General & Others I thought when Kaido turned hybrid it was going to one shot city, what happened?

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And ya'll thought Katakuri was special. He just had the unfortunate ability to land more attacks than your average foe. Anyone who comes across end of arc Luffy will suffer from their attack power looking like a steaming pile of shit.

This is why I've always been of the mindset to not use EOA Luffy on roids as the barometer for an enemy's attack power. Look at how much damage an attack is doing "initially", that's the real takeaway, it's not always about getting KOd when it comes to this character. Luffy refuses to fall, is the attack overwhelming Luffy/how is Luffy reacting to the incoming attacks? That's the question you should be asking when analyzing a Luffy fight. Context is always going to be key, we now know boro breath is a trash tier attack since Luffy decided it was too weak to even brother dodging, but thunder bagua is still one of the hardest hitting attacks to date.
 
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Kaido one shots G4 luffy.
Me: Woah how can they even survive Kaido for 30 secs, in main war.
Oda: :cr7:
Kaido can STILL one shot Luffy if he could land "Thunder Bagua". How has that changed? But if Luffy is calm/reacting properly, he can't land it.

I said since 923, that Kaido v. Luffy Round 1 was just stupid fake hype. That attack should have never landed on Luffy. An opponent just casually landing his signature attack cleanly from the get go is plot stupidity. Imagine if Akainu could land his Hellhound on Whitebeard since second 1.
 
  • Kaido lifted Onigashima in Base.
  • Marco can heal in Base.
Mythical Zoans seem to retain access to their DF abilities in Base.
These are abilities.........dura is different......we don't see lucci using claws in base which is a physical ability...........dura is a body ability.........
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Where do you think the blood on Zoro's face is coming from?



There was already blood If I am not mistaken :seriously:........
 

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And ya'll thought Katakuri was special. He just had the unfortunate ability to land more attacks than your average foe. Anyone who comes across end of arc Luffy will suffer from their attack power looking like a steaming pile of shit.

This is why I've always been of the mindset to not use EOA Luffy on roids as the barometer for an enemy's attack power. Look at how much damage an attack is doing "initially", that's the real takeaway, it's not always about getting KOd when it comes to this character. Luffy refuses to fall, is the attack overwhelming Luffy/how is Luffy reacting to the incoming attacks? That's the question you should be asking when analyzing a Luffy fight. Context is always going to be key, we now know boro breath is a trash tier attack since Luffy decided it was too weak to even brother dodging, but thunder bagua is still one of the hardest hitting attacks to date.
How would you square this with the Supernova tanking Thunder Bagua (if it's revealed they did, Kaido has landed attacks on them since they're bleeding, and they are still standing).


How does this make sense?
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lucci using claws in base which is a physical ability
Lucci is not a Mythical Zoan.

dura is a body ability.........
Luffy referenced Kaido's "scales" as the reason for his durability.

There was already blood If I am not mistaken :seriously:........
You are mistaken. Zoro wasn't bleeding in Chapter 1003.

 
Lucci is not a Mythical Zoan.


Luffy referenced Kaido's "scales" as the reason for his durability.


You are mistaken. Zoro wasn't bleeding in Chapter 1003.

So kaido has scales in his base form?........no..........luffy was referring to dragon kaido most likely................there are lots of way zoro can get bloodied.........both kaido/BM have elemental attacks ............BM has ikkoku..............and I don't mind club attcks too.............but unless I see on panel zoro has not tanked divine thunder yet..........thats all..........claiming otherwise has no evidence of such were it can be caused by lots of things.............
 
Bruh. Look at everything kaido has taken. It's all down to his fruit. He ain't using haki to block anything.
Even ryou attacks that hurt him aren't enough unless they TOP TIER AP RYOU attacks

Anyone eat that fruit will be unbelievable strong.
nah
this is wrong

the hardness of kaidu is not releated to his DF
cuz he remembered rocks when luffy made him bleed (while he ate that DF at the day of rocks defeat )
also yamato has some hardness

this is about his hardness
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the DF we dont know to how much kaido developed his DF
so its wrong to say give anyone kaido DF and he will be strong nah
 
You have missed the panel in Chapter 1001 where Kaido tells Big Mom :-"Stand back Linlin. I want to see how strong these brats are".
to which Big Mom replied :-"Playing with your food again huh?".

If Yonkos went full offensive then Kaido would have used thunder bagua on all SNs so far & not just on Luffy , he would have used Awakening etc as well. But so far none. Yonkos are fighting but haven't gone full offensive for now.
 
You missed the end of that chapter where Kaido and BM tells the SNs they will now kill them and take everything they have
I didn't .

What you are mentioning is simply the end goal of the 2 yonkos which is to kill them & take everything they have.

But they stated previously themselves that they are going to play around for a while to see how strong these brats are.
^^ this doesn't change the end goal which you just stated . ^^ this only implies that the 2 yonkos are willing to reach that end goal without any rush. Rather after having played around with their food & having seen what the 5 SNs are capable of , after that going out all offensive to reach that end goal.
 

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nah
this is wrong

the hardness of kaidu is not releated to his DF
cuz he remembered rocks when luffy made him bleed (while he ate that DF at the day of rocks defeat )
also yamato has some hardness

this is about his hardness
___
the DF we dont know to how much kaido developed his DF
so its wrong to say give anyone kaido DF and he will be strong nah
Lmfao no
You think rookie kaido did anything to prime Rox ?
Rox most likely beat the shit out of him so badly to the point where even when he got much stronger he still respects his strength
 
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