General & Others If admirals are awakened...

[Sir Yasheen]

Because there’s no reason to. The yonko protect the lode poneglyphs. Attacking one yonko will cause the others to gain influence and disrupt the balance of powers making it more likely for someone to claim the one piece.

The yonko system is good for the world government they wouldn’t want it disturbed

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

And if kizaru is expected to give luffy a HARD time (some even say luffy will get wrecked) and if they are able to no diff YC1s like a couple people say, how come they never even dared to assault any yonko?

They only managed to lure an old walking corpse of a legend into their headquarters and even there the WG shat their pants and has assembled it's most powerful military might.

How come law+kid(+plot armor) level meme and WCI was never attacked by the marines?
I mean. Simply send 2 og admirals there, one low diffs meme, one no diffs all the commanders at once, right?

You can’t just send 2 Admirals since the Yonko have their crews to back them up. Say you send Kizaru and GB to Wano.

GB would have to fight 30K Beast Pirates just to give Kizaru a shot to 1v1 Kaidou, which he would still loose even if he can push Kaidou to high or extreme diff.

 

[Durableguy]

You can’t just send 2 Admirals since the Yonko have their crews to back them up. Say you send Kizaru and GB to Wano.

GB would have to fight 30K Beast Pirates just to give Kizaru a shot to 1v1 Kaidou, which he would still loose even if he can push Kaidou to high or extreme diff.

That's the point of the warlords though.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You can’t just send 2 Admirals since the Yonko have their crews to back them up. Say you send Kizaru and GB to Wano.

GB would have to fight 30K Beast Pirates just to give Kizaru a shot to 1v1 Kaidou, which he would still loose even if he can push Kaidou to high or extreme diff.

Ryo negged the two strongest members of Kaidos crew plus a few hundred fodder… I don’t think adding more fodder would change that at all.

 

[zorovsanji]

Kizaru is that guy. He's not afraid of kaido +bm. He's the only one trolling wb.

Coz Zoro opponents are stronger than their captains.

 

[King7]

(some even say luffy will get wrecked)

A take like that or "Kizaru low diffs Luffy" is not to be taken seriously.

and if they are able to no diff YC1s like a couple people say, how come they never even dared to assault any yonko?

Admirals neg diffing YC1s is based on how Ryokugyu treated King + Queen.
Though King + Queen maybe had not fully recovered, it's still 2 of them at the same time.
And Ryokugyu didn't seem to have gone all out on them.

There may be other reasons/basis to think Admirals can no diff YC1s though :
2. the scene of Akainu as a lone Admiral approaching 10 pre skip BBPs ( and the BBPs ran away )
3. and maybe Kuzan was portrayed as a threat also to BBP in 1081, with BB nervously apologizing to him.

4. seems Garp would wreck Shiryu based on Hachinosu
----- while Kuzan almost in base could match Garp in fist fighting

----- if there's an argument that it's not sure/certain Kuzan could sense Shiryu when Shiryu is invisible ; Kuzan is extremely close to Kizaru

Let's see if that argument would continue to exist after Egghead ;
> in his Vivrecard/Databook, it was stated that good CoO is required to even keep up with Kizaru ( or maybe "good enough" or even "high level" ? ).

> it's really possible Kizaru could end up being invisible with high speed movements - Sanji could go invisible because of his high speed movements
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1034-page-10.html

How come law+kid(+plot armor) level meme and WCI was never attacked by the marines?
I mean. Simply send 2 og admirals there, one low diffs meme, one no diffs all the commanders at once, right?

The Admirals shouldn't be rated that high/they shouldn't be said to be able to stomp the BMPs until they show Awakenings.

But it can't be ruled out the possibility that 2 Admirals will be able to stomp BMPs with Awakenings :

1. Akainu's Awakening seems to be Volcanoes

Spoiler

- saying they're not from Akainu is just as stupid as saying the ice mountains aren't from Aokiji
- fits so much with Logias' and middle gen Admirals' theme of nature
> Logia also literally means "nature system"
> volcanoes are the only magma producers of nature, at least afaik

- would live up to the hype that magu-magu has one of the greatest attack power among dfs ( volcanoes will give Akainu insane firepower )
- fits so much with Akainu's already existing attack names
> Dai Funka means "great eruption" - volcanoes erupt

Spoiler

> Ryusei Kazan means "meteor volcano"

Spoiler

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2. Awakened Kuzan matched Awakened Akainu in PH for days, whatever Kuzan's Awakening is
And if you just look at how PH is split evenly/50-50 between Ice and Magma, it just portrays Hie and Magu as equals.

