always was. The best aspects of his writing are still present, and his negative aspects have literally never changed. His writing quality has literally been a flat line since ch1.

Every arc is a different remix of Arlong Park.

Oda has used the same gags and the same plot devices since 1997.

So in my opinion, it is ridiculous to say OP used to be a 9.5/10 and now it's a 3/10 shell of itself. If you think it's a 3/10 now, that's because it always was. I urge anyone to reread older arcs. NOTHINGS CHANGED!
 
#48
This just proves that the only reason why individuals think preTS is much better than post is because of rose tinted glasses and because it's not the weekly arc. Trust me, if we were reading skypiea weekly, it would be treated the same as Elbaf.

Oda is still as brilliant as he always was, and equally as flawed as he always was. The best aspects of his writing are still present, and his negative aspects have literally never changed. His writing quality has literally been a flat line since ch1.

Every arc is a different remix of Arlong Park.

Oda has used the same gags and the same plot devices since 1997.

So in my opinion, it is ridiculous to say OP used to be a 9.5/10 and now it's a 3/10 shell of itself. If you think it's a 3/10 now, that's because it always was. I urge anyone to reread older arcs. NOTHINGS CHANGED!
No

oda has demonstrably gotten worse in both story and art
 
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