General & Others If an admiral can solo a Yonko crew, One Piece is meaningless

[IsaziSempi]

obviously there is a great force that brought the world to it knees. their were people who stood against this force but couldnt stop it. the decendants ir D's are born from these people and a good amount of them are pirates.

the Ds fell to overpower that force but raise in power over most people. havung a good crew is neccessary look how ma y times Usopp has saved the crew. the Yonkou are unbeatable but their crews are not. any individual yonkou and his crew can almost destroy the marines + wg but they fall short. Because after all they're human. Luffy will be the one to finally topple that power.

 

[PrinceKun]

If you send 3 admirals after one Yonko crew then who’s defending HQ from the other 3 Yonko?

So many people praise OP’s world building yet also don’t understand it apparently.

 

[Ven437]

An Admiral cannot solo a Yonko crew. Numbers, no matter what powerscalers like to say or fantasize about, matter in the long run and no one except the Yonkos themselves have been stated or proven to be capable of soloing a fresh Yonko crew.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

An Admiral cannot solo a Yonko crew. Numbers, no matter what powerscalers like to say or fantasize about, matter in the long run and no one except the Yonkos themselves have been stated or proven to be capable of soloing a fresh Yonko crew.

No one except the Yonko themselves have been indicated to be capable of handling an admiral.

 

[Ven437]

No one except the Yonko themselves have been indicated to be capable of handling an admiral.

You didn't counter what I said. Numbers matter in the long run. A single Admiral has neither feats nor implication of soloing a whole Yonko crew, for which you seem to underestimate its sheer quantity of numbers.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

You didn't counter what I said. Numbers matter in the long run. A single Admiral has neither feats nor implication of soloing a whole Yonko crew, for which you seem to underestimate its sheer quantity of numbers.

Every admiral has shown:
- AOE to counter large groups of enemies
- Attack potency that can completely fold high tier characters if they get tagged
(well Fujitora is the only one that hasn’t, but let’s be real he very likely holds back more than the other admirals)
- Reaction speed feats that easily surpass those of commanders

Honestly those 3 things on their own, AOE + potency + reaction speed is all it takes to prove that groups of mid and high tier characters shouldn’t be able to hold out against an admiral for a prolonged period of time.

 

[Ven437]

Every admiral has shown:
- AOE to counter large groups of enemies
- Attack potency that can completely fold high tier characters if they get tagged
(well Fujitora is the only one that hasn’t, but let’s be real he very likely holds back more than the other admirals)
- Reaction speed feats that easily surpass those of commanders

Honestly those 3 things on their own, AOE + potency + reaction speed is all it takes to prove that groups of mid and high tier characters shouldn’t be able to hold out against an admiral for a prolonged period of time.

-And that requires stamina. Some Yonko fleets literally mount to 40k+ based on statements about its crew size, and each ship on the sea carries probably no more than 100-200 members.

-Fighting a whole crew =/= a gauntlet. They are not going to be lining up to take a shot at the Admiral. They will coordinate to attack and potentially wear out/exhaust the Admiral. Don't confuse battledome logic with actual OP manga narrative.

-Marco literally tagged Kizaru, a light man. Katakuri has FS and is Snakeman-level fast, faster than anything speed Fujitora has shown. King, hypothetically, is fast. Except for King, none of the Admirals' reactions are so far above that they will tag YC1s as easily just based on portrayal/feats alone.

OP has made it painstakingly clear, from early Enies Lobby, to MF, to even the disbandment of the Shichibukai, that fleet numbers can and do matter. A single Admiral does not have the portrayal of taking out a whole Yonko crew (and it would go against Oda's entire story setting).

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

-And that requires stamina. Some Yonko fleets literally mount to 40k+ based on statements about its crew size, and each ship on the sea carries probably no more than 100-200 members.

-Fighting a whole crew =/= a gauntlet. They are not going to be lining up to take a shot at the Admiral. They will coordinate to attack and potentially wear out/exhaust the Admiral. Don't confuse battledome logic with actual OP manga narrative.

-Marco literally tagged Kizaru, a light man. Katakuri has FS and is Snakeman-level fast, faster than anything speed Fujitora has shown. King, hypothetically, is fast. Except for King, none of the Admirals' reactions are so far above that they will tag YC1s as easily just based on portrayal/feats alone.

OP has made it painstakingly clear, from early Enies Lobby, to MF, to even the disbandment of the Shichibukai, that fleet numbers can and do matter. A single Admiral does not have the portrayal of taking out a whole Yonko crew (and it would go against Oda's entire story setting).

