Questions & Mysteries If Luffy didnt cockblock Ace

[stealthblack]

Its clear at this point that shanks was in east blue searching for ace to feed him the gomu gomu no.....


So if he did find ace and luffy didnt cockblock him then ace with gomu gomu no mi would have been a better main character then luffy?

 

[soheilhazrat]

No

 

[Afroking]

Then one way or another Ace would have died in East blue and Luffy would eat the fruit in the end. Everything is predetermined. Luffy gaining this fruit is one of these.

 

[Finalbeta]

Where was it stated / implicated Shanks wanted to lend it to Ace? 🤔

 

[Ryuarashi]

As it stands Luffy was destined to get the Nika fruit

For centuries everyone else failed to awaken the fruit

 

[stealthblack]

Where was it stated / implicated Shanks wanted to lend it to Ace? 🤔

Why you think a big shot pirate like him was in east blue after he stole the legendary fruit from WG? Just to recruit yasopp and fuck makino? Rofl


Shanks knew from Roger all info he needed.

 

[vikas]

Soon we will have a donut donut no mi.... But turns out it's Hito Hito no mi Model Ace

 

[Swordtaker]

correct me if im wrong. but isnt it mention, nika fruit choose it's host like it has a mind of its own?

 

[wys]

shanks didn't know that ace was roger's son back then , and when ace visited shanks he didn't tell him he was roger's son shanks figured that out by himself (ace novel)

and also shanks didn't know that garp was luffy's grandfather

 

[Midnight Delight]

shanks didn't know that ace was roger's son back then , and also when ace visited him he didn't tell that shanks figured that out by himself (ace novel)

and also shanks didn't know that garp was luffy's grandfather

Damn, So Shanks only visited for pussy

Meanwhile Yasopp didn't even visit his son

 

[mugiwalaw]

you finally get rid of Zoro from your head, huh?


anyway, no, Ace become MC wouldnt make it any better

 

[wys]

Damn, So Shanks only visited for pussy

Meanwhile Yasopp didn't even visit his son

 

[stealthblack]

shanks didn't know that ace was roger's son back then , and when ace visited shanks he didn't tell him he was roger's son shanks figured that out by himself (ace novel)

and also shanks didn't know that garp was luffy's grandfather

He knew roger had a son and is in east blue. He just didnt knew the name

He also knew roger was wishfull thinking that his son could be Nika.

 

[Colt Buntline]

correct me if im wrong. but isnt it mention, nika fruit choose it's host like it has a mind of its own?

I'm not sure.
But if that's the case, then wouldn't it be denying Luffy's free will?

I mean, in the manga what can be seen is that Luffy chose to eat the devil fruit; It's not like the fruit entered in Luffy's mouth on its own.

So if Oda confirms it's true that the devil fruits choose who will eat them, then Oda will be establishing as a premise that at least the devil fruit users, and possibly the people who interact with them until they eat the devil fruit, are basically pawns whose thoughts and actions are at least influenced, if not totally determined, according to the will of the devil fruits so that they just stay on track to eat the devil fruits.

 

[mugiwalaw]

correct me if im wrong. but isnt it mention, nika fruit choose it's host like it has a mind of its own?

more like the awakening stuff beside that is not really??

 

[wys]

He knew roger had a son and is in east blue. He just didnt knew the name

He also knew roger was wishfull thinking that his son could be Nika.

well shanks spent a year in foosha island , he would've found ace if he was really looking for him

 

[Finalbeta]

Damn, So Shanks only visited for pussy

Meanwhile Yasopp didn't even visit his son

Shanks has always been an easy going Pirate tbh, visiting a weak sea would also parallel him with Mihawk. Not shocked.

 

[Swordtaker]

I'm not sure.
But if that's the case, then wouldn't it be denying Luffy's free will?

I mean, in the manga what can be seen is that Luffy chose to eat the devil fruit; It's not like the fruit entered in Luffy's mouth on its own.

So if Oda confirms it's true that the devil fruits choose who will eat them, then Oda will be establishing as a premise that at least the devil fruit users, and possibly the people who interact with them until they eat the devil fruit, are basically pawns whose thoughts and actions are at least influenced, if not totally determined, according to the will of the devil fruits so that they just stay on track to eat the devil fruits.

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no i think its wrong, "the mind of its own" quote has more something to do with it's difficulty to achive always getting away in the hands of the marines.

i don't think the gorosei really confirm that it has a mind, cause they are more referring to the elusiveness of the fruit, quote like it has a mind of its own.

also luffy didn't really choose to eat gomu gomu, he didnt even know it was a DF, he really didn't have a choice but accept it, he almost cry when he leaned he will never be able to swim.

 

[vikas]

shanks didn't know that ace was roger's son back then , and when ace visited shanks he didn't tell him he was roger's son shanks figured that out by himself (ace novel)

and also shanks didn't know that garp was luffy's grandfather

That snitch knows everything

Everyone in the village knew Luffy was Garp's grandson....and you expect the snitches crew(who has a highest IQ guy apparentl ) didn't

 

[Pantheos]

Why cant kids talk like normal people... "luffy cockblock shanks"...

But yeah, probably the fruit was meant for Ace.