General & Others If Kata was here instead of King

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#21
:milaugh:

Katakuri would run through alliance
Capture them with mochi...
None of them can escape mochi stickiness once caught or restrained.

Kaido BM Kata are enough to clap the whole alliance
You don't even need Beast porates or bMP
Katakuri couldn’t do this cleanly with less enemies. You can like him all you want but ya can’t pretend he’s the best in every scenario. Katakuri can’t stop fliers and Katakuri can’t control the masses as effectively as Queen did with his Plagues.
 
#22
Katakuri was shite in the Tea Party....he will do worse here.
Shit ?
Kata one shoted İchiji.King couldn't same thing.
-Katakuri was mentioned as the most dangerous person where Linlin was.
-He alone dealt with the likes of Jinbei,Bege,Pedro,Luffy. King couldn't even react to Izo.
-Katakuri found the truth from the fake Luffys.


Katakuri's tea party performance was pretty good.Unlike King.
 
#23
Shit ?
Kata one shoted İchiji.King couldn't same thing.
We have no idea how he did that.

-Katakuri was mentioned as the most dangerous person where Linlin was.
Thats not doing anything.

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-He alone dealt with the likes of Jinbei,Bege,Pedro,Luffy. King couldn't even react to Izo.
He didnt deal with them, he just evaded all their attacks....since his DF and CoO is suited for evasion. And he pin down a Luffy who wasnt trying to fight.

-Katakuri found the truth from the fake Luffys.
Wow
 
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#24
Katakuri couldn’t do this cleanly with less enemies. You can like him all you want but ya can’t pretend he’s the best in every scenario. Katakuri can’t stop fliers and Katakuri can’t control the masses as effectively as Queen did with his Plagues.
he literally ran through jinbie ,pedro and capone and still stopped Luffy
That's how fast casual katakuri is.

He has awakening, can pop mochi and stop anyone before they know it.

Which manga are you reading?
His awakening would easily cover the whole area

Flying is only a problem for weaklings
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#25
he literally ran through jinbie ,pedro and capone and still stopped Luffy
That's how fast casual katakuri is.

He has awakening, can pop mochi and stop anyone before they know it.

Which manga are you reading?
His awakening would easily cover the whole area

Flying is only a problem for weaklings
He has zero way to stop fliers.

His awakening isn’t even as impressive as Doffy’s who doesn’t have the range to take out the entire floor.

He didn’t take out any of them? They all fought and escaped. The most Kata can do here is replace Jack, he’s insufficient else wise.
 

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#27
Katakuri was shite in the Tea Party....he will do worse here.
He was still Big Mom's best man, Luffy himself felt weaker than him for a great portion of their fight so he wasn't shitty at all in all honesty. Besides, it depends on what's the objective here... Katakuri is a great staller for example, not as efficient as Marco on average, but yes against heavy hitters that can break through Marco's regen unless they are also too fast for FS.
 
#28
  • Couldn't stop Luffy ruining the wedding cake ( granted he gets a pass here, there was not much he could do to prevent it)
  • Couldn’t stop Luffy showing Big meme the portrait
  • Admitted that he couldn't do shit when Big mom started rampaging and that the island will be taken down even though smoothie and other vets were there to help, needed pudding/Sanji to come in for the rescue while Marco was able to stall sane/full power meme.
  • Couldn't prevent Luffy from dragging him into the mirror world despite seeing the future
  • Got whooped so hard by Luffy that he started loving him....after 16 hits or so...
Yet, still more competent than King and Queen from what we have. Queen is ass and annoying on top of that and i still am patient with King. I think he will still impress us.
 
#30
In the same situation as King? Not much diffrence
The reaction would be a lot diffrent tho and he would get wanked to heavens
Look at him not stopping Marco truly a top tier fighter he doesn't even consider Marco a challenge
Look at him trying to kill Momo and ending the rebellion truly the best strategist in the series Sengoku has nothing on him
Etc...
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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#32
In the same situation as King? Not much diffrence
The reaction would be a lot diffrent tho and he would get wanked to heavens
Look at him not stopping Marco truly a top tier fighter he doesn't even consider Marco a challenge
Look at him trying to kill Momo and ending the rebellion truly the best strategist in the series Sengoku has nothing on him
Etc...
:milaugh:
Dead right. Katauri’s only ever failed but is treated like the ideal subordinate for some reason.
 