3. Just some ideas for Kizaru's Awakening :
----- maybe his strongest awakening attack will be similar to Uranus' lasers on Lulusia, though maybe not as strong as the ancient weapon's

----- another idea, his awakening is to create a big area where the light is so intense/bright, that his opponent can't see like Hawkins

Spoiler

Within this big area he can also :
> blend in with the intense light
> zap/move around everywhere
> and attack with stronger lasers, or whatever he wants ( kicks/light sword )

I'm liking them. Maybe 2 strange oddities in Enies Lobby are the result of Pika Awakening :
----- it is never night time in EL ( sun/light always shines there )
----- that giant hole below the island
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Enies_Lobby

These 2 things could be the result of Pika Awakening :
----- Sun/light permanently being there would just be like Ice and Magma permanently being in PH

----- that giant hole could be the result of Pika's strongest awakened attack - the attack could be like Uranus' lasers on Lulusia

Spoiler

Vaporized everything in the way and left a permanent giant hole
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Logia Awakenings are bound to be strong either way :
----- seems Oda has consistently held Logias as the strongest DFs since Alabasta at least ; in SBS 30 - after ch 280, he said Logias "definitely stands out on a whole other lvl compared to other fruits"
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_30?so=search

----- in SBS 58 maybe he implied Gura ( one of the strongest Paramecias ) as "not any weaker than the Logias"
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_58?so=search

----- "a fruit of the Logia family, the most powerful of all devil fruits"

Spoiler

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----- Crocodile's Logia is one of the reasons for his very high 2B bounty

Spoiler

----- Vegapunk couldn't reproduce Logias despite having tried everything he could think of, while he could reproduce Zoans and Paramecias

Spoiler

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----- Kuzan and Akainu themselves chose PH for their dueling place

Spoiler

Why didn't they just fight in MF, which was their main places of work ?
Because of how powerful their Awakenings are.

 

[Malio]

And if kizaru is expected to give luffy a HARD time (some even say luffy will get wrecked) and if they are able to no diff YC1s like a couple people say, how come they never even dared to assault any yonko?

They only managed to lure an old walking corpse of a legend into their headquarters and even there the WG shat their pants and has assembled it's most powerful military might.

How come law+kid(+plot armor) level meme and WCI was never attacked by the marines?
I mean. Simply send 2 og admirals there, one low diffs meme, one no diffs all the commanders at once, right?

Behind all that bravado and WG backing, the admirals are actually pussies.

You'd never catch an admiral fighting a powerful opponent who's not sick, already on their last legs etc.

Underhanded tactics and waiting for someone else to weaken the opponent and then saying some nonsense like "I'll deal with them" or "let me head out".

Where's the admiral to attack sick whitebeard out on the seas?
Where's the admiral to go after Kaido in wano?
Where's the admiral attacking shanks?
Hell Where's the admiral going after BM?

Overhyped devil fruit merchants

 

[Thaidakar]

A take like that or "Kizaru low diffs Luffy" is not to be taken seriously.


Admirals neg diffing YC1s is based on how Ryokugyu treated King + Queen.
Though King + Queen maybe had not fully recovered, it's still 2 of them at the same time.
And Ryokugyu didn't seem to have gone all out on them.

There may be other reasons/basis to think Admirals can no diff YC1s though :
2. the scene of Akainu as a lone Admiral approaching 10 pre skip BBPs ( and the BBPs ran away )
3. and maybe Kuzan was portrayed as a threat also to BBP in 1081, with BB nervously apologizing to him.

4. seems Garp would wreck Shiryu based on Hachinosu
----- while Kuzan almost in base could match Garp in fist fighting

----- if there's an argument that it's not sure/certain Kuzan could sense Shiryu when Shiryu is invisible ; Kuzan is extremely close to Kizaru

Let's see if that argument would continue to exist after Egghead ;
> in his Vivrecard/Databook, it was stated that good CoO is required to even keep up with Kizaru ( or maybe "good enough" or even "high level" ? ).

> it's really possible Kizaru could end up being invisible with high speed movements - Sanji could go invisible because of his high speed movements
https://mangasee123.com/read-online/One-Piece-chapter-1034-page-10.html


The Admirals shouldn't be rated that high/they shouldn't be said to be able to stomp the BMPs until they show Awakenings.

But it can't be ruled out the possibility that 2 Admirals will be able to stomp BMPs with Awakenings :

1. Akainu's Awakening seems to be Volcanoes

Spoiler

- saying they're not from Akainu is just as stupid as saying the ice mountains aren't from Aokiji
- fits so much with Logias' and middle gen Admirals' theme of nature
> Logia also literally means "nature system"
> volcanoes are the only magma producers of nature, at least afaik

- would live up to the hype that magu-magu has one of the greatest attack power among dfs ( volcanoes will give Akainu insane firepower )
- fits so much with Akainu's already existing attack names
> Dai Funka means "great eruption" - volcanoes erupt

Spoiler

> Ryusei Kazan means "meteor volcano"

Spoiler

--------------------------------------------------------------------

2. Awakened Kuzan matched Awakened Akainu in PH for days, whatever Kuzan's Awakening is
And if you just look at how PH is split evenly/50-50 between Ice and Magma, it just portrays Hie and Magu as equals.