The grand fleet consisting of 5000 members ran away from Fujitora by himself.

Literally one or two large scale AOE attack from a Yonko and everyone other than the top commanders and veterans is down and out.

 

[The White Crane]

are dumb or what what happened to luffy or you expect an admiral to defeat luffy and the sh included

At the moment, yes.

 

[Tai long]

At the moment, yes.

Okay

 

[Ven437]

The grand fleet consisting of 5000 members ran away from Fujitora by himself.

Literally one or two large scale AOE attack from a Yonko and everyone other than the top commanders and veterans is down and out.

Comparing the Grand Fleet to a wholeass Yonko crew? What is 5000 men who barely know each other to a whole Yonko crew that is organized under several leaders that can work in cooperation?

Jack and his men didn't run away from Fujitora and his fleet. Sank a few ships nonetheless despite there being an Admiral and a former FA. Don't compare the cowardice of a newly formed motley crew to a primed geared established Yonko crew.

 

[Finalbeta]

The Wadmirals shall soon be respected more consistently

 

[Erkan12]

If you send 3 admirals after one Yonko crew then who’s defending HQ from the other 3 Yonko?

So many people praise OP’s world building yet also don’t understand it apparently.

Defending from what?

You Ladmiral fanboys act like there is some secret treasure inside of HQ that every Yonko wants to enter.

Yonko are after treasures and Laugh Tale.

No one gives a shit about attacking HQ.

BB wanted to sink it for fun and fought Fleet Admiral, and that's it. He doesn't care anymore.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Defending from what?

You Ladmiral fanboys act like there is some secret treasure inside of HQ that every Yonko wants to enter.

Yonko are after treasures and Laugh Tale.

No one gives a shit about attacking HQ.

BB wanted to sink it for fun and fought Fleet Admiral, and that's it. He doesn't care anymore.

Don’t (at least) two of the Yonko literally have world domination as a goal?

Erkan, I know thinking isn’t your strong point, but whole rules most of the world?

 

[Erkan12]

Don’t (at least) two of the Yonko literally have world domination as a goal?

Erkan, I know thinking isn’t your strong point, but whole rules most of the world?

World domination by having the old HQ building?

Literally they transported HQ to another place after the marineford battle.

Blackbeard pirates took Baltigo, the HQ of Revolutionary army. What happened? Did the Revos lose everything? LOL.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

World domination by having the old HQ building?

Literally they transported HQ to another place after the marineford battle.

Blackbeard pirates took Baltigo, the HQ of Revolutionary army. What happened? Did the Revos lose everything? LOL.

That HQ is literally the main base of the controlling power’s military operations.

You’re telling me the Yonko are stupid? (TBH I don’t really understand what you’re saying, as usual)

 

[Erkan12]

That HQ is literally the main base of the controlling power’s military operations.

You’re telling me the Yonko are stupid? (TBH I don’t really understand what you’re saying, as usual)

They now control the military operations from a different place, Yonko are smart enough to know buildings means nothing. The people inside of the buildings matters.

Which is why they easily change the location of it to G-1.

Do you realize now the Larines HQ is a different place than it was 2 years before?

Revolutionary army lost Baltigo, you think they are weaker now?

Marines weapons and ships that all that matters, which they can transport easily.

You thinking Ladmirals should defend the place from Yonko attacks is just funny. Lets say Yonko took HQ while there was only 1 Ladmiral inside of it.

Then other 3 Ladmirals learns it and attacks HQ after some time, and its still the same result. Yonko still needs to deal with all Admirals. Defending HQ is a funny excuse.

If 4 Yonko can dominate the world by joining forces, then Admirals already joined forces, they should've dominated the world if they were equal 1 Ladmiral = 1 Yonko, but its not.

Kaido literally told Luffy, if they joined them they could conquer the world.

You think 1 Fleet Admiral + 3 Ladmirals =/= Kaido + Big mom + Luffy and co?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Should I read erkan’s last post?

 

[Erkan12]

Should I read erkan’s last post?

 

[Desolate Smaug]

GB didn't beat a Yonko crew
He beat like 1/8 of BP

How's King + Queen + babanuki = full yonko crew?

Add Jack, flyers and numbers + other headliners, GB gets beaten very high diff

Can GreenBull even hurt a fresh King with the twigs tbh. King is ridiculously durable due to his DNA can't see how some vines and regular haki are getting through his skin when he can resist hakified sword slashes to some extent.