General & Others I thought when Kaido turned hybrid it was going to one shot city, what happened?

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
:suresure: You know what I mean lol............after wano ends don't cry lol:cheers:
we will cry about the kaido death:gokulaugh::gokulaugh::gokulaugh:
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Dude I don't have any thing shaking lol..........kaido one shoted luffy+WSC+WSP from killer +WSM from zoro + WSM from oda in sbs lol:suresure::suresure::suresure:

You :suresure:
one shoted zoro?:milaugh::milaugh::milaugh: what is this laido piece:suresure::suresure::suresure:
 
What happened is that Oda put himself in a corner he doesn't know how to get out of; and he did so when he had base Kaido one-shotting gear fourth Luffy after taking no damage. Now we jump to the current situation and nothing makes any sense: not only one emperor but two are facing the group, they all are suddenly able to hurt him (including the Scabbards) to a point of constant screaming on his part, and even in hybrid he hasn't been capable of one-shotting any of them (and Luffy has been exhausted for minutes!). If this doesn't sound inconsistent enough, Oda makes sure to blurry things even more by showing that he indeed can perform his thunder bagua so fast that a user of future sight barely dodges it. And let's not forget about Big Mom, who has done next to nothing even though her first showing of strength consisted on creating from the comfort of her room a storm strong enough to wipe armies out.

You guys can try to analyze this from a power level perspective all you want, but it's futile: the only reason why these guys are surviving that situation is because Oda wants them to do so for the "new versus old era" plot sake; and I wouldn't even be surprised if he just came up with this whole scenario while writing Wano already. I mean, you have too much faith on a guy who explicitly stated to improvise things on a daily basis and who didn't know how Kaido would be defeated —and I doubt he knows how to handle these characters even now.

A the end of the day, what we're seeing makes no sense and is a very clumsy management of the situation. Oda should have never made Luffy be one-shotted by Kaido and we're now seeing the consequences of his miscalculations and improvisations.
Luffy no ryuo - cannot hurt Kaido
Luffy not calm - gets hit cleanly by Kaido
Luffy with ryuo - can hurt Kaido
Luffy calm - can dodge (barely) Kaido's attack

There is no miscalculation or inconsistency.
 
What happened is that Oda put himself in a corner he doesn't know how to get out of; and he did so when he had base Kaido one-shotting gear fourth Luffy after taking no damage. Now we jump to the current situation and nothing makes any sense: not only one emperor but two are facing the group, they all are suddenly able to hurt him (including the Scabbards) to a point of constant screaming on his part, and even in hybrid he hasn't been capable of one-shotting any of them (and Luffy has been exhausted for minutes!). If this doesn't sound inconsistent enough, Oda makes sure to blurry things even more by showing that he indeed can perform his thunder bagua so fast that a user of future sight barely dodges it. And let's not forget about Big Mom, who has done next to nothing even though her first showing of strength consisted on creating from the comfort of her room a storm strong enough to wipe armies out.

You guys can try to analyze this from a power level perspective all you want, but it's futile: the only reason why these guys are surviving that situation is because Oda wants them to do so for the "new versus old era" plot sake; and I wouldn't even be surprised if he just came up with this whole scenario while writing Wano already. I mean, you have too much faith on a guy who explicitly stated to improvise things on a daily basis and who didn't know how Kaido would be defeated —and I doubt he knows how to handle these characters even now.

A the end of the day, what we're seeing makes no sense and is a very clumsy management of the situation. Oda should have never made Luffy be one-shotted by Kaido and we're now seeing the consequences of his miscalculations and improvisations.
This!
You can’t blame us for expecting the sn to be one shotted by Kaido, because Oda set those expectations for us
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
Zoron is out of steam huff huff
next chapter when he will stop alone kaido
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What I said has nothing to do with zoro.......and what are you saying? that zoro tanks thunder bagua? no lol
10 minutes to fight and kaido didn't use his main attack? of course he thanks that attack and stronger it
 
next chapter when he will stop alone kaido
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10 minutes to fight and kaido didn't use his main attack? of course he thanks that attack and stronger it
Nah.........club attack may be...........elemental attacks are also there plus BM is also attacking........Divine thunder? Nah..............and reverse is also true......zoro must have used powerful attacks too and kaido doesn't seemed cut yet......so he failed to cut hybrid kaido as of now...........
 
Luffy no ryuo - cannot hurt Kaido
Luffy not calm - gets hit cleanly by Kaido
Luffy with ryuo - can hurt Kaido
Luffy calm - can dodge (barely) Kaido's attack

There is no miscalculation or inconsistency.
Does Law have Ryou and Fs?
Does Zoro have Fs?
Does Kid have Ryou and Fs?
Does Killer have Ryou and Fs?
 

Roronoa-sama

Magic Sword, Magic Swordsman, and Can Cut Anything
Nah.........club attack may be...........elemental attacks are also there plus BM is also attacking........Divine thunder? Nah..............and reverse is also true......zoro must have used powerful attacks too and kaido doesn't seemed cut yet......so he failed to cut hybrid kaido as of now...........
zoro isn't use shinsonson, 1080 or sanzai sekai (he is the main character and we didn't see that's attack with enma)
 
Does Law have Ryou and Fs?
Does Zoro have Fs?
Does Kid have Ryou and Fs?
Does Killer have Ryou and Fs?
Why do they need Fs?
The comparison is made between a base Luffy using Future Sight and Kaido's Thunder Bagua.
Why do the other fighters need to be limited to base Luffy's speed?
Luffy is a fighter who grows thanks to transformations, it only makes sense if his peers (who don't have transformations the same way he does) were better than his base form.
Why do they need Future Sight to be able to dodge Kaido's attacks? Does regular speed not suffice?

Why do they need Ryuo? Didn't we get explained that as long as they can perform internal destruction in whichever way they find, they can damage him? Is bypassing Kaido's defenses PIS?
 
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