3. Just some ideas for Kizaru's Awakening :
----- maybe his strongest awakening attack will be similar to Uranus' lasers on Lulusia, though maybe not as strong as the ancient weapon's

----- another idea, his awakening is to create a big area where the light is so intense/bright, that his opponent can't see like Hawkins

Spoiler

Within this big area he can also :
> blend in with the intense light
> zap/move around everywhere
> and attack with stronger lasers, or whatever he wants ( kicks/light sword )

I'm liking them. Maybe 2 strange oddities in Enies Lobby are the result of Pika Awakening :
----- it is never night time in EL ( sun/light always shines there )
----- that giant hole below the island
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Enies_Lobby

These 2 things could be the result of Pika Awakening :
----- Sun/light permanently being there would just be like Ice and Magma permanently being in PH

----- that giant hole could be the result of Pika's strongest awakened attack - the attack could be like Uranus' lasers on Lulusia

Spoiler

Vaporized everything in the way and left a permanent giant hole
----------------------------------------------------------------

Logia Awakenings are bound to be strong either way :
----- seems Oda has consistently held Logias as the strongest DFs since Alabasta at least ; in SBS 30 - after ch 280, he said Logias "definitely stands out on a whole other lvl compared to other fruits"
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_30?so=search

----- in SBS 58 maybe he implied Gura ( one of the strongest Paramecias ) as "not any weaker than the Logias"
https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/SBS_Volume_58?so=search

----- "a fruit of the Logia family, the most powerful of all devil fruits"

Spoiler

anonymous image hosting

----- Crocodile's Logia is one of the reasons for his very high 2B bounty

Spoiler

----- Vegapunk couldn't reproduce Logias despite having tried everything he could think of, while he could reproduce Zoans and Paramecias

Spoiler

upload image free

----- Kuzan and Akainu themselves chose PH for their dueling place

Spoiler

Why didn't they just fight in MF, which was their main places of work ?
Because of how powerful their Awakenings are.

Nice post :cheers:

 

[Dragon777]

Behind all that bravado and WG backing, the admirals are actually pussies.

You'd never catch an admiral fighting a powerful opponent who's not sick, already on their last legs etc.

Underhanded tactics and waiting for someone else to weaken the opponent and then saying some nonsense like "I'll deal with them" or "let me head out".

Where's the admiral to attack sick whitebeard out on the seas?
Where's the admiral to go after Kaido in wano?
Where's the admiral attacking shanks?
Hell Where's the admiral going after BM?

Overhyped devil fruit merchants

What a gigantic cope lol.

Funny thing is that most of "reasons" have already been proven totally wrong, but who cares lol

 

[Malio]

What a gigantic cope lol.

Funny thing is that most of "reasons" have already been proven totally wrong, but who cares lol

What a gigantic cope

 

[Dragon777]

What a gigantic cope

Pretty much all the message.

 

[Durableguy]

they have never been proven wrong lol.

 

[Dragon777]

they have never been proven wrong lol.

Except when they all did, yeah, never lol.

 

[Malio]

Pretty much all the message.

You ain't gotta tell me. I already know you're coping

 

[Durableguy]

Except when they all did, yeah, never lol.

Headcanon =/= proof.

 

[Dragon777]

Headcanon =/= proof.

Totally agree.

Facts =/ imagination.

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You ain't gotta tell me. I already know you're coping

I am sorry for you.

The last few chapter had to be very hard to deal with lol.

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Friendly reminder that the world government happily did business with Kaido and even sacrificed a top agent in a bid to ensure Kaido won his battle.

The Navy and the Yonko are sworn enemies, but the Navy is subservient to the World Government who sees potential profit within the current frame work.

 

[Herrera95]

Kizaru volunteer but Akainu was too worried about Kin'emon.

 

[Monkey D Monkey]

Ryo negged the two strongest members of Kaidos crew plus a few hundred fodder… I don’t think adding more fodder would change that at all.

It’s not just adding more Fodder it’s adding Jack, F6, Numbers, Gifters, Appo, Hawkins, Oniwabanshu, and 29K Fodder. I can’t see that not making a difference.

 

[CensoredbyWG]

They feared Roger’s blood and the fact that Whitebeard was preparing him for the pirate throne.

WB took him under his wing, but never taught him advanced haki, advanced conquerors or even helped him to awaken his fruit.

Worse teacher in the series by far.

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Yonko are controlled opposition, they are the ones preventing new generation from getting to OP.