#33
Katakuri wouldn't don't anything either. Big Mom is there and all she's done is be rejected by the Straw Hats. Her crew has been stopped for making it to the top of the waterfall twice. It doesn't matter who it is it's all about how Oda writes it.

King time is coming so be ready.
Pretty much, look at Marineford and Kizaru not shooting Luffy in the head. Oda just writes himself into corners at times
 

Light D Lamperouge

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#35
Its crazy that even with all that theyre still more useful than king
No, not even remotely.


Kata wouldn't have let sanji and shinobu take momo right in front of him.
Lmfao.
King flung Shinobu into a wall and called her work clumsy. Effectively stopped her. While Queen didn't notice anything

> While Queen is staring like a nincompoop King is already going to get Momo and he uses a random ass attack that knocks out Judge's son, equiped with his daddy's life saving gear


> Katakuri couldn't stop Brook of all people from destroying one of his mother's most prized possessions and the thing that would weaken her


> Couldn't stop Luffy from shoving that broken picture up Big Mom's, Katakuri's mother, fat ass face.
> Katakuri while having all the Big Mom pirates by his side was shitting himself while thinking of how to stop Linlin, and was only relieved after Pudding came up with a plan
> While King in a reverse situation, being alone takes on Linlin who is backed up by her crew, the same crew that was backing up Katakuri, takes them out and calls them measly
> While Katakuri is chided and put in his place by his mother to which he has no other option but only to agree
> King asserts his dominance over the same fat bitch that chides Katakuri and now wants King in her crew and coldheartedly refuses her


All this false significance attributed to Katakuri has to stop. No one gives a fuck about him.

> Morgans didn't and he just lumped him in with his brother Cracker as a mere officer of Linlin's
> Kaido didn't give a fuck and sent Jack to go grab the guy that beat the 'almighty' Katakuri
> Jack didn't give a fuck and went to search for the guy that beat Katakuri without a second thought
> In Udon Queen gave no fucks about Luffy beating Katakuri
> Who's Who gave no fucks about Luffy beating Katakuri and called him a rat, but was eager to go find Yamato so that he'd have a chance to be a calamity


People that are calamities, or are gunning for a calamity position give no fucks about Katakuri or rats that beat him. Kaido the guy that builds his crew based on powers gives no fucks about Katakuri, but has King as his right hand man.


Katakuri is just that insignificant.



King trying was pretty much just as relevant as queen in that moment and all he was doin was making funny faces
Tho in queens defense he actually was useful afterwards
King has been competent and useful throughout the arc.

> Whilst everyone is out of their minds, including King's captain who is sweating buckets, King casually flies over, reminder that King's captain also possesses a devil fruit that enables flight, and takes care of the threat, whilst being cocky about it, calling it a measly ship, completely humiliating an entire Yonko crew and stopping a full-scale war.
> When King's captain is in a pinch about Yamato it is King who has preemptively sought out a solution to the problem, acting like a true right hand man.
> When the people try to free Momo it is King that acts immediately, first flinging Shinobu mercilessly into the building, then playing with Judge's son.

> Put Jack in his place when he needed scolding
> Put Queen in his place when he needed scolding
> Put the F6 in place when they crossed the line
> Took command and displayed proper thinking and authority by telling the F6 what to do



> Is protecting the way to his captain now



King being fodder aint nothin to be ashamed of
King is stronger than Katakuri so if King is fodder Katakuri is even more of a fodder.​
 
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Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
#36
Katakuri is highly overrated, has nothing but his observation haki going for him....He couldnt even knock Luffy uncouncious after beating him for hours. In terms of durability and strenght he is nothing special.
Depends on what's intended for overrated. He is an YC1 which however puts him in a different realm of power than let's say a yonko or admiral. And also he doesn't strike like the strongest YC1 either by hype. Both Beckman and Shiryu are hyped above, the former even portrayed above due the Kizaru matter. The thing is all YC1s lack feats, exception made for the very Katakuri.
 
#37
Depends on what's intended for overrated. He is an YC1 which however puts him in a different realm of power than let's say a yonko or admiral. And also he doesn't strike like the strongest YC1 either by hype. Both Beckman and Shiryu are hyped above, the former even portrayed above due the Kizaru matter. The thing is all YC1s lack feats, exception made for the very Katakuri.
Yep, i mean it like that...people treat him like he is some sort of YC1 tier god thats miles ahead of other YC's. Wich is not realy the case at all.
 